u/Icy_Rip2501

The clone can actively give your opps burst if they prioritise attacking it, it as 40 (aka zero cause it dies to a fart) hp and cant even have hp increases with downslam finisher like before. its only semi decent when theres 4-8 but your telling me i need to get 2-3 FULL Bars (more difficult then mechamaru or any superult requirement btw) while keeping the other clones alive the entire time (impossible challenge) to make it DECENTLY POWERFUL FOR A ULT? still gets one taped by any move with decent damage btw. it wasnt even broken on launch it was just kurou himself that was making it seem like they were because his dps was so high, so doubling it or quadrupling it made it crazy. But now after the nerfs, the clones would be fine to be as strong as they were since there dps have been toned down alongside kurous.

Tornado is the best but is still ass. it pulls in and deals like 50 dm at best (not including regen) with the worst pull and radius imaginable. it dont even set up for something like maybe a combo or anything its just a pathetic amount of damage and barely even helps kurou against most ults since it needs set up to land consistently( either waste evasive or hook them with 2 ) since its radius to pull in is terrible. locust and mei mei gets a free kill for the same effort btw, charles gets most of his ult back for the same damage or he kills them to.

Domain invasion is just ass theres no reason to use it. Cancelled in half a second by a stray to lose your entire ult on TRYING to break a domain (if it fails hes just dead) without any compensation for being interrupted or even succeeding. i mean like, i broke sukunas domain, cool now im gonna get dogwalked. Wait nvm, he interrupted it = now i get dog walked in his domain saving nobody and accomplishing nothing but losing my ult and giving a free 5 bucks. All its got is aura but you need a bit more then that.

No im not tryna say to rush them or som. But i think we kinda deserve to know what is holding up the update. like we dont even got the roblox event telling us the date yet ( they usually do it a week in advance).

I mean are they cooking hard with hanamis ult or is tze busy? idk does he have exams or som. Tze finished ryu in a week he said so unless hes making hanami the coolest designed ult in the game then there as to be something up.

Are we getting like another full base only release? since hanami is "tzes character" according to zeezy what are the others working on?

Also who we thinking is next ea?

i made a post (got deleted) basically saying that reworks of these were dumb. But i do see that i might have been a bit aggressive, so i want to know why you want them reworked? these seem to have been the most requested reworks but you can mention others if you want. just kinda a discussion on who we want reworked and such.

For those who want to defend these character, well you can discusses it with those who wanna see reworks. Personally i think most characters only need a variant at most and they would be fine.

Remember if you want your rework to actually be viable to any dev looking here it prob needs these:

- relates to the fighting style the character themselfs employ (no passive yuji for example he was always a rushdown kinda fighter)

- there move either have to be taken from actual source or something they can actually pull of in source. aswell as the less reworked moves the better since it would be less work for the devs.

- dont try to make them an everything character, make them something that as clear shortcomings and strenghts, the more gimmicky the better.

btw im not a dev or anything so unless one is reading nothing would happen.

This isn't a post to rush the devs or nothing, but ever since a few updates ago we have been getting countdowns for the next update which is honestly an amazing upgrade on communication so great jobs devs. But its been a decent bit since the last update and we have gotten like, no news or one of those countdowns. Even just like a message or something about if we should expect it this or next week would be great. I just think mentioning the range of expectation for the update date would make alot of people happy.

Also a little bit off topic but devs, people would love smaller updates that introduce 1-2 moves consistently over huge updates every while. I mean since you guys have built a great foundation and your big updates arent super long jjs wont die out whatsoever. I do however understand this case specifically because realistically you need to release hanami ult in a almost complete or in a complete state because of how long shes been left to rot. maybe even a slight rework to her base is being implemented so she can fit the vision tze had for her better.

Alr so i know he can be actually for much longer then a regular ult, but if you want to even use the moves then he ends up lasting so much shorter which is horseshit, especially for a super ult that needs 50% more bar charged then other ults. The rest is in the comments.

How do you guys think he should be improved? nerfs? buffs? go crazy with ideas cause the Big maru needs them.

I saw a video, i link it below.

But in said video it showed zeezy saying that mechamaru needs serious attention. he then said that there was an entire convo he wasnt going to show about it. i would just like to know what the convo said about mechamaru?

As a mechamaru fan i think this is a good idea, especially because right now while his base is good its nothing special or interesting in the way other characters have been, nothing that feels like a Puppet Master other then like R+R and R+3 (both are his worst moves). Its not bad but its just wasted potential of mechamaru at the moment.

And dont get me started on how unfun his ult is. Idc if its "op" its an M1 merchant with a size advantage, the only move thats even worth using is miracle cannon which is lame af for a mech.

Like if you look at the move itself ( air variant of 4), it as no "defense" capability's and is barely a response since you just move back a bit while throwing out surging thorns (no pun intended) from the ground. It serves as a combo extender/ neutral tool not so much a get off me tool like its base variant.

Meanwhile it would fit surging thorns a lot more, one being the better combo option while the other would be the neutral option. Aswell as encouraging player to actually use the 4th move base form more, which is significantly weaker then the air variant.

and if they choose to use the 2 move in neutral and it pays off, your opponent wont need to deal with the 2 combo extender making the combo far quicker but giving more flexibility in general to the users style. aswell as always keeping your back up option defense response as a potential get out of jail free card like its supposed to be.

