r/charlesmansonfamily

Another of LuLu on brief reprive in '78 awaiting retrial. I wonder if she'd have gone on the run had she known she'd be locked up until she was 73 years old?

u/Impressive_Review — 19 hours ago

Imagine just having a collection of Charles Manson voodoo dolls just hanging up on your wall it would be dope but creepy af at the same time

Any idea why most of them are unique in color and how they look ?

u/Rude_Vanilla9565 — 18 hours ago

Manson's parole officer, after his release from prison in 1967

Manson's parole officer, after his release from prison in 1967, was Dr. Roger Smith, a research criminologist who had launched the drug treatment program at the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic:

Charlie was the most hostile parolee I've ever come across. He was totally up front about it. He told me right off there was no way he could keep the terms of his parole. He was headed back to the joint [prison] and there was no way out of it. In another era, I think Charlie would have been back in prison in short order. But now the patterns have changed. You have a very transient, mobile delinquent population, and many of them end up in scenes like this. They pick up the rhetoric and sort of blend in and exploit and manipulate the scene. I think that's where Charlie fit in.

In a sense I think Charlie was really sort of shaken by it all – by the fact that people were friendly, open and willing to do things with him. The first night he was in the Haight, the chicks were willing to go to bed with him. They didn't care whether he had just gotten out of the joint. That was a real shocker for him.

Drugs give you something but they also take. In the case of Charlie, he redefined what reality was. He began to drift farther and farther away. He certainly wasn't operating on anything vaguely related to reality. He did become more articulate, began to develop a distinctive kind of philosophy. He no longer seemed angry or hostile, only more intense.

They talk about the hypnotic kind of state he was able to produce. Always in the back of my mind I felt he was a con man. Charlie's rap was always a little bit too heavy, a little bit too polished. Tenderness toward girls? Not a damn bit. I never sensed he had any real warmth toward the girls. They were his possessions.

There are a lot of Charlies running around, believe me. He's just one of several hundred thousand people who are released from prison after a shattering, soul-rending experience, not prepared for anything except to go back on the streets and do more of the same – but bigger. You get them back in the community and there's no place for them to stay. I couldn't get Charlie into a halfway house because the only one was too small. I couldn't get him training because somehow he didn't meet the state requirements. The only place he was accepted was Haight-Ashbury, and doesn't that say a hell of a lot about the system.

Courtesy: Gene Anthony/David Smith archives

Photo #1 Painted door marking entrance to detox clinic across the street from Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic (1967)
Photo #2 Inside the Haight Ashbury Clinic (1967)
Photo #3 Dr. David Smith outside Haight Ashbury Free Clinic (1975)

u/Impressive_Review — 20 hours ago

Sad Discovery

Frank Struthers Jr, the 14 year old son of Rosemary LaBianca being helped to the car by his father, Frank Struthers. The younger Struthers found his mother and step-father fatally stabbed in their Waverley Drive home.

Courtesy: Bettman/Getty Images

u/Impressive_Review — 3 days ago

Manson's San Quentin Inventory Sheet

San Quentin, 1985, an inventory of the contents of Manson's cell, to which he adds his prisoner number and a note: "missing one doll + scorpion"

u/Impressive_Review — 4 days ago

Manson Family Figures

Bruce Davis
Charles Manson
Tex Watson
Lynette Fromme
Susan Atkins

From Straight To Hell Toy Co:
Featuring handwritten prison letter relic sample. Legacy Series Manson Family figures feature artifacts such as prison letters that are completely documented and in this case, scans of each page of the letter corresponding to your piece are reproduced on the back of the packaging.

Please note this is not an endorsement!

