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What are your opinions when you saw Armin acting different and indecisive ?

Well in the first season I kind of admired him that he is a genius but after season 3 he completely changed and I am really shocked at

I never saw those moments where Armin is being romantic

How he is talking to Annie using poor Bertholdt's memory

Even simping around her and that felt inconsistent

And that felt completely unfair and also somehow I found that eren was right

That Armin changed after eating Bertholdt

And also in the ending you must have noticed that he was ignoring Annie.

Was Armin really using Bertholdt's memory to reach to Annie or It was real feeling

If it was real feeling that why we can't get any earlier glimpse

Okay as a evidence we take that season 1

Of female titan removing cloak of Armin but later on ,

We didn't see that much

What do you think?

Share me your thoughts.

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u/Character-Rope144 — 8 hours ago

What was your headcanon theories about the orgin of the titans before the discovery of Grishas journal and the truth of the past?

With how all over the place the plot and all of its epic twists and turning points i honstley had no clue what to even thing. So what were u thinking that could've possibly made sense?

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u/H00psz44 — 7 hours ago

This might be somewhat of a controversial take here but i think both of the aot endings could have worked perfectly and had almost no controversy while still delivering the original message if only one thing was changed

Before you drop a comment attacking me im not here to hate on your opinion of attack on titan,i believe its a great story but that there was only one singular mistake that made it worse in my opinion,i would love to hear your opinion on what i wrote down below

Most of the controversy behind the aot endings (beyond the shipping wars which i dont care about ) were due to one single problem,and that is that both endings(chapter 139.5 and the aftercredit scene for the last episode of aot) in their own way enforced the idea that the rumbling was the right thing to do in some peoples eyes,and that perspective came from this:

In the original manga ending chapter 139.5 confirmed that only about 30 years later the entirety of eldia got bombed(as seen by b2 bombers being used)-pointing to the fact that due to eren failing to complete the rumbling resulted in eldia being wiped out

The anime did a different thing but instead what it did is exactly what eren wanted-hundreds if not a thousand years of peace for the eldian people(and if hypothethically some eldians moved to the areas that got rumbled and diversified then maybe also saved the eldian race)

The biggest problem with both of these is that realistically the entire story could have avoided the whole controversy and still delivered the mssage with only one change-instead of the whole world hating eldia it was mostly just marley,and heres why i think that:

Marley was already the dominant world superpower and controlled 30 percent of the land mass so the situation was just as dire and the justification behind zekes plan still existed,the rest of the world already werent going to help eldia because why help one small island nation against the dominant superpower,both of the endings would have still functioned with almost no text change needed for either, in the manga one no shit you got bombed 30 years later you wiped out hundreds of millions and now you dont have the weapons you used to,and the anime ending would just hammer the cycle of violence even more because sure you eliminated the enemy but humans will always keep fighting you only delayed it some time,the manga ending would work better here for the message but both still work contextually

Realistically the biggest problem of the whole manga were not the endings in my mind but just the singular fact of making it eldia against the world instead of eldia versus a giant superpower,one encourages the idea that if the world hates you you should wipe out the world,while the other says that no matter how much violence you commit to win you will never break the cycle which is the message that was originaly intented.

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u/kingoflaught — 5 hours ago

Something about Ymir Fritz I noticed (comparing her to my favorite anime character)

🖲Something I noticed about the Founder Ymir Fritz was that she's similar to Zeref in that two parts of their world make propaganda based on them.

□ Marley depicted Ymir as a tool of the Devil, being purely a malevolent and power-hungry figure, the ultimate source of evil in the world.

□ Eldia described Ymir as a perfect Goddess figure, a divine, mythical savior who brought unprecedented prosperity to their empire.

