Creepy Crawling

Creepy Crawling

Was creepy crawling, the brainchild of Manson a dress rehearsal for murder or some kind of humorous terrorism that might have been fun? Breaking silently into middle-class "pigs'" homes with your friends while you’re tripping on LSD and gathering around the sleeping residents in their beds, not to harm them but to watch them sleep while experiencing fear? It does sound like it could have been a mind-bending adventure. When they upped it and moved furniture around to fuck with the waking homeowners' perception of reality and as a sign they had been there, was it still for fun and games or was it conditioning to commit violence all along?

u/Impressive_Review — 1 day ago

“Fake News” Is Nothing New!

This 1971 National Bulletin article claiming Charles Manson was the illegitimate son of Adolf Hitler was fabricated to exploit public interest following the Manson Family convictions and gained traction due to the X or Swastika imagery carved in their foreheads.

u/Impressive_Review — 2 days ago

Charlie’s Bizzare Postcard To Marilyn Manson

In August 2012 Charles Manson sent a bizarre postcard, which appears to be genuine to goth rocker Marilyn Manson, whose stage name is a combination of Marilyn Monroe and Charles Manson. Marilyn Manson (born Brian Warner) never responded to the letter, though he previously covered Manson's song "Sick City" and mentioned receiving it in interviews. The text is as follows:

To Marilyn Manson: It’s taken me a long time to git there from where I could touch M. Manson. Now I got a card to play – you may look into my none profit, ATWA, and give Manson what you think he’s got coming for Air, Trees, Water, and you. Or I will pay Manson what you think Manson got coming – the music has make Manson into Abraxas Devil, and I’m SURE you would want some of what I got from what I got.  It’s a far out balance.  Beyond good and bad, right, wrong.  What you don’t do is what I will do – what you did a sing-along, and let it roll and said how you saved me a lot of steps – I don’t need, it’s not a need or a want.  Couped – coup.  Ghost dancers slay together and you’re just in my grave Sunstroker Corona-coronas-coronae – you seen me from under with it all standing on me.  That’s 2 dump trucks – doing the same as CMF 000007
Charles Manson”

u/Impressive_Review — 2 days ago

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u/Impressive_Review — 3 days ago

Clothing Made With Human Hair

I've always thought Manson's ceremonial vest made by the girls was creepy because of the family member's human hair embroidered or intertwined into it. Well, John Lennon had a coat made with human hair! "I wanted a fur coat but I didn't want an animal fur coat. This looked like it had tons of Yoko's heads on me, just all this sort of black Asian hair on me" he said.

The "Hur Coat" was made with the hair of 30 Asian girls by Fran Cooney who produced similar coats for $700.00, equivalent to $6,392.00 today.

Photo #1) John Lennon and Yoko Ono 1969 Paris, France @Keystone/Getty Images
Photo #2) Charles Manson's ceremonial vest

u/Impressive_Review — 4 days ago

Tom O’Neill's Chaos: "Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" Book Reviewed by CIA Agent Intelligence In Public Media (2 Pages)/LA Times Book Review

Reliance on Circumstantial Evidence: The book posits that Manson was a product of the CIA's MKUltra mind-control program. Critics point out that this is entirely conjectural, as there is no direct, documented evidence linking Manson to the CIA

Contradictory and Disputed Claims: O'Neill attempts to poke holes in the "Helter Skelter" motive established by prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, but his own reporting offers conflicting narratives. For instance, O'Neill suggests Manson may have been a police informant or working for the FBI, while simultaneously arguing he was a CIA brainwashing victim

Speculative Implications: The book leans heavily on guilt by association and timing (e.g., Manson and his followers occasionally visiting a clinic tied to a CIA-funded doctor) to build a conspiracy, rather than demonstrating a direct chain of events leading to the murders.

Subjective Motives: Because so many primary figures involved in the original trial died before the book's 2019 publication—including Bugliosi and Manson himself—O'Neill's assertions that the original case was a fabricated cover-up rely heavily on interpretation rather than definitive, on-the-record proof

Courtesy: #1)The CIA's (Leslie C) review of Tom O'Neill's "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" @ https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/Review-Chaos-CharlesManson-25-Sep.pdf #2) Los Angeles Times https://www.latimes.com/books/la-ca-jc-review-chaos-charles-manson-dan-piepenbring-20190711-story.html

u/Impressive_Review — 4 days ago

Well You Know I Knew/Charles Manson/Dennis Wilson/The Beach Boys

The guitarist on "Well You Know I Knew" by some accounts, and reportedly Brian's engineer, is Charles Manson, and the tape on which it was recorded apparently includes a take of Manson recording “Look at Your Game Girl” — a different version of the song from the one that has since been released. Indeed, it seems that Manson recorded a whole album of unreleased material in Brian Wilson’s home studio — where the Beach Boys were doing most of their own recording, and with the involvement of not just Dennis, but according to some sources Brian and Carl Wilson too. That material has never been released and will never be released, for fairly obvious reasons. There’s also been some suggestion that Manson may have co-written that song, though we’ll never know for sure. There was apparently a deal between Manson and Wilson that Wilson would buy out Manson’s share of two songs that they co-wrote.

