A man named Minero once said something that stuck with me:

"Some scientists find the concept goes against all the conditioning and training that they have ever had regarding the nature of consciousness."

"There is a risk or a fear... that the work that they are doing all of a sudden is less meaningful."

"When a scientist has spent 20 to 30 years building a theory, and a new discovery threatens to make that work obsolete... they fight it to the death."

He wasn't talking about shifting or OBEs specifically.

But he might as well have been.

But First: Some Scientists Do Believe

To be fair, not all scientists resist.

Some of the greatest minds in history were open to consciousness leaving the body.

Dr. Sam Parnia director of critical care research at NYU Langone Health has spent decades studying near-death experiences and out-of-body phenomena. His AWARE studies have documented verified perceptions from patients clinically dead with no brain activity.

Dr. Bruce Greyson former professor of psychiatry at the University of Virginia began as a skeptic. He thought NDEs were hallucinations. After decades of research, he changed his mind. His book After documents thousands of cases where patients reported verifiable information they could not have known without being outside their bodies.

Dr. Raymond Moody  coined the term "near-death experience" in 1975. His work launched the serious academic study of OBEs.

Dr. Charles Tart  a leading parapsychologist conducted controlled experiments on out-of-body experiences in the 1960s and 1970s, finding evidence that some OBErs could correctly perceive targets placed outside their physical range of sight.

Dr. Robert Monroe  founder of the Monroe Institute spent decades researching and inducing OBEs through Hemi-Sync technology. His work directly influenced the CIA's Gateway Report.

The University of Virginia has an entire Division of Perceptual Studies studying consciousness, OBEs, and phenomena that suggest awareness is not confined to the brain.

These scientists exist. They publish in peer-reviewed journals. They just get less funding and less media attention than the skeptics.

So no, science itself isn't closed to this.

But the establishment? The mainstream? The grant committees and tenure boards?

That's a different story.

The Inconvenient History

Every major paradigm shift in science faced vicious resistance. The pattern is always the same:

Galileo (1633) proved the Earth wasn't the center of the universe. The Roman Inquisition declared heliocentrism "formally heretical," forced him to renounce his discoveries under threat of torture, and placed him under house arrest for the rest of his life.

Ignaz Semmelweis (1840s) discovered that doctors washing their hands with chlorine solution reduced childbed fever mortality from 98 to 12 deaths per 1,000 births. Other doctors mocked him, destroyed his career, and had him committed to an asylum where he was beaten and died from an infection in his right hand at 47 years old.

Alfred Wegener (1912) proposed continental drift. Geologists called it "delirious ravings" and pseudoscience. They rejected his theory for 50 years not because the evidence was weak, but because he was an "outsider" to their field and his ideas clashed with what they already believed. The theory only gained acceptance in the 1950s after new evidence emerged and the older generation retired.

This pattern is so consistent that physicist Max Planck famously observed:

>"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."

Colloquially? "Science advances one funeral at a time."

A 2019 MIT study confirmed Planck was right: when prominent life scientists die, their subfields see an 8.6% increase in highly cited research by newcomers who had previously been excluded.

Science doesn't advance through open-mindedness. It advances through generational replacement.

What This Means for Shifting & OBEs

If shifting and OBEs are real — truly real — it doesn't just add to what scientists know. It destroys entire fields:

• Neuroscience as currently taught: consciousness is produced by the brain. Shifting and OBEs say awareness exists independent of the brain.
• Physics as currently taught: you are here, in one location. Shifting says you can be aware of a completely different reality, with a completely different body.
• Psychology as currently taught: dissociation and hallucination explain unusual experiences. Shifting says those experiences are more real than this one.

If shifting and OBEs are real, thousands of scientists have spent decades building careers on incomplete or wrong models.

Of course they resist.

Not because they're evil. Because they're human. Because their reputations, grant money, and life's work depend on the old paradigm being true.

The Fear Is Real

Minero is right about the fear:

• "If shifting is real, my life's work just became less meaningful."
• "If consciousness can leave the brain, my grant money might dry up."
• "If my colleagues find out I'm studying this, I'll lose my reputation."

These are legitimate fears. They're also not your problem.

You're not asking permission from a scientist to shift or have an OBE. You're asking your own awareness.

What This Doesn't Mean

This doesn't mean all science is wrong. It doesn't mean evidence doesn't matter.

It means: science is a human institution. And human institutions resist change.