■ However, the truth about Ymir is that she's a helpless, enslaved refugee who stumbled upon the "source of all living matter"—an otherworldly, primordial parasite—that fused with her spine and gave her the Founding Titan’s power. Even after gaining this power, Ymir did not use it to obtain her freedom; because her youth was spent in subjugation, she lacked the concept of free will. She blindly returned to King Fritz, using her Titans to build bridges, cultivate land, and commit mass genocide against Eldia's enemies to appease him.

Ymir bore the King's children. When an assassin targeted the King, she willingly sacrificed her own life just to save him, despite how he mistreated her. After Ymir's death, her tragic obedience persisted. Her consciousness was banished to a barren, metaphysical dimension called the Paths. For 2,000 years, she was forced to blindly build colossal and pure Titans out of sand for the Eldian royal family.

🖲With Fairy Tail's immortal black wizard Zeref Dragneel, his cursed fate led to different interpretations of his personality from the perspectives of Ishgar and Alakatasia, though the propaganda stemmed from the actions sinners, who claim to follow and worship him.

□ Ishgar viewed Zeref as the most evil mage who ever existed in the magic world, assuming the attacks of his demons were all his doing and that his followers were only committing atrocities under his will, with implications that some even tried hiding and justifying their actions by using Zeref to make themselves look like victims.

□ Alakitasia viewed Zeref as a morally gray, but loving and noble emperor who made the people of the Alvarez Empire find their lives meaningful and not to mention stable. The people adore Zeref for how he made the Alvarez Empire what it is.

■ The truth about Zeref is that he never actually wanted any of this to happen. He was a purehearted, kindhearted boy who was cursed many years after the death of his family (when he spent years wondering the complex meaning of life and death, and if there was a safe way to save Natsu's life without angering Ankhseram), and the curse made gave him immortality and near godlike Black magic that is triggered by how much he values life. While he did create the demons that ended up attacking humanity, he revealed that the flashbacks were only seen from the perspectives of sinners and that they never depicted his true life experiences. Sinners claim that the demon attacks were the motivation for their actions, but Zeref heavily implied that the basis that actually drove them into tarnishing his name was the Books of Zeref and the R-System (which were both for his personal research and suicide plan). It was even mentioned how they used the Books of Zeref to create fake stories while abusing magic for their own twisted reasons.

As for the Alvarez Empire, it was something he accidentally created when the curse took control of his mind and made him accidentally subjugate more than 700 guilds, and when he realized what he unwillingly did while his thoughts were contradicting, he only became more horrified what further harm he can do when his mind breaks completely from the curse's effects. His reputation on Alakitasia came from the fact that Zeref treated managing the empire like a civilization game where you build your ideal civilization to keep it prosperous and stable. Nevertheless, Zeref eventually found a purpose to use the empire after learning of the existence of Fairy Heart, which he'll do in case his plan to die by the hands of Natsu fails.

u/True-Temperature138 — 8 hours ago

Three things i want in the third Aot game

1: if they can bring back the warriors story from "the final battle" edition. But this time, do it the same as last time but through season 4 like I imagine playing as Reiner during the mideast war destroying anti titan artillery or as Porco during the war for paradis. It would be fun to once again play as the warriors. Or maybe even play as Reiner, Porco, Pieck or Zeke during the four years of the mid east war. Maube if they will, we could even play as their titans during that flashback scene after the warriors get their titans, they are at war with a nation in the south. And this one is a bit of a reach, bit imagine playing as a Marleyan soldier during the events of season four, like the battle of fort slava, raid of liberio, war for paradis and ending with the last stand against the rumbling approaching Marley where our Marleyan character eventually gets trampled.

2: a choice between after the rumbling starts to decide whether you stand with the alliance and keep playing the main canon story or side with the yeagerists, it obviously wouldn't be a very long thing. It would probably just be our MC fighting AGAINST the alliance at the port instead of with them. I could honestly see this being a separate mission after the main story is done so it unlocks a secret ending where you defeated the alliance, the rumbling wipes out the whole world and we get a ending of paradis prospering for a few years before a second great titan war begins on the island.

