u/Horseface4190

There is an ongoing scandal at my place of employment. Essentially, two supervisors had affairs with a married subordinate. One of the spouses found out, and contacted the "CEO" (I don't want to doxx myself or employer, so I'll be a bit vague). The second affair was discovered in the investigation.

The subordinate in this case is married to an employee of the same organization.

So far, the fallout has been the subordinate was allowed to resign in lieu of termination. The unofficial line is that they were not honest in the investigation, and was let go for that. The supervisors have been put on two and three months unpaid leave as punishment. The senior of the two was denied an upcoming promotion and will not be considered in the future. The junior supervisor just got the two months unpaid.

I just want to know from actual HR pros, is there anywhere on Earth where sleeping with a married subordinate (I cannot emphasize enough that the two supervisors were this employees direct supervisors at the time of their affairs) does not end in termination? How much legal exposure does that leave the organization in?

This whole thing seems absolutely bonkers to me, but I am hoping to hear from professionals.

Thanks in advance!

I got in an online argu-, er, discussion about DO/Engineers wearing their bunker gear while driving, specifically to a fire.

The scenario was basically that the driver was at the panel in shorts and t-shirt, when a rescue was needed. So he threw a ladder and got some victims out.

Among the many points we argued, er, discussed, one was whether a driver should bunk out for a fire.

For reference, I am a 25 year guy, company officer, 17 stations, 60k calls annually, ALS transport, 3 on engines, four in tower/rescue.

It is pretty much expected that the drivers here are wearing appropriate PPE for the call dispatched. It seems that is not the case everywhere, and I'd appreciate some feedback

*Edit: I really appreciate everyones comments so far. Honestly, I was an am, taken aback at the idea of not bunking out before leaving. That being a policy seems bonkers, but departments are different.

My personal attitude is everyone headed to the fire ground should be bunked out and packed up, ready for interior work. If my driver is really just gonna pump, by all means, bunk down. I just think that theres always the possibility you're gonna have a surprise, engine guys are gonna search or rescue, truck guys may pull lines, because that's what the situation called for at that time. Literally, ready for anything. But solid points were raised pro and con. Thanks again, everyone!