I understand what the devs went for, making his base kit be the semi-grade 1 mechamaru and then having the super ult mech (Pigeon viola is so ass please buff its explosion radius or som to make it not lame and useless, the 4th and 3rd moves too and nerf the m1s to compensate).

But then we have his R special, which is stuff he never did with semi-grade 1 mechamaru. If were gonna have him summon etc why not commit? I feel like him being stuck as rushdown slop with som neutrals is hella wasted potential.

We already have seen with kuroushi ult that they can make the clones not trigger burst ( its only the user himself that can). Why cant they do something similar with mechamaru? obviously the clones will be alot weaker (unless maybe you can make a super strong one by combining or som shit).

I genuinely think that he can be the most unique character. him being weak up close with maybe 1 or two get off me tools and 2 poke tools in exchange for being able to send a horde.

Even just giving him the ability to make transfigured human like npcs (robots instead) with a catch or some and nerfing his base in exchange would be great. Hes just wasted potential rn as the LITERAL PUPPET MASTER.

GIVE THE MECH A BUTTON TO ROAR AGAIN LIKE IN HIS STARTUP, PLEASE TZE WE NEED THIS.

Alr so firstly, tze already mentioned he planned to make her an install character. I think that off rip thats the best idea for her.

Now how would this work? simple, make her the opposite of mechamaru in terms of ult. She only needs to gain 50% ult instead of 100%, like other characters. Now here me out on how this can work.

So obviously her base will need a nerf, she shouldn't be able to downslam it doesnt do anything for her kit aswell as that the uppercut being 360% blockable and slower to come out (but with a short duration for stunning the opponents so it cant be comboed into and not much endlag making it more of a poke tool for zoning) the aerial variant of 4 needs tweaks. the 3rd move honestly needs a full rework its just kinda not it, the reduced evasive is no fun for either side.

But most importantly, her block radius should be half ( sort of like how after hitting somebody with nanamis 1 + ratio cuts one arm to halve your block). This makes sense since shes legit using one arm. Finally, make her wall jumps and running slower (shes heavy after all)

In exchange, the 4th move ground variant should get a buff to be a better "get off me" tool ( not comboable tho) and her dash should have a variant when aimed at people in the air ( like naoya 3) to be able to hit aerial targets at a great distance but have a slightly longer wind up (for runners, and people who just wall jump a ton). This, aswell as increasing her hp higher then normal (105-110).

I think she should stick to being a true zoner tank, but with the caviate being shes kinda shit at close range with only one option to realistically help ( sort of like how ryu can use 1 before it overheats to do the quick version). And since her movement is slow she cant run really at all, but with the new dash she can still catch a runner lacking.

Honestly i dont have much for the third move except it being maybe a rip off bleedout, where if your opponent uses cursed energy it damages them.

Now for the Ult, It should be a hugely buffed version of the base. Root swarm being much larger and stronger, the second move aswell with crazier effects. The third one being the giant seeds she sent at todo and and the 4th being a strong new version of the aerial variant. With her special revolving around the flower field still except it being much larger in radius. In her ult she will lose som of her weaknesses, but i think that she should be on the skilled side like nanami ult ( however weaker).

Her duration will be short (the instalment boost) however she will have a second bar (like mechamaru) to reach full Ult. Where her moves will actually be ULT level. Like crazy aoe and etc. And her 4th move will be replaced with domain and her R special being the energy absorbion into laser beam.

PLEASE NOBODY USES HIM, Give the mech som fun stuff to do. Make his Pigeon Viola usefull, Make his burst consistent, Give him the middle finger stab, Give him his aura appearance when locked in. I have no mechamaru brothers that use the ultimate. when i do i win with just m1s sicne theres no reason to do anything else ( besides 1 or style points).

Alr so mechamaru is one of the rarest mains in the game (im part of the almost extinct species) and with more and more characters being added it will keep going that way. But why?

Simple, its not the base. Its the goddamn mech. It follows the locust guy pattern of " I side dash, therefore I m1"(DarkOtis, one of his vids). WHICH IS FUCKING LAME AS SHIT FOR A 15M TITAN SIZED MECH. Not to mention it isnt even fun to fight against because of this since its stun lock central.

Its not even that good too, one of the most conditional ults in the game that can get stunned locked infinitely if there is more then 1 dude fighting you, and if there's only 1 dude they're just fucked. SO ITS ALWAYS ONE SIDED FIGHTS, which btw you wont use your moves cause other then miracle cannon (I supposed absolute destruction is decent, the aerial variant that is).

anyway we understand the problem, now we need solutions. if you look at what i posted i have done a mechamaru suggestion that i will put in the comments if you care to read. with new adjustements (buffs and nerfs and good reworks). PLZ SOMEBODY TELL TZE, MECHAMARU IS A GOOD INVESTEMENT I PROMISE IT WILL BE HYPE AND AURA.

Also if somebody wanted to upload this as a discord suggestion (idk how to get it all working i tried) then go right ahead i dont need credit, i want changes made.