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Cynicism isn’t Nietzschean

Many people who call themselves Nietzscheans—or worse, claim to be the Übermensch—are nothing more than cynics. They insist that society makes them sick, that happy people are pathetic, and they carry themselves as if they alone see the truth while everyone else stumbles through life blind. Ironically, this mindset is almost the opposite of what Nietzsche advocated.

They have far more in common with the Underground Man from Notes from Underground than with Nietzsche. Nietzsche was an active nihilist: he sought to overcome nihilism by creating new values, not by wallowing in resentment or endlessly condemning society.

Turning Nietzsche into an idol of self-proclaimed superiority is precisely the kind of misreading he feared. His philosophy was never meant to validate people who simply believe they’re smarter than everyone else.

Thinking you’re intellectually superior, despising ordinary people, and hiding behind cynicism doesn’t make you Nietzschean. It makes you bitter.

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u/TWOTN78 — 4 hours ago
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Picture of the year

Aghori Sadhu in Varanasi is reading Zarathustra‘s „The way of the creating one“ in Hindi translation as his first text from western philosophy.

u/Top-Document3370 — 13 hours ago

How should Nietzsche’s “Seek zeros!” aphorism in Twilight of the Idols be interpreted?

I’m trying to understand Nietzsche’s aphorism from Twilight of the Idols, “Maxims and Arrows”:

“What? You seek? You would like to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? — Seek zeros!”

Original German:

“Was? du suchst? du möchtest dich verzehnfachen, verhundertfachen? du suchst Anhänger? — Suche Nullen!”

I came across two different interpretations, and I’m not sure which one is more plausible.

The first interpretation was generated by ChatGPT, and I found it somewhat suspicious because I could not find other authors or commentators explaining the aphorism this way. According to that reading, Nietzsche is making a mathematical pun: if you want to multiply yourself by ten or a hundred, you add zeros. So “followers” are compared to zeros because they increase your apparent size or public importance, but do not add any real value of their own. In this interpretation, Nietzsche is criticizing people who seek disciples, followers, or masses of supporters. The point would be that wanting many followers is not a sign of greatness; it may only mean that one has gathered enough “zeros” around oneself.

The second interpretation I found, from a Reddit comment, reads the aphorism differently. According to this view, Nietzsche is encouraging us not to identify with a collective, political party, project, or mass ideology. On this reading, Nietzsche values individual difference, uniqueness, originality of thought, and personally shaped worldviews over mass movements of thought and action. The “zero” here would not simply mean a worthless follower, but rather a unique person whose individuality cannot be reproduced by multiplication, propaganda, or ideological conformity. In short, this interpretation sees Nietzsche as encouraging us to engage with unique, independent thinkers or personalities, and to form our own identities in confrontation with such individuals rather than becoming part of a collective ideology.

My question is: which of these interpretations is closer to what Nietzsche likely meant in this aphorism?

More specifically:

  1. Does “Nullen” here most naturally mean “worthless people,” “nonentities,” or “zeros” in the mathematical sense of adding zeros to multiply a number?
  2. Are there any serious Nietzsche commentators who discuss this specific aphorism?

Thanks in advance

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u/Automatic_Age5439 — 21 hours ago
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Can we observe the Solomon's Paradox within philosophers?

Many philosopher like Albert Camus, Friedrich Nietzsche, Jean-Paul Satre, Peter Wessel Zapffe, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Hegel, Schopenhauer, Thomas Aquanias, Barauch Spinoza, etc. built the large modern philosophy. Many problems that they tried to solve, was what consumed them.

For example, we can see in Nietzsche that he advocated for self-overcoming, amor fati, and affirming, suffering, and becoming who one is, creating one's values, and his ideal figure that was the Übermensch. But history tells something else. Nietzsche himself experienced chronic illness, which we can attribute to his health state, but also he received migraines, isolation, academic failure, social alienation, and he had an requited attachment towards Lou Andreas-Salomé. And he also had several psychological collapses.

We can see similar thing with Albert Camus. He argued that life was absurd, and that the universe offers no inherent meaning, and that we should rebel against absurdity. And from his Myth of Sisyphus, he proved that one must imagine Sisyphus happy, but he himself suffered with tuberculosis. He had political disillusionment, and there were several conflicts with the French left, and estrangement from former allies. He had guilt and anxiety during the colonial crisis in Algeria.

And with Hegel, we can see that he envisioned history as rational, progressive, and dialectical, and moving towards freedom. He also said that the real is rational. But his life, he experienced a lot of instability in early life, struggled professionally for years, he witnessed wars and political upheaval, sometimes accommodated existing power structures.

And same thing can be done with Arthur Schopenhauer, Jean-Paul Sartre, and many other people. And I can truly say that the struggle is in everybody's life. Even in my life, I cannot become the sort of figure that my philosophy has.

