Image 1 — Between them, who was the better strategist and leader.
Image 2 — Between them, who was the better strategist and leader.

Between them, who was the better strategist and leader.

According to Isayama, Zeke and hange are the smartest characters in the anime. Both of them have a high intelligence of 11/10 and both of them are in leadership positions post time skip: Hange being the Commander of the scouts and Zeke being the war chief of the warrior unit.

Which of them do you think is better than the other in terms of planning, leadership, and making and executing plans and just an overall better tactician and strategist most importantly why?

u/HotHawk8517 — 12 days ago

What do you think about their relationship?

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Did zeke know that she was from marley and wanted to be a part of history or did he belive that she was a solider from a captured country.
I found it shocking that zeke decided to trust yelena so much , even telling her the eunthanisa plan. Considering he never really trusts or opens up to anyone. I mean all of his plans: the wine plan, advancing paradise, introducing Kiyomi, persuading Eren, every plan of Zeke was caried about by Yelena.

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u/HotHawk8517 — 1 month ago

I have some doubts....

I understand that Marley and some of the higher people in the Marleyan government knew about the vow renouncing war, so my question is that

1- How much did RBAM know. Did they know that the king wont attack back. If yes, why did they break the wall to see his reaction when they knew the king wouldn't fight back and accept defeat. Wouldn't it be better for them if they secretly stuck in and stole the founding titan. Why Attack wall maria in the first place.

2- IF Marley knew that the king's threat was a bluff, why didn't they just attack paradise using full force and have the founder, they knew they wouldn't fight back. Why send 4 warriors in secret?

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u/HotHawk8517 — 1 month ago

What would Erwin have done in the situation? Discussion

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We all saw in Season 4 that Hange was a decent commander, but she made some mistakes that ended up costing Paradis a lot. I've been thinking how Erwin would have handled those situations instead.

like the Volunteers. I always felt like Paradis trusted them way too much, especially Yelena. They were given a lot of freedom, and that eventually led to Zeke's spinal fluid being spread through the wine. Honestly, why would you trust food coming from people you just met. I think this was Hanges biggest mistake. She should have kept them on tight control.

Then there's the Azumabito. I don't really blame them for wanting Paradis' resources, any country would want something in return for helping. But they were extremely selfish as well, not wanting paradise to have diplomacy wth other countries, so they could be having the majority share in the iceburst stone.

On the other hand, its not really hanges fault as well. Zeke was extremely smart, and made sure to only give paradise limited information, so they wouldn't find solutions outside his plan. There hands were tied and they couldnt do much.

Would Zeke's spinal fluid plan have worked under Erwin's command? Would Erwin have trusted Zeke at all, or would he have assumed he was planning something from the start?

What do you think erwin would have done in this situation I think he would
have acted quicker and help the middle allainces destroy marley this would have been the starting step of diplomacy while keeping the rumbling as threat and iceburst stone for trade for other technologies. He was always able to come up with out of the box solutions even when connered.

Erwin was hell smart and they had to kill him for the plot to move forward of. Otherwise, good luck to zeke, yelena and kiyomi with playing 8D chess with him.

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u/HotHawk8517 — 2 months ago

What would Erwin have done in the situation?

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We all saw in Season 4 that Hange was a decent commander, but she made some mistakes that ended up costing Paradis a lot. I've been thinking how Erwin would have handled those situations instead.

like the Volunteers. I always felt like Paradis trusted them way too much, especially Yelena. They were given a lot of freedom, and that eventually led to Zeke's spinal fluid being spread through the wine. Honestly, why would you trust food coming from people you just met. I think this was Hanges biggest mistake. She should have kept them on tight control.

Then there's the Azumabito. I don't really blame them for wanting Paradis' resources, any country would want something in return for helping. But they were extremely selfish as well, not wanting paradise to have diplomacy wth other countries, so they could be having the majority share in the iceburst stone.

On the other hand, its not really hanges fault as well. Zeke was extremely smart, and made sure to only give paradise limited information, so they wouldn't find solutions outside his plan. There hands were tied and they couldnt do much.

Would Zeke's spinal fluid plan have worked under Erwin's command? Would Erwin have trusted Zeke at all, or would he have assumed he was planning something from the start?

