u/Important_Bunch_7766

How would you describe the Übermensch?

A happy one, a true one, a reasonable one. But madness and wisdom in one.

An ideal, a most well-constituted man (also visually), something beyond good and evil.

Not something that everyone can become, but something that a few are born to, if they are reared rightly, and they probably only know themselves what this "rightly" is in their case.

Not someone who works and drudgingly works the ranks, but rather someone that "abuses" society to climb up, like Nietzsche says, like the Sipo Matador.

Something that many may strive for, but only a few will reach. As a mode of life, a way of being, a type in society.

A ruler, a commander, a lawgiver. Not just someone existing in his own world without contact with the real society, but rather someone engaged in society in his very own way.

A lucky case, he knows he is lucky, he knows that he is too overrich, that he is superfluous. He longs for equals, but finds none.

Something really beyond "normal life", someone who does not cower from frightful and questionable paths, who knows that he cannot be repeated or copied.

He must become the meaning of life and society, he must replace God, he must inspire the higher men around him.

Some will say that it is not something you can become, it is not some real men, it it just a way of life and an ideal superposed beyond us and in TSZ, a figure that Nietzsche uses as a caricature of what should be striven for, but I believe that Nietzsche intended for his concept to describe real men, to describe real lives, to describe real goals.

It is a goal that might be realized in the near future, it is not thousand of years hence, it is something that we might soon see in society.

Once this Übermensch comes we will all feel him as superhuman (to us), we will agree that he is an Übermensch, we will know his legacy once he is dead.

He stands so far away from the masses and the last man that it will seem, like Nietzsche says, like an involuntary parody, that is only with him that the real seriousness begins.

How would you describe the Übermensch?

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u/Important_Bunch_7766 — 17 hours ago

“Life swings like a pendulum backward and forward between pain and boredom.” — Can you escape this? "Affirm life", yes, but will life ever be anything but mostly pain or boredom?

Be healthy, get boredom.

Live a quiet and peaceful life, get boredom.

Live in contradiction to life, be a conqueror, wage war, get pain.

Beyond all the active nihilism and anti-nihilism in Nietzsche, is there even any way out?

Let's imagine the most well-constituted man, the man who is "hard, sweet and fragrant". Someone who certainly not a loser or failure, someone who contains all the right things, someone who can even begin to ascend towards the Übermensch.

To him, Schopenhauers statement (the quote in the title) may seem wrong or infantile, but the reality is that life most of the time will be boring, except for the moments where it brings pain.

But then again, is there anything wrong with this? Is this different from how it "is supposed to be?" When I was a teenager I dreaded the normal adult life, the healthy life, the boring life.

Much rather would I be sick and adventurous spiritually.

Is there any joy so great that it washes out the boredom from the sea which one inhabits?

So that is life: choose your pain. And choose your medicine.

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u/Important_Bunch_7766 — 10 days ago

Despite all our suffering and mishaps, we must again and again find our meaning in the service of the Übermensch.

We must believe in a higher creature, a higher happiness, a higher lordliness.

Perhaps AI will eradicate the need for and meaning of the Übermensch, but until then we must believe that there exists this higher form of life.

We must surrender our will and desires so that this higher creature may live.

Something as noble and aristocratic — and high in every sense — as the Übermensch, the man above man, the man beyond man, something superhuman, must be placed in society as the goal of all our striving.

Sure, it will only be for the "luxurious surplus of mankind", for the commanding and governing elements, but we must believe in a higher form, a higher life, a higher position.

Even if it is not ourselves we must still advocate for the creation of this supreme being, this lord of man superpositioned above the general man.

As only he can rule man, only he can truly look down on man, truly keep his distance to man.

The happiest, truest, most magnificient creature.

Will to Power 910:

>"The type of my disciples.—To those human beings who are of any concern to me I wish suffering, desolation, sickness, ill-treatment, indignities - I wish that they should not remain unfamiliar with profound self-contempt, the torture of self-mistrust, the wretchedness of the vanquished: I have no pity for them, because I wish them the only thing that can prove today whether one is worth anything or not - that one endures."

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u/Important_Bunch_7766 — 21 days ago