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u/Impressive_Review — 5 days ago

Stylish Crushed Red Velour Shirt

Why is it that Gypsy, Little Paul, and Charlie are all seen sporting the same shirt? I can't help but think that this was deliberate and there's a reason.

u/Impressive_Review — 6 days ago

The Many Moods of Manson

Associated Press wire photograph, titled "The Many Moods of Manson" captures Charles Manson making various facial expressions for photographers while on his way to lunch during the TLB murder trial detailing an incident on Monday, December 21, 1970, involving a courtroom outburst that led to the ejection of Manson and his three female co-defendants: Leslie Van Houten, Susan Atkins, and Patricia Krenwinkel. The disruption reportedly began when Van Houten attempted to dismiss her court-appointed attorney, who had replaced the missing Ronald Hughes. When Judge Charles Older denied the request, the situation escalated, resulting in Van Houten shouting at the court and struggling with bailiffs before being removed. Manson, seen here in high spirits despite the conflict, was also barred from the proceedings due to his own participation in the disturbance

u/Impressive_Review — 7 days ago

Charles Manson on Elvis Presley's Property, Both Sides of the Story

In 1969 Charles Manson was found on Elvis Presley's property at 1174 Hillcrest Ave, Trousdale Estates, Beverly Hills, Ca. (Photo) How he got there, why he got there, and his intent for being there remains…speculative. When discovered on Elvis’ property Manson was said to have called out the names of people “well known” in Hollywood’s musical scene. He also, in between rants of profanity, began to assert that he was a singer/musician himself. At some point he affirmed that he was, and had, “lived there before” As was customary, when fans or others were discovered on the property without notice/permission, the person was removed and informed not to come back. Such was the case when Charles Manson was discovered on the property of Elvis Presley.
 
Charles Manson, in several non-specific interviews, told his version of events as follows: "I lived in Elvis Presley’s house, man. He ran me out of the yard. I got mad at him, I was going to throw some rocks at him, because I thought he was an idiot, an egotistical fucking punk. I never liked him even a little bit, but everybody else always kow-towed to him because he was rich and everything. But to me that don’t mean shit. I don’t give a fuck how rich you are, I’ll bust you up anyway"

In an interview in later years Charles Manson said that “Bing Crosby was a diamond and Elvis Presley was a rhinestone”.

At some point Charles Manson got a newspaper and he took it back to the ranch. While going through the various sections Charles Manson became more and more “bolden” about his success but then his demeanor changed and he slammed the newspaper down and screamed “look at this…look at this”! As members of the family gathered they looked down at the headline proclaiming “Elvis Presley is back in Las Vegas and SOLD OUT”

After the murders occurred Elvis had taken steps to procure guns both in Memphis and in California. Since Tennessee had a Law prohibiting citizens from openly carrying guns Elvis had been appointed a “Special Deputy” and was given a Badge. This event (i.e. the Charles Manson Murders) propelled Elvis’ desire for guns and police badges and would one day bring him to Washington DC (unannounced) to obtain a Federal Narcotics Badge from President Richard Nixon with the photographs becoming…infamous

A few months later Elvis Presley was threatened with being murdered. A letter had been delivered to Colonel Parker saying that Elvis would be killed. Another threat was made at the Hotel Elvis was performing at. The Colonel notified the FBI and every precaution was taken. As Elvis confided to his friend from his hometown Memphis, named Sonny West, that he (Elvis) had a fear of someone shooting and killing him for no reason. Elvis actually broke down and cried in the dressing room. He then called in Red, and Jerry Schilling, (note: they were part of the Memphis Mafia and were part of Elvis Bodyguards) into the room and said, “I haven’t done anything to anybody to get shot. I haven’t hurt anybody. If some SOB tries to kill me, I want you guys to get him; and I want him done up right. I don’t want him sitting around like Charles Manson, with a grin on his face or a claim to fame that he killed Elvis Presley”.

Courtesy: Elvis Collector Archives (portions)

u/Impressive_Review — 8 days ago

Beyond the headlines, the parents of both murderers and murdered are forced to navigate a lonely, unspoken grief,

The courtroom doors, the heavy gavel,
Watch years of love and hope unravel.
A stranger’s blood, a lifetime lost,
But parents pay a heavy cost.
They bear the shame, the quiet blame,
The sudden curse upon their name.
While one child sits behind a grate,
Two lives are crushed by secondhand hate

#1. Patricia Krenwinkel's parents
#2. Leslie Van Houten's mother
#3. Bobby Beausoliel's parent's images scrubbed from internet
#4. Voytek Frykowski's family
#5. Sharon Tate's father
#6. Jay Sebring's family
#7. Susan Atkins' father, requested face be shielded from camera
#8. Steven Parent's family
#9. Tex Watson's mother

u/Impressive_Review — 9 days ago