What do you think erwin would have done in this situation I think he would
have acted quicker and help the middle allainces destroy marley this would have been the starting step of diplomacy while keeping the rumbling as threat and iceburst stone for trade for other technologies. He was always able to come up with out of the box solutions even when connered.

Erwin was hell smart and they had to kill him for the plot to move forward of. Otherwise, good luck to zeke, yelena and kiyomi with playing 8D chess with him.

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u/HotHawk8517 — 2 months ago

Warriors

Which warrior do you think was the strongest and most beneficial to Marley.
Whom do you think was the most loyal and was the most brainwashed.
How did marley assign the titans, what was considered for each titan.

u/HotHawk8517 — 3 months ago

The hypocrisy of Pieck.

I have seen people hate on annie, zeke, reiner, berthold and porco and the hate is justified. Especially for zeke and annie as they had no remorse while killing the survey corps. But people tend to forget that pieck isnt inoocent as well, and people dont talk about it much.

Unlike the other warrors, pieck was able to deduce that the eldian warriors are just replaceable to marley and no matter how much they fight for them, they will be disposable and will be condiered devils. She was extremely smart and was not able to fall into the propaganda. Despite knowing the eldians in paradise were clueless and not the devils marley claim, she helped marley destroy them.
From helping turning innconet ppl into titans in ragako, to help zeke kill the survey corps, she had a hand in everything. Now i know ppl mighr say that she had no choice or she was doing it for her father, but if you look closely she had no remorse for her actions.

Even though she knows marley is a racist piece of shit, she fights whole heartedly for them like she genuinally wants them to win. When talking to eren, its clear that even though she knows the truth, she wants to fight for marley, even if her family weren't allowed. And the audacity to say "this is too much" when her dad turned into a titan during the final battle. Oh so now you know what connie might feel seeing his mother into a titan, how the innocnet people in ragako might feel. Its too much my ass. Like the girl knows the whole truth but still goes like "I dont care". In my opinion, if people are going to hate annie, then the hate must be there for pieck as well. The only reason she gets a pass is bcz she didnt kill any main character that we were attached to and because she is pretty.

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u/HotHawk8517 — 3 months ago

The hypocrisy of Pieck.

I have seen people hate on annie, zeke, reiner, berthold and porco and the hate is justified. Especially for zeke and annie as they had no remorse while killing the survey corps. But people tend to forget that pieck isnt innocent as well, and people dont talk about it much.

Unlike the other warriors, pieck was able to deduce that the eldian warriors are just replaceable to marley and no matter how much they fight for them, they will be disposable and will be considered devils. She was extremely smart and was not able to fall into the propaganda. Despite knowing the eldians in paradise were clueless and not the devils marley claim, she helped marley destroy them.
From helping turning innocent ppl into titans in ragako, to help zeke kill the survey corps, she had a hand in everything. Now i know ppl might say that she had no choice or she was doing it for her father, but if you look closely she had no remorse for her actions.

Even though she knows marley is a racist piece of shit, she fights whole heartedly for them like she genuinally wants them to win. When talking to eren, its clear that even though she knows the truth, she wants to fight for marley, even if her family weren't allowed. And the audacity to say "this is too much" when her dad turned into a titan during the final battle. Oh so now you know what connie might feel seeing his mother into a titan, how the innocnet people in ragako might feel. Its too much my ass. Like the girl knows the whole truth but still goes like "I dont care". In my opinion, if people are going to hate annie, then the hate must be there for pieck as well. The only reason she gets a pass is bcz she didnt kill any main character that we were attached to and because she is pretty.

u/HotHawk8517 — 3 months ago

What would have happened if?

What would have happened if Marley found out about Zeke's Royal blood. Would he be punished for hiding it. Also, if i remember correctly, Marley didnt know that royal blood is needed to use the founding titan. So, what did Marley know about the Royal bloodline.

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u/HotHawk8517 — 3 months ago

What would happen if?

What would have happened if Marley found out about Zeke's Royal blood. Would he be punished for hiding it. Also, if i remember correctly, Marley didnt know that royal blood is needed to use the founding titan. So, what did Marley know about the Royal bloodline.

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u/HotHawk8517 — 3 months ago