u/IdeasRichTimePoor

Bone loss after 10 years of NHS orthodontics treatment

I entered NHS Wales orthodontics care at the age of 19 due to a class 3 skeletal underbite. At the time I was told this would be a 3 year process of braces to terminate in jaw surgery. This ended up dragging on a full 10 years. In the last few years I was informed that I had tooth root resorption and alveolar bone loss, but that it was caused by a dental hygiene issue. The treatment continued and as of now I still have braces for post-op tweaks.

I feel so gaslit with the number of times I was told I was nearly done, and that I should just improve my dental hygiene, which I put so much effort into.

It's only recently now after reading, that I figured out these issues were almost a certainty with the practically-unheard-of length of my treatment.

I'm aware that there is a 3 year liability limit for such cases in the UK, but how might my case interact with this being that the same care that caused the damage continued after I was informed of my condition? As far as I am concerned, fault was never explicitly admitted.

I am unsure if there is even a record of this information beyond the casual mention in the orthodontics office verbally.

On top of potential future tooth loss I have had many years of undue psychological stress. My relationship with food has been dictated by my braces for 10 years. I must have also taken 100s of hours away from work to attend appointments.

I complained to PALs 2 years ago simply for the delay in getting my surgery and their official explanation was a staffing issue for orthodontic consultants.

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u/IdeasRichTimePoor — 5 days ago

5 Months Post-Surgery Update Class 3 DJS

Leading on from 4 months 4 month update post-op DJS : r/jawsurgery . Further details and before pics included in that post. Sorry for the blurry images; worst thing I ever did to my phone was fit a glass screen protector.

What's been going on in the last month?

* Way less swollen.
* Continuing to lose weight - 80lb down total in the last year or so.
* Mostly resigned to the idea of eventual underchin lipo. I think I spent too long fat with a longer jaw and the fat cells are unlikely to fully go away with weight loss.
* Found out I'm both vit D and iron deficient (work from home + bad diet and blood loss from surgery), so working on both of those.
* Some soft asymmetries are resolving around the nose and mouth.
* Sensation properly coming back to left side chin.
* Sitting at a 3.5mm-4mm overbite. I'm told they aim to over-correct by a small amount with expectation of relapse, but mine has been very stable. I believe that is just inside the normal range.

Two things bothering me right now:
* The longer philtrum. Between the 2mm anterior down-graft and the 7mm advancement I am still adjusting to how it looks.
* Likewise with the less protrusive chin. I'd lived 28 and a bit years with a protruding jaw and it's really messed with me to have it set back and rebalanced. I felt so down for around 2 months because I felt I had been rendered chinless. I feel a lot better about it now, but I'm still adjusting.

I will likely do a 6 month update and then the next at a more final period like 1 year.

u/IdeasRichTimePoor — 11 days ago

Shedding vitamin levels reminder

I've been having a rough time of shedding this year and nothing stopped it, even on my nuclear stack. I've also been feeling down and lethargic, but I'm used to cyclic depression so it didn't feel out of the ordinary.

Every 3 years or so I pay for a general health panel to be done. This year was a surprise. It turns out I've been fighting an uphill battle against vitamin D deficiency and an early non anaemic iron deficiency. Two vitamins crucial to your hair and skin.

I started supplementing high strength vit D and heme iron and my shedding has already halved in 2 weeks.

I don't know who needs to hear it but before expanding your stack, go back to basics and check your bloods. No point applying 4 different products when your body is systemically struggling! This stuff can absolutely exacerbate AGA issues.

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u/IdeasRichTimePoor — 19 days ago

Hi,

4 months post op DJS and I have some persistent congested feeling in my left nostril high up. There's also a very hard to explain intermittent pain that doesn't get worse when I breath. Septum looks pretty straight but the nostril looks a little bigger on the left side making it look just a slight bit crooked. Is this likely to just be an inflamed turbinate and not a new structural issue? Anyone in a similar boat?

Thanks.

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u/IdeasRichTimePoor — 1 month ago