There has been a lot of speculation — and some outright statements of fact, though based on what evidence I’m unsure — that one of the two songs Manson and Wilson co-wrote was “Be With Me”, a song on 20/20 that’s credited solely to Wilson — with both these songs Manson apparently wanted money but not credit, and I’ve seen various different claims as to why this is, ranging from him not wanting to be associated with the uncool Beach Boys to just being more interested in getting the money than the credit.

At this point Dennis was fully involved with the Manson Family — so much so that he would in the 1970s, while intoxicated and breaking his general silence on the matter, tell one journalist that he and Manson had started the Family together rather than Manson doing it on his own. Everyone around Dennis seems to have downplayed the length of time the two were involved with each other, mostly in order to play down their own involvements too. The official story has Manson and his family living in Wilson’s house for a few months, probably from April 1968 (which is when Wilson seems to have encountered Manson for the first time). According to that story, Wilson moved out of the house in August because by that point he was starting to get creeped out by Manson, and didn’t want to be the one to evict him, so he moved in with his friend Gregg Jakobson and let Manson and the Family stay in his mansion until Wilson’s landlord evicted them.

If that was the case, then given that the Beach Boys were on tour for most of April, part of May, the first half of July and almost all of August, then Wilson’s association with Manson would have lasted a few non-contiguous weeks, and would barely be worth a footnote.
But there are interviews with Wilson, published at the time, from the Beach Boys’ European tour in summer 1969, a full year after he supposedly started to try to distance himself from Manson, in which he talks enthusiastically about his friendship with Manson.

Courtesy: Excerpt The Beach Boys, “Well You Know I Knew" Andrew Hickey Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-history-of-rock-music-in-500-songs/id1437402802

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u/Impressive_Review — 5 days ago

Serial Killers' Portraits Of Charles Manson, Murderobilia, The Law

Murderobilia has always been controversial. The bigger the crime and the more recognizable the criminal’s name, the higher the value for the piece. It's unlikely that anyone would be interested in most of this artwork until someone found out that the artist murdered somebody.

A "Son of Sam” law was enacted in New York to prevent David Berkowitz to profit from his book. This law has been invoked multiple times. But the U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously in 1991 that it infringed on First Amendment rights. Yet a judge awarded 90% of the proceeds from the sale of the rights to O.J. Simpson’s book “If I Did It” to the family of Ron Goldman, who was slain alongside Simpson’s wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, in 1994.

Families of the victims won federal lawsuits against Charles Manson in the early 1970s, which entitled them to a portion of any profits or royalties he generated. However, Manson found loopholes by selling artwork, merchandise, and interviews from prison through third parties. When Guns N' Roses covered a Manson song on their 1993 album, the son of victim Voytek Frykowski secured an agreement to receive the royalties. Similarly, director Quentin Tarantino pledged song royalties to victims' families after featuring Manson's music. Manson accumulated an estate estimated anywhere between $400,000-$1 million by the time of his death resulting in his remaining assets—including his image rights and personal effects the subject of a bitter legal battle between people claiming to be his heirs.

Legislators have been trying for 25 years to stop criminals from making a profit. Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) has tried repeatedly to pass legislation outlawing the sale of murderabilia, with a difference between a murderer profiting from a book or movie deal and a third party earning some cash from a true-crime souvenir.

What do you think about this?

#1) By John Wayne Gacy, rapist and murderer of 33+ young men
#2) By Henry Lee Lucas, convicted murderer of 11, confessed to many more
#3-#4) By Ottis Toole, convicted of 6 murders, partner in crimes of Henry Lee Lucas

#5) Charles Manson "returned the favor" and did a portrait of John Wayne Gacy as his infamous Pogo The Clown persona

u/Impressive_Review — 5 days ago

ATWA Pamphlet (2 pages)

ATWA, an ideology created by Charles Manson stands for 'Air-Trees-Water-Animals' and 'All the Way Alive'. His followers eventually turned it into a movement.

u/Impressive_Review — 12 days ago

"My Acid Trip With Squeaky Fromme" By Paul Krassner

~Paul Krassner (1932-2019) was a key figure in the counterculture of the 1960s as a member of Ken Kesey's Merry Pranksters and a founding member of the Yippies, a term he is credited with coming up with~

Manson was on Death Row -- before capital punishment was repealed (and later reinstated, but not retroactively) in California -- so I was unable to meet with him. Reporters had to settle for an interview with any prisoner awaiting the gas chamber, and it was unlikely that Charlie would be selected at random for me.