The truth doesn't need a committee to approve it. The truth just is.

And if shifting and OBEs are true, the science will eventually catch up.

It might just take 50 years and a few funerals.

What You Can Take From This

When a skeptic demands "peer-reviewed evidence" for shifting or OBEs, you can smile and say:

"I understand why you need that. But the people who discovered hand-washing died in asylums. Galileo died under house arrest. Paradigms don't shift because of evidence. They shift when the people holding the old ones retire.

"And by the way there are already scientists studying this. Sam Parnia. Bruce Greyson. Charles Tart. Robert Monroe. The University of Virginia. They just don't get the funding or attention.

"I'm not here to convince your institution. I'm just here to live my experience.

"You can wait for the science to catch up.

"I'll be shifting."

The Bottom Line

Resistance to shifting and OBEs isn't proof that they're fake.

It's proof that shifting and OBEs — if real — are paradigm-shattering.

And the people who've built their lives on the old paradigm? They're not going to clap for you.

They're going to fight.

Not because you're wrong.

Because you're early.

Sources

• Parnia, S. – AWARE studies, NYU Langone Health – PubMed
• Greyson, B. – After (book) – University of Virginia Press
• Moody, R. – Life After Life (1975)
• Tart, C. – Controlled OBE experiments (1960s-70s) – Journal of Parapsychology
• Monroe, R. – Journeys Out of the Body (1971), Monroe Institute, CIA Gateway Report
• University of Virginia – Division of Perceptual Studies (DOPS)
• Galileo affair (1633) – Roman Inquisition, house arrest – Wikipedia
• Semmelweis, I. – Handwashing discovery, career destruction – BBC
• Wegener, A. – Continental drift rejection (1912) – UCSB Science Line, Slavov Lab
• Planck, M. – "Science advances one funeral at a time"
• MIT Study (2019) – 8.6% increase after prominent scientists die – EurekAlert!
• Kuhn, T. – Paradigm shifts, resistance from established scientists – Cambridge University Press

hi i made this after researching for months it helped me alot and i really hope help those who are like me (autistic) who must have proof to believe something .this going to be alot so strap in.

also my english is not my first language i made sure to not make any mistake but if i did please point it out

If you spend any time in shifting communities online, you've heard it. The same accusation, over and over, from skeptics who have never tried, never meditated, never sat in silence long enough to feel their own body disappear

"The void state isn't real. Shifting is just lucid dreaming. Everyone who claims they've shifted is either lying or delusional." 

 It sounds confident. It soundes scientific .it sounds like the final word from someone who knows.

Except for one problem. 

The same "void state" that shifters describe today  pure awareness, no body, no thoughts, just consciousness floating in infinite stillness  has been documented, practiced, and perfected for over five thousand years. By monks who never used TikTok. By sages who never scrolled through Reddit. By mystics in India, China, Egypt, Tibet, and the Middle East who had no way to communicate with each other, and yet came to the exact same conclusion.

Either every single one of them was lying too... or the void state is one of the most real, most verified, most consistently reported phenomena in human history.

Part One: What Even Is the Void State??

Before we go back in time , let’s get clear on what we’re talking about today.

In modern shifting terminology, the void state is a deep meditative state where:

• You remain fully conscious, but lose all awareness of your phisical body 
• Your eyes are closed, relaxed, with no urge to open them
• A floating sensation
• Feeling of being pure consciousness without a form 
• Visualization becomes effortless

When shifters reach the void state, they report being able to set intentions for their Desired Reality (DR) with incredible ease. Some shift directly from the void. Others use it to manifest specific changes in their Current Reality (CR).

The void state is not sleep. It's not a dream. It's not unconsciousness. It's what remains when everything else falls away ; when the body goes numb, the inner monologue goes silent, and all that's left is awareness itself.

Now. let me show you where else this exact state appears.

Part Two: The Upanishads ;The Original Void Shifters (800-200 BCE)

The Upanishads are ancient Indian philosophical texts. Written in Sanskrit roughly 2,500 years ago, they represent some of the oldest and deepest explorations of human consciousness ever recorded. 

There are about 108 Upanishads total, with 10-13 considered major. But their core message is simple enough to fit in one sentence, even if its implications take lifetimes to understand:

Your individual consciousness is not separate from universal consciousness .

The book's central question is deceptively simple , what is consciousness and what are its states? From this question it builds one of the most radical and precise maps of human awareness ever written.

