



Super happy with my results. Dr. Roser at Emory and his team operated on me July 2023.
Having bimax surgery to treat sleep apnea, breathing issues, and some post marpe bite craziness. This sub was incredibly helpful while preparing for surgery over the last 4! years, excited to share my surgical/ recovery process with you all now!!
Do cheekbones (zygoma) get lost / left behind comparatively when the maxilla is advanced?
Or
Do the cheekbones look better due to soft tissue being pulled forward by the maxilla advancement?
Hi,
I’m 23 y/o (F) based in the UK (London) considering djs due to long term jaw issues, recession and over bite. I previously had braces in 2016 for 1 year, jaw surgery was mentioned briefly but the orthodontist said braces and bands should help. For the last ten years I had physiotherapy on and off for TMJ and received a mouth guard however this has not helped with anything I have trouble sleeping/ breathing and eating food (constant fatigue and breaks in between bites). I have considered myofunctional therapy but don’t know if it’s worth the money. I think it would be best to look into djs but it’s been said the NHS are strict and often reject cases I don’t know what to do, I feel like I’m constantly getting dismissed by dentist and GP as these problems become worse.
There is 4 months between this images. Do you think I have condyle resorption? Has it gone worse in the span of 4 months?
If you’re in Canada or anywhere else getting double jaw surgery: I had a consultation with a surgeon, and though the hospital and OR are covered by MSP, the surgeon’s fee is $9K, all due before surgery. If you’re a student and your parents aren’t paying, how are you affording this?
Hello! Im officially 6 weeks post op from my double jaw surgery; specifically 3-piece LeFort I osteotomy + bilateral sagittal split osteotomy (BSSO) + genioglossus advancement and wanted to share my thoughts/experience for anyone who is still unsure/looking for a surgeon in Northern California/the Bay.
So a bit of context: After meeting my orthodontist he mentioned to pathways 1) he can fix my bite, with braces but the other features like breathing, recessed chin, would all remain. He mentioned that I was extremely close in my measurements to where he “Could not fix the bite without Surgery”. I think the number was like 0.2 away from needing surgery. Upon hearing that I felt like it was in my best interest to go searching for a surgeon in my area (im from the Central Valley) that was covered by my insurance. It ended up being about 1.5-2hrs away from me:
Dr Adam Fagin from Peninsula Oral and Facial Surgery in San Mateo, California.
He took a full hour for our consult, and any questions I may have had, were answered in his presentation. I was blown away by how much he told me and answered for me that upon leaving I was committed. I went back to my orthodontist, told him I was going to go with surgery with my surgeon. I got on braces, and the communication between my orthodontist and surgeon was fluid.
I had a sleep study done before, and while I didn’t have apnea, signs of it was present, which made me even more certain about surgery.
Fast forward I had my Surgery on July 6th. I personally LOVE how it came out. Friends and Family notice the differences and say it came out very good too.
What blew my mine was the BREATHING IMPROVEMENT.
Upon waking up from the table, I noticed it instantly. And to this day, I notice how badly my airways were blocked. I had no idea the severity until this surgery.
Im a 23year old Male who has been active my whole life, through sports and gym in case someone wants to know. Most of my swelling is down, i’d say I have small spots if any. I think a lot of it is just scar tissues inside still healing. I have essentially full feeling on my entire face, with the only spots a bit unsure being my left half of my lower lip, and parts of my chin, however I feel those nerves are waking up, just way slower than the rest of my face has.
Overall I am blown away by everything. Those of you who want to know about pain; I’d say the first 4 days are the worst. I wouldn’t say it was due to pain, as I kept up with my medication plan 4x a day as he mentioned me to do. I just felt the discomfort and liquid only diet made it hard for my body to sleep at night. The lack of feeling and being all number also sucks! However I would say my pain was minimal.
But here I am. At 6 weeks, with my next semester coming up, about to go back to work and excited to see how the rest of the recovery goes. I’m blessed everything worked out well for me, and if there are ANY questions please don’t hesitate to drop a comment or DM. I didn’t know this reddit existed before I got my surgery, as I found it during my time recovering, but I wish I had been able to ask some questions in here before.
And yes, my first time chewing solid food was taking bits of an In N Out Burger and the soft parts of the fries!
X-Ray was from Orthodontist
Medical Findings were from Orthodontist to begin referring to surgeons.
Left both in case anyone was curious.
I do NOT have the movements. I personally had confidence in my surgeon and didn’t need them.
I’ve always said I have no chin and I’ve always hated my side profile. Now at age 41 I’ve got major jowling going on. Would jaw surgery fix this? If so, how do I get it. A dentist told me recently I have a narrow passageway when she looked in my mouth and suggested a sleep study for sleep apnea. I’ve asked my neurologist twice for a referral (once in person and once in a my chart message) but he hasn’t done it.
Had no idea he was sick until his last 6 weeks. Didn’t know it was cancer until the last day.
He spent a lot of time hanging out on the couch with me. I discovered he LOVED chimken soup (the white bear he’s cutely cuddling with is actually him threatening my childhood lovey in exchange for soup!).
I posted about laying on the ground at the indoor dog pool we took him to bc swimming was his favorite thing in the world. So glad we didn’t have to miss even a week of that for my recovery.