In the course of our correspondence, there was a letter from Manson consisting of a few pages of gibberish about Christ and the Devil, but at one point, right in the middle, he wrote in tiny letters, "Call Squeaky," with her phone number. I called, and we arranged to meet at her apartment in Los Angeles. On an impulse, I brought several tabs of acid with me on the plane.

Squeaky resembled a typical redheaded, freckle-faced waitress who sneaks a few tokes of pot in the lavatory, a regular girl-next-door except perhaps for the unusually challenging nature of her personality, plus the scar of an X that she had gouged and burned into her forehead as a visual reminder of her commitment to Charlie. That same symbol also covered the third eyes of her roommates, Manson family members Sandra Good and Brenda McCann.

"We've crossed ourselves out of this entire system," Squeaky explained.

They all had short hairstyles growing in now, after having completely shaved their heads. They continued to sit on the sidewalk near the Hall of Justice every day, like a coven of faithful nuns bearing witness to Manson's martyrdom.

Sandy Good had seen me perform at The Committee Theater in San Francisco a few years previously. Now she told me that when she first met Charlie and people asked her what he was like, she had compared him to Lenny Bruce and me. It was the weirdest compliment I ever got, but I began to understand Manson's peculiar charisma. With his sardonic rap, mixed with psychedelic drugs and real-life theater games such as "creepy-crawling" and stealing, he had deprogrammed his family from the values of mainstream society, but reprogrammed them with his own perverted philosophy, a cosmic version of the racism perpetuated by the prison system that had served as his family.

Manson had stepped on Sandy's eyeglasses, thrown away her birth control pills, and inculcated her with racist insensibility. Although she had once been a civil rights activist, she was now asking me to tell John Lennon that he should get rid of Yoko Ono and stay with "his own kind."

"If Yoko really loved the Japanese people," Sandy replied, "she would not want to mix their blood."

The four of us ingested those little white tablets containing 300 micrograms of LSD, then took a walk to the office of Laurence Merrick, who had been associated with schlock biker exploitation movies as the prerequisite to directing a sensationalist documentary, "Manson"
Squeaky's basic vulnerability emerged as she kept pacing around and telling Merrick that she was afraid of him. He didn't know we were tripping, but he must have sensed the vibes. He may even have gotten a touch of contact high. I engaged him in conversation about movies. We discussed the fascistic implications of The French Connection.

He said, "You're pretty articulate--"

"For a bum," I finished his sentence, and we laughed.

Next we went to the home of some friends of the family, smoked a few joints of soothing grass, and listened to music. They sang along with the lyrics of "The Horse With No Name" -- which I figured was about heroin -- "In the desert you can't remember your name, 'cause there ain't no one there to give you no pain." I was basking in the afterglow of the Moody Blues' "Om" song when Sandy began to speak of "the gray people" -- regular citizens going about their daily business -- that she had been observing from her vantage point on the corner near the Hall of Justice.

"We were just sitting there," she said, "and they were walking along, kind of avoiding us. It's like watching a live movie in front of you. Sometimes I just wanted to kill the gray people, because that was the only way they would be able to experience the total NOW

That was an expression that Manson had borrowed from Scientology. When ranch-hand Shorty Shea was killed, he was first tied up, a few of the girls gave him blowjobs, and when he climaxed, his head was chopped off because he had reached the NOW.

That was an expression that Manson had borrowed from Scientology. When ranch-hand Shorty Shea was killed, he was first tied up, a few of the girls gave him blowjobs, and when he climaxed, his head was chopped off because he had reached the Now.

Later, Sandy said, "I didn't mean it literally about killing the gray people. I was speaking from another dimension."

She told me that prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi once snarled at her as she kept her vigil outside the courthouse: "We're gonna get you because you sucked Charlie Manson's dick." Bugliosi also accused Squeaky of threatening him during the trial, although reporters who witnessed a confrontation between them on that streetcorner heard him threaten to send her to the gas chamber. The girls just sat there on the sidewalk and laughed. They knew that oral-genital relations did not constitute a capital offense.