But as far as we can see, there are several of these philosophers who had their struggles but in many situations could not apply their philosophy as properly as they should have been able to, even though their life contained suffering, but they could not apply their own philosophy up to much greater extent. My idea is not accusation, it is about analysis, about seeing how Solomon's paradox can affect philosophy and other philosophers in history, and how one can learn from it.

u/SohamTheHuman — 1 day ago

Heatwave

Does not complaining about the summer heat make you the ubermensch? I know it might be hot outside but i don’t really go outside so there’s no heat to complain about. Maybe if i go outside and feel the heat i’ll stop being the ubermensch but until then I will keep the ubermesch title.

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Interview with continental philosopher on nietzsche

Talked about the Übermensch and whether it’s something you become or an ideal, Zarathustra and the teaching of the overman, the “last man,” Nietzsche as the most-read philosopher in the world and why he speaks to young people’s souls in a way analytic philosophy doesn’t, and the Christian moral interpretation of the world. There are timestamps in the description

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u/DysgraphicZ — 1 day ago
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"Is Philosophy Useless?" What do you think of this video?

This video asks the same question. But, my question is: "What is Philosophy?"

u/SohamTheHuman — 2 days ago
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On my 47th birthday, my daughter gave this to me as a gift. It's very comfortable and fits well.

u/GoodNewsHD — 2 days ago

I'd say the series are all about will to power but people on this subreddit wouldn't like it

u/sudo_i_u_toor — 2 days ago
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Rethinking the Übermensch: Why Nietzsche's ideals were flawed by his era, and how a grounded psychological model works instead (16M)

Greetings everyone! First of all, this post is heavily connected to Jungian concepts, as I am breaking down a map of psychological balance. Nietzsche's Übermensch is only mentioned here as a popular parallel because it is built on a somewhat similar foundation.

Since the most important part is in the picture, I will break down exactly how this structure works.

Part 1: The Map Structure

  1. The Child (The Axiom of the Beginning)

Everything starts with the Child. We all begin our lives and our exploration of the world from this point. When awareness of the world finally arrives, we start to look around—not as a fragmentation of the mind, but differently. We start walking on our own two feet, playing cards, playing the guitar, or skiing.

  1. The Left Path: Interest

On the left is Interest. Everyone has it—the drive to explore, to manifest oneself in society, and to ask questions. That’s why Interest always starts with the fundamental question: "Why do I live?" A question most of us ask ourselves during our early formative years.

From here, the path splits in two:

Work/Creation.

Dark Interest: This is an impulse that captures us—like the dark psychology of manipulation—simply because it is interesting. This leads to personal goals disconnected from the pure exploration of the world (like the Child's). It's driven by hidden motives: gaining power, finding people's weak spots, or using information to manipulate.

The Failsafe (Mercy): Opposing this dark side is ordinary Mercy. It acts as a safety valve so the water doesn't flow into the wrong pipe, preventing us from falling into the trap of endless fascination with our dark side.

  1. The Right Path: The Absurd

The right arrow leads to the Absurd. We arrive here when we realize the world is foolish and come to the conclusion that existence is inherently absurd. From here, there are also two branches:

Absolute Absurdity (or Cynicism): We reach this state when our mind completely "goes crazy," bringing us close to the archetype of the Jester. We see everything, we understand everything, but we can't do anything about it because we've reached the purest state of awareness. We go mad from the absolute absurdity of how the world is built.

The Failsafes (Faith and Work): The only safety valves here are Faith and Working toward happiness. Faith that things can be good, that good people exist, and if they don't, becoming one yourself to set an example. And Work—building emotional resilience and working toward your own happiness and the happiness of others.

  1. The Center: The Heart (Ideology/Stoicism)

Next is the heart. Ignore that it says "Stoicism"—I wrote that because I was leaning on that philosophy when making this map. But the heart encompasses absolutely any ideology or religion. We can place any belief system there that includes a goal or a monolith: reaching spiritual well-being, standing like a rock in a stormy sea, or elevating oneself to a god (through power, like Nietzsche). This meets us in the real point of every moment we live.

  1. The Real-World Metaphors (The Images)

Two Legs: Two legs are two legs :D... But seriously, if one of our two legs (Interest or Absurdity) is weak, we will limp. We all want to move and stand firmly on the ground. That’s why we must work on both.

The Guitar: The strings represent Interest, which we tune ourselves to achieve the purest clarity. The hollow body of the guitar represents the Absurd—the void that allows us to actually hear the sound.

Cards: It’s a game of cards :D... If we just go with the flow and throw cards randomly, we will understand nothing and lose out of ignorance. If we count the cards, we know what to expect and can actually win.

Skis: Just like two legs :D... Only it hurts more if you fall.

Every image shows slightly different aspects of life, but they all lead to a general understanding that helps us live.

Part 2: The Asymmetric Pendulum

"A human being is a constantly vibrating line," I say.

Looking at the lower part of the diagram, the graph illustrates this moving line as the human experience.

  1. The Absolute Zero

The center line represents the absolute emotional zero—the baseline coordinate from which we begin our existence. It is crucial to note that remaining at this emotional zero is impossible, as it would mean the system's power supply has been completely shut down. Even when a person dies, they do not stay at zero; they remain fixed at the exact level they occupied at the moment of death.

The plus (+x) and minus (-x) lines represent individual boundaries. Every person has their own limits, though it is currently impossible to measure them precisely due to a lack of proper equipment.