I’m so so grateful to have been able to recover with him by my side. If you’re in the trenches but have a dog or cat best friend getting you through it - give them an extra pat from me today 🫶🏻
Three weeks post op DJS for sleep apnea. And while logically I know the swelling is still present because it has only been 3 weeks, I can’t help but worry that I am too protruded now. My top lip really bothers me and I am looking for reassurance 🥺 please share your experiences! 30YOF
The day finally arrived after what felt like a lifetime of waiting. I did it 🥹
Had SARPE in October 2024 and orthodontics and now the final step. To correct retrognathia. So hard to see any change with the swelling etc. Guessing this is normal?
I didn't look after my mouth as a teen and early 20's but been in a good routine for the last few years, I have quite a lot of fillings and am missing four teeth (plus wisdom teeth that didn't grow in).
I had four lower molars extracted as a child, from what I was told they were growing in sideways so were removed so I wouldn't need braces as I grew- three grew back but one never did.
Jaw crunching is common, rarely locks but I do have EDS so possibility of slow healing or dislocation is always there.
I'd be paying for it totally out of pocket, I could do traditional braces but jaw surgery is something I'd need years to save up for/pay off, plus with my overall mouth health I'm not sure if braces would be an option. No gingivitis, periodontal disease or active decay, just a lot of fillings. I go back to the dentist once or twice a year to get old fillings redone as some are very old.
I just want to feel pretty and not look so glum all the time, because I clench my jaw when I'm busy or stressed I get a lot of comments especially at work. I don't really have much of a jawline and the double chin + chubby face has haunted me my whole life, I think it's part of the reason people assume I'm much younger than I am. Would it be worth it to drop an insane amount of money on my teeth and jaw? I like the way my face looks from the front with my jaw open but despise my side profile and do anything to avoid others taking photos of me
Hey everyone,
I’m currently prepping for upper jaw surgery (Le Fort 1). I got my top braces 2.5 months ago and I’m getting the bottom ones in a few days.
My surgeon estimated the orthodontic prep would take about 12 months, but my ortho gave me a wider safety window of "12 to 18 months".
Here is my issue: I really need to get this surgery done in exactly 11 to 12 months (aiming for May/June next year).
My goal is to lock the surgery right before summer so I can recover and still have my summer to work. I’m fully prepared to be a perfect patient (zero broken brackets, military-grade hygiene, wearing elastics 24/7 if needed) to ensure there are zero delays on my end.
Has anyone here successfully negotiated a specific timeline with their ortho? How did you bring it up to them to make sure they align with your deadline? Any advice on how to communicate this clearly without sounding disrespectful?
Thanks for the feedback!
Went to a an Orthodontist advertised as airway and breathing specialist, was immediately dismissed of airway concerns / UARS, was told that if my sleep apnea test is negative then I don’t have airway issues. I expressed that I experience intermittent and frequent wakening every night, chronic daytime fatigue, brain fog, chronic migraines / headache, snoring, mouth breathing / sore throat, TMJ / jaw ache, sinus and ear pressure issues and was not concerned at all. I also have a small palate, deep bite and recessed jaw. Was only told that my TMJ tension could be improved by fixing my bite with invisalign / braces but MARPE wouldn’t be advised as I don’t have a cross bite. I have had braces in my tween years so my teeth are only slightly crowed. Should I be concerned of airway issues and seek a second Ortho opinion, request CBCT? I’m not a confrontational person so I seem to get dismissed pretty easy. I saw a HNS surgeon for concern of my recessed jaw and TMJ and she just recommended PT….
I also saw someone comment in this subreddit that UARS is more common with ADHD folk, which I do have. I’m also a slender female in my early 20s which i know can make sleep apnea harder to detect.
I had lower jaw surgery yesterday, and surgeon literally did not mention not to rinse the first 24hours. So I’ve been rinsing w mouth wash or salt water every time I eat or after I threw up.
What has yalls experience been like ? Did you wait the first 24hours or no? The first 7 weeks how many times did you salt water wash, perio wash and used toothbrush? Thanks.
I know that the Pog shows the distance that your chin point will be advanced but I can't seem to figure out which of the anterior movements on the surgical plan illustrates the maxillary advancement?
Is there any way to fix an open bite (posterior and anterior, with occlusion only on 2nd molars) without jaw surgery or extraction/refractive orthodontics?
I dont have the classic "long face gummy smile" rather the opposite, a short face, but I've developed/worsened an existing open bite in the last few months. It isnt that severe but it is causing a lot of discomfort eating, TMJ problems, constant jaw clenching and trouble keeping mouth closed comfortably.
I also have a narrow palate, im open to palatal expansion like FME or MARPE
Also regarding invisalign, I'd ideally want to stay away from it due to what I've heard online, and also the fact that I'd need to wear retainers for life.
Im open to jaw surgery, but it wont be possible anytime soon atleast within the next 1 or 2 years, so I need to reliably fix this problem for the time being
With braces there is also the issue of the jaw side profile looking more recessed, or the face looking shorter and aesthetic impacts like this so Id be aiming for the most aesthetically possible option possible
What do you guys think? Im in constant pain and would really love to hear your thoughts.
Finally found a photo of my nose pre op. (1st pic) - 2nd pic post op 2 weeks I’m just sad