When we returned to their apartment, Sandy asked if I wanted to take a hot bath. I felt ambivalent. One of the defense attorneys had told me that he participated in a memorable threesome with Squeaky and Sandy, but I had also been told by a reporter, "It certainly levels the high to worry about getting stabbed while fucking the Manson ladies in the bunkhouse at the Spahn Ranch -- I've found that the only satisfactory position is sitting up, back to the wall, facing the door."

Visions of the classic shower scene in Psycho flashed through my mind, but despite the shrill self-righteousness that infected their True Believer Syndrome, these women had charmed me with their apparent honesty and humor, not to mention their distorted sense of compassion. They sensed my hesitation, and Squeaky, not Sandy, confronted me.

"You're afraid of me," she said, "aren't you?"

"Not really. Should I be?"

Sandy tried to reassure me: "She's beautiful, Paul. Just look into her eyes. Isn't she beautiful?"

Squeaky and I stared silently at each other for a while -- I recalled that Manson had written, "I never picked up anyone who had not already been discarded by society" -- and eventually my eyes began to tear. There were tears in Squeaky's eyes too. She asked me to try on Charlie's vest. It felt like a bizarre honor to participate in this family ceremony. The corduroy vest was a solid inch thick with embroidery -- snakes and dragons and devilish designs including human hair that had been woven into the multi-colored patterns.

Sandy took her bath, but instead of getting into the tub with her -- assuming her invitation had included that -- I sat fully dressed on the toilet and we talked, while I tried not to ogle her pert nipples.

"What's that scar on your back?" I asked.

"It's from a lung operation."

Later, Brenda asked for another tab of acid to send Manson in prison. She ground it into powder which she glued to the stationery with vegetable dye, adding the notation, "Words fly fast," explaining that Charlie would know what it meant. She stayed up late that night, writing letters to several prisoners with the dedication of a polygamous war wife.

Squeaky visited me a few times in San Francisco. On the way to lunch one day, she lit a cigarette, and I told her about the series of advertisements by which women were originally conditioned into smoking: a woman standing next to a man who was smoking; next, a woman saying to the man, "Blow some my way"; and finally a woman smoking her own cigarette. Squeaky simply smiled, said, "Okay," and dropped her cigarette on the sidewalk, crushing it out with her shoe.

Another time, when I attempted to point out a certain fallacy in her logic, she responded, "Well, what do you expect from me? I'm crazy!"

She told me that she had been beaten up by members of the Mel Lyman family from Boston because she wouldn't switch her allegiance to them, even though they'd had plans to break Manson out of jail by means of a helicopter while his trial was taking place.

"They're well organized," she said.

Squeaky mailed me her drawing in red ink of a woman's face with a pair of hands coming out of her mouth. Written in script was the song lyric, "Makes me wanna holler, throw up both my hands...."

Photo #1 Paul Krassner, Abbie Hoffman, Ed Sanders (1969)
Photo #2 Book, original cloth cover

u/Impressive_Review — 12 days ago

Happy Fathers Day!

My parents who met and married the week they met in Virginia Beach while he was on leave from the army during the Korean war and she was on spring break from college

u/Impressive_Review — 17 days ago

Charles Manson On The Beatles' "White Album" 1970 Interview

Q & A: The Beatles "White Album"

Question: Can you explain the meaning of Revelations, Chapter 9?
What do you think it means?

Manson: It’s the battle of Armageddon. It’s the end of the world. It was the Beatles’ “Revolution 9” that turned me on to it. It predicts the overthrow of the Establishment. The pit will be opened, and that’s when it will all come down. A third of all mankind will die. The only people who escape will be those who have the seal of God on their foreheads. You know that part, “They will seek death but they will not find it.”

Question: How do you know that these things are coming about?

Manson: I’m just telling you what my awareness sees. I look into the future like an Indian on a trail. I know what my senses tell me. I can just see it coming, and when it comes I will just say, “Hi there!” [He says it like a used-car salesman greeting the Apocalypse from a TV screen in some empty room.]

Question: Why do you think that this revolution predicted in “Revolution 9” will be violent? Why will it be racial?

Manson: Have you heard of the Muslims? Have you heard of the Black Panthers? Englishmen, do you remember cutting off the heads of praying Muslims with the cross sewn onto your battledress? Can you imagine it? Well, imagination is the same as memory. You and all Western Man killed and mutilated them and now they are reincarnated and they are going to repay you. The soul in the white man is lying down. They were praying, kneeling in the temple. They did not want war. And the white man came in the name of Christ and killed them all.

Question: Can you explain the prophecies you found in the Beatles’ double album? [Charlie starts drawing some lines on the back of a sheet of white paper, three vertical lines and one horizontal line. In the bottom area he writes the word SUB.]