3: a few what if missions. This is what I want to see the most. This one falls more or less also in line with the second point I presented like what if the yeagerists won. Or playing as the warriors during the return to shinganshina and what if they actually captured eren or what if levi squad survived, or where you manage to kill zeke during season 3 or 4, anything really. Mostly these what ifs I want are related to season 4 but anything can work.

Once again these are just personally things I would like in the game but are most likely not to happen.

u/Rich_Ad_3808 — 14 hours ago

Does anyone else not like this guy?

Just a rant I guess.

Does anyone else hate, or at least find Porco Galliard really annoying? Yeah, I know there are other characters that are worse/ more annoying, but Porco just rubs me the wrong way.

He reminds me of that insecure, bitter high school bully with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove. And it felt like Pieck was babysitting him all the time, handling him with kid gloves,, constantly trying to rein him in, correcting him and so on.

Even as he died, he was still an asshole. His sacrifice wasnt even admirable, as even then it was done more as a fuck you to Reiner and to show him up.

Also I hate his name , which literally means Pig.

His titan was cool looking though.

u/No-Passenger3327 — 24 hours ago

2021 inspired sparkly edits + requests

I really appreciate the love y'all have given these edits so far :) They're super fun to make.

Historia and Reiner were also requested and I'll be including them in the next batch!

u/TheRiverTybur — 20 hours ago

Please Tell Me Someone Else Made this Joke When the Episode Aired

Convincing my non-anime watching friend to watch AOT by explaining there was a Breaking Bad style “I watched Jane die” moment and I couldn’t get this out of my head.

We’re currently on season 4, so I needed to prepare accordingly.

u/RollingScone93 — 23 hours ago

I don't know but why Bertholdt is the most ignored character?

Everyone loves to talk about Armin and Erwin surviving by the plot armour but

why Bertholdt must be the scape goat ?

Instead, can we talk about Reiner and Bertholdt

Who felt more realistic than Eren and Armin

I am sharing my opinion

Eren's pathetic freedom caused me unease

Armin's fantasy for peace is also another disgusting thing

I hate both characters but love Reiner and Bertholdt a lot

They felt too realistic and I am thinking if I ever get the power of drawing or creating something then

I should create an ova dedicated to Reiner and Bertholdt

Named "Misunderstood boys"

In which their whole story must be there

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u/Character-Rope144 — 20 hours ago

I am rewatching the show and realized why some people may have felt the last season was lackluster compared to the beginning

Spoiler alert!

If you rewatch the show, you notice how Isayma never shied away from jumping right into action and revealing secrets. He always gave us a taste of what is going on, but never the full picture so we kept on guessing. "Who else can transform into a titan? What sort of civilization exists outside the wall? Why do they want to kill those inside it?" and so on.

Virtually all characters felt part of the story which made it all feel so alive, but toward the ending we had a big shift where the likes of Erwin died and slowly the focus of the show began to shift heavily on Eren. At first he was part of the story and its mystery, but by taking away the proactive characters and making Eren the centerpiece of the show came at a price when he kissed Historia's hand.

He saw the future and his character completely changed. His actions and thinking changed, so now for an entire season the show solely focused on Eren's actions which were cryptic and made little sense to us, the audience, because he became the aggressor.

Compared to the first three seasons, you truly understood Eren's pain. His mother's death, the betrayal of Annie, Reiner and Belbulbu, the death of his comrades. You understood why he reached the point of becoming a monster, but then we spent an entire season watching him act without having an emotional bond with him or his actions. Suddenly he is in Marley starting a war, then betraying Paradis, then teaming up with Zeke to start the rumbling and committing genocide.

All these actions felt very foreign and alienated many viewers, myself included now that I have figured out why the last season felt off to me. So when we saw Eren's and Armin's speech toward the end, it was difficult to rebuild that emotional connection with Eren's character all of the sudden because as viewers it was difficult to see his point of view, compared to the beginning.