The Plus (+x): This encompasses all "positive" emotions a person can experience. It is impossible to definitively describe the point of maximum satisfaction, because what even constitutes ultimate satisfaction? The positive side can often act like rose-colored glasses, carrying its own blind spots.

The Minus (-x): This captures all "negative" sensations. However, these are fundamentally directed toward a sharper, brutal clarity—raw reality and the confrontation with the world's absurdity. In a way, the minus represents a realistic, or even overly realistic, perception of life.

  1. The Negative Extremum and Recovery

Any person can reach the negative extremum—the state of deep depression. Within this dark space, an individual discovers unique, expanded capacities and insights—often uncovered through the painful process of "hitting a wall" during their crisis.

However, it is entirely possible to emerge from this state. It requires accepting actual realities and relying on external support systems—be it loved ones or professional specialists. This process is painful, but it is entirely worth it to return the system to its natural state of oscillation.

  1. The Pendulum and Enantiodromia

The psychological pendulum primarily swings from plus to minus, because the core function of this mechanism is to pull you back to harsh reality. When everything is going exceptionally well, you become flooded with energy. Due to this accumulated energy and the momentum of the pendulum, you fly right past the absolute zero mark straight into the negative zone, dropping back into reality.

For example: Imagine you are playing a game and winning. The moment you tell yourself, "I’ve definitely won, I am the king of this game," you are instantly and brutally dropped back to reality, where you suddenly begin to lose.

  1. The Pressure Relief Valve

To explain how this energy accumulates, I am introducing the concept of the Pressure Relief Valve. When this valve overflows, it forces a reversal in order to balance you back toward the absolute zero baseline.

This valve fills up from almost imperceptible things in daily routine or casual conversations. It can fill up incredibly fast if you interact with someone who has already "burst"—someone who is actively venting their accumulated pressure and discharging their energy into the real world around them.

u/Specific-Abuza — 3 days ago

Would Nietzsche have criticized hiis own followers?

One of the bigest ironies about Nietzsche is that some of his biggest admirers sem to embody the vry thing he criticized.

From my surface-level understanding, Nietzsche's philosophy was deeply opposed to herd mentality people blindly following authority, trends, or popular opinion instead of thinking for themselve

Yet today, there seems to be a subset of self-proclaimed intellectuals who praise Nietzsche simply because he's considered "deep" or intellectually fashionable. They quote him, treat his words as unquestionable, and use his name as a badge of intelligence without critically engaging with his ideas.

If that's the case, aren't they doing exactly what Nietzsche warned against? Blindly following an authority—even if that authority is Nietzsche himself—seems like the very definition of herd mentality.

Am I misunderstnding his philosophy, or is this irony something others have noticed as well?

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u/muzmailafzal — 3 days ago

You guys think Nietzsche would hate how modern day society treats people with suicidal ideation or actuall depression?

I just see a lot of people in my life use depression or any other mental health issues as a way to seem cool but as a person who has suffered from a lot of them (I mean I read Nietzsche and Camus what did you expect),and it always pissed me off but right now as I’m typing this I’ve had one thought on my mind…would Nietzsche hate this too?
Looking at Nietzsche and his personal life,he was most definitely a very troubled and traumatized individual.,loss of his father,younger brother,and not a touch of love and intimacy at all in his life…so naturally,he probably would hate the thought how most life’s that suffer from the same misery and pain as him being mistreated and labeled than “normal” people in life,so what would he think about how it is today?
PS,sorry if this post is stupid or I seem like I don’t know what I’m talking about I’m just bored and this thought hit me.

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u/Muziuzi48 — 3 days ago
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Nietzsche said the most violent people in history weren't evil — they were just completely certain. Is certainty the most dangerous human trait?

He watched humans condemn each other for beliefs they never chose.

Go to war over perspectives they inherited without question.

Call their worldview truth and everyone else's a lie.

Nietzsche didn't call this stupidity. He called it the most dangerous blindness there is.

Because ignorance can be cured with knowledge.

But certainty? Certainty closes every door.

"The most dangerous form of blindness is believing your perspective is the only reality."

Is there something you're completely certain about that you've never actually questioned?

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u/TheTensionHour — 3 days ago

I smoked weed and went to psychosis, established a cult centered around the Übermensch.

I smoked weed a couple days ago, and smoked a bit too much, as my tolerance was lower I expected. After calling the emergency services of a suspected heart attack, I took a cab to my home.

During the drive home I started to ponder my values deeper I had ever before, and became convinced this is my enlightenment to ascend to Übermensch.

When I arrived home with a couple of friends, I already had started preaching of Nietschze and the Übermensch to them, and telling them that I am the Übermensch now, after becoming enlightened.

The worst part was, they didn’t call the psych ward for my psychosis episode, but they started to believe me and listened to me preach, and started asking questions how they should live.

Fast forward to the time I’m posting this, they are still convinced of me being a superior being to them and ask for my wisdom for everyday things. Should I use this power to help them make better decisions or should I tell them the truth?

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u/Leader_Serious — 3 days ago