Manson: OK. Give me the names of four songs on the album.

[We choose “Piggies,” “Helter Skelter,” “Blackbird,” and he adds “Rocky Raccoon.” Charlie writes down the titles at the top of each vertical section. Under “Helter Skelter” he draws a zigzag line, under “Blackbird” two strokes, somehow indicating bird sounds. Very strange.]

Manson: This bottom part is the subconscious. At the end of each song there is a little tag piece on it, a couple of notes. Or like in “Piggies” there’s “oink, oink, oink.” Just these couple of sounds. And all these sounds are repeated in “Revolution 9.” Like in “Revolution 9,” all these pieces are fitted together and they predict the violent overthrow of the white man. Like you’ll hear “oink, oink,” and then right after that, machine gun fire. [He sprays the room with imaginary slugs.] AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK!

Question: Do you really think the Beatles intended to mean that?

Manson: I think it’s a subconscious thing. I don’t know whether they did or not. But it’s there. It’s an association in the subconscious. This music is bringing on the revolution, the unorganized overthrow of the Establishment. The Beatles know in the sense that the subconscious knows.

Question: What does “Rocky Raccoon” mean, then?

Manson: Coon. You know that’s a word they use for black people. You know the line, “Gideon checked out and he left it no doubt/to help with good Rocky’s revival.” Rocky’s revival – re-vival. It means coming back to life. The black man is going to come back into power again. The white man is fading, everybody knows that. The black man will take over, they can’t stop it. And they won’t be able to stop me either unless they gag me. "Gideon checks out” means that it’s all written out there in the New Testament, in the Book of Revelations. The Bible also teaches submission. Women were put here to serve men, but only because they are ten times more receptive, more perceptive, than men. The servant is always wiser than the master.

Courtesy: Rolling Stone (excerpt)
June 25, 1970
David Felton, David Dalton
YouTube link: The Beatles "White Album" Full LP

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u/Impressive_Review — 1 month ago

Inquiring Minds Want To Know

Do you think Manson went to the Tate-Polanski home after the murders to "see what his children had done"? Why or why not? If you think he did, who do you think went with him, or did he go alone?

u/Impressive_Review — 1 month ago

Tuesday's Child: In The Wake Of The Manson Murders A Bunch Of Local Beat Poets Founded A Not So Family-Friendly Newspaper That Supported Charles Manson

Tuesday’s Child was born on Nov. 11, 1969 — three weeks after the Manson murders and a month and a half before the new decade. The newspaper was an avant-garde magazine was assembled and curated by a bunch of angry beat poets and old L.A. Free Press writers. They circulated the paper all over the city, selling it for 25 cents a copy.

At the helm of Tuesday’s Child were founder Art Kunkin and editor Chester Anderson. Kunkin was a broke occult-and-labor-union-obsessed retired journalist. Anderson was a Haight-Ashbury zine-maker and musician who slept on a cot inside of the Tuesday’s Child offices in Hollywood. Together, their paper took shape: nonsense, “useful” witchcraft, political satire, riddles, socialist poetry, comics, countercultural sentiment and whatever else came into Kunkin’s head while he trolled the Sunset Strip.

Charles Manson was featured on the cover of Tuesday’s Child as the “Man of the Year.” Unsurprisingly, Tuesday’s Child’s favorite subject was Charles Manson, as he was the perfect intersection of crime, occultism, celebrity, class warfare and local news. The timely coverage of the Manson murders through the absurdist lens of Tuesday’s Child was not only chilling, but it also predicted the rise of Manson’s notoriety and a cultish cynicism that would overtake the softer free-love ideologies of the 1960s. 

Tuesday’s Child inexplicably ceased publication in the mid-1970s. Though the reason it shut down remains unclear, the publication probably didn’t make many friends. The paper was founded to capture the dark transition of Los Angeles culture as the optimistic, soft "free-love" movement of the 1960s that gave way to a cynical, counter-cultural obsession with true crime, drug culture, and the occult. They frequently published articles in support of Charles Manson---as did other underground publications---1969 through the 1970s.

Courtesy: Portions from Rebecca Leib @Los Angeleno 07/2020

u/Impressive_Review — 1 month ago

Tex Watson-Kristin Svege Wedding

Charles "Tex" Watson, serving a life sentance for his role in the Tate-LaBianca murders and Kristin Joan Svege were married in 1979. Utilizing California's conjugal visit policy which ended in 1999, the couple had four children. Svege filed for divorce in 2003 after meeting another man and married him.

During their 24-year marriage, the couple founded Abounding Love Ministries. She homeschooled their children to protect their privacy.

u/Impressive_Review — 1 month ago