In my opinion, he had all the right to become a monster, but suddenly he learns the truths of the world and becomes sort of mellow and cryptic, deciding genocide was the only option but not just out of vengeance, but out of reason, something I feel that took away from his character. He should have just killed everyone out of his trauma. Yet, we kept getting reasons like making his friends into heroes or saving Paradis, all whilst still making us think he was unstable, which he was.

What do you think?

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u/Mayion — 1 day ago

Shinzou wo Sasageyo'ed in the Valley

Just sharing my screenshot of my favourite trio living peacefully in Stardew Valley 😊

Thankyou LittlePippi for this mod 🥰

u/lestrange427 — 23 hours ago

If eren wasn’t the main character, who would it be?

I’m probably gonna go off the topic while saying this, but I definitely think it could be Reiner.

If aot had the starting seasons showing Marley from his POV with the whole show centered around him, it would completely flip the narrative dynamic, but it would still be the best anime. Even Isayama himself said he has toyed with that concept.

Reiner would make an amazing main character because his story is SO tragic and messy. If the show started from his perspective, we'd see a brainwashed kid from Marley who breaks the walls out of duty, only to realize the "devils" inside are just normal, innocent people. The guilt quite literally splits his mind in two, making him toggle between a ruthless soldier and a protective big brother to the scouts. While Eren's story is about a victim becoming a villain, Reiner’s would be this intense psychological drama about a guy who did terrible things, completely broke down from the guilt, and is just desperately trying to find a way to redeem himself and protect the kids depending on him.

Focusing on him also completely changes how we see Gabi and Falco. Instead of them just being annoying or sympathetic enemies, they become Reiner's whole world. He views Gabi as a terrifying mirror of his younger, brainwashed self, and he's utterly desperate to save her from inheriting his Titan and his miserable fate. Falco becomes the under dog Reiner tries to mentor to protect Gabi, turning the final arcs into a deeply personal rescue mission. The whole story shifts from a war about freedom to a broken man trying to stop the next generation from repeating his horrific mistakes.

Holy yap but I felt the urge to come on here and give my opinion, what do you all think?

u/chowonq — 2 days ago

THE FUTURE WAS NEVER FIXED

Theory, everything that eren told armin about the future not being able to be changed was just hes delusion, because he wanted that exact same future and made up a point that minimized the guilt of his actions. He was just a monster who went completely mad at 19, but heres the paradox, this all resulted in the same things eren saw after kissing historia so technically the future still remains unchangeable.

i meant that the future is fixed, but it is fixed because not that the choices will occur whatever eren does, but because he will always choose the same things to do since he is a heartless bastard. I mean the future IS changeable, but this specific part of the future is fixed because erens choices are fixed. Eren had free will, but because of who he fundamentally was, he would always freely make the same choices, and therefore this future becomes fixed.

Imo eren IS heartless, because hes just a teen who doesnt know nothing, and thats why he chooses HIS freedom. you see, as he said to armin, the friends sacrifice was also just a coping mechanism. Hes coping mechanism is just like walter whites, and i cant imagine how unhinged eren was at that time, like i will straight up crap my pants if asked to become his roommate.

Anyways, but in the midst of all that madness, he still confessed his love, and that part was actually true(gotta confirm this). But wait, he wasnt just unhinged when he turned 19 he was shaped into a monster from the very start. Even though he claims he was just "born this way," that's just a crazy delusion he tells Armin to dodge the blame. The brutal reality is that living caged inside the walls, dealing with constant trauma, and witnessing absolute violence are the exact things that made him someone who wanted FREEDOM. Claiming he was born a monster is just his final coping mechanism to avoid facing what his environment actually turned him into. Man, hes case is something else, because as i said, eren was made a narcissist by everything around him. He wasnt BORN a monster, claiming that was just his final coping mechanism.

I wished ereh kept that beard, it just suits him!