It begins by identifying four states of consciousness that every human being moves through. The first is ordinary waking life the external world experienced through the five senses. In shifting language this is the CR, the current reality. The second is the dream state where consciousness turns inward and generates its own complete reality from within. This is where most shifting attempts begin, in that threshold between waking and sleep where the transition sensations arise. The third is deep dreamless sleep where all individual experience dissolves into formless rest.

The fourth state is where the Mandukya becomes extraordinary. Called Turiya, meaning simply the fourth, it is described as the background awareness that underlies and contains all three other states. It has no inside or outside. No boundary between self and everything else. It cannot be described in words because language itself belongs to the other three states.

What makes this directly relevant to shifting is what the Mandukya says about the relationship between waking and dreaming reality. It argues that the CR and the DR are fundamentally equal in nature. Both are experiences arising within the same consciousness. Neither is more ultimately real than the other. The world you experience as solid and external is at its deepest level as constructed by consciousness as any dream. This is not a metaphor or a comfort it is the central philosophical argument of the entire text.

The book also maps the four states onto the sacred sound AUM. The A corresponds to waking, the U to dreaming, the M to deep sleep, and the silence after the sound to Turiya. By following AUM inward through its three phases and resting in the silence that remains, the practitioner moves through the states of consciousness deliberately from CR awareness through the dream threshold and into something deeper. Shifters who use AUM as part of their practice before scripting and visualization are doing something the Mandukya described thousands of years ago.

• The A sound anchors you in waking awareness ; where you are right now
• The U sound carries you into the dream state ; the internal world of sleep
• The M sound dissolves into deep formlessness ; dreamless , unconscious rest
• Then you rest in the silence after  that silence is Turiya ; the beyond waking, beyond dreaming, beyond deep sleep

 

Sounds familiar ??

And the most famous line from the Upanishads? Tat tvam asi. "You are that." Your consciousness an universal consciousness are the same thing. Which means every reality you could ever want to shift to? Already within you. Always has been.

 Perhaps the most important insight for anyone who shifts is the Mandukya's insistence that Turiya is not somewhere you travel to. It is the background awareness already present beneath every experience. The CR and the DR both arise within it. This means the access point between realities is not far away or difficult to reach  it is the ground of awareness itself, always already available, requiring not effort but recognition.

Part Three: The Yoga Vasishtha — Parallel Realities, Confirmed (750 BCE approx.)

If the Upanishads describe the state, the Yoga Vasishtha describes the cosmology that makes shifting possible.

One passage from this ancient text has stuck with me since I first read it. I'm going to quote it at length, because it deserves to be seen in full:

"O Rama, in the past there have been millions of Brahmas, Sivas, Indras, and Narayanas. However, even the creations of these gods were but the jugglery of Maya... In some universes Brahma is the supreme deity, in others it is the Sun, Indra, Narayana, or Shiva. In some universes the earth is filled with trees, in others with people or with mountains. Somewhere the earth is of mud or clay, elsewhere it is rocky or golden or coppery. One may count the rays of the sun; but it is impossible to count the number of universes that exist."

Let me translate that into shifting terminology.

• Universes with different supreme deities : realities with diffrent fundamental rules
• Earth made of gold or copper : level 4 universes (diffrent physics, different materials , different laws)
• Impossible to count the number of universes : infinite drs .every possible reality exists.

The text goes even further, describing what sounds exactly like a shifting experience :

   "I decided to enter into samadhi again. I silenced the mind and the senses. I merged in the infinite consciousness. I saw reflected in that consciousness the image of countless universes. I was able to go anywhere and to see everything... Some were coming into being, others were perishing... There were different elements in each; they were inhabited by different types of beings... some had other universes within them; in some there were creatures you would not believe possible to exist."

 Samadhi is the practice of merging with consciousness itself — the void state. And from that state, the observer witnesses infinite realities. Sound like shifting? That's because it is shifting. Just with ancient Sanskrit vocabulary. 

Part Four: The Bhagavad Gita — Detach From the Ego

The Bhagavad Gita (part of the larger Mahabharata epic, dated around 500-200 BCE) is often read as a spiritual conversation between Prince Arjuna and the god Krishna. But underneath the divine dialogue is a practical manual for consciousness shifting. 

The Gita teaches : 

• Detachment from identity : you are not the “self” you think you are .
• Detachment from outcomes : act without clinging to results .
• The ego is not real : what you call “I” is temporary and constructed .

Why is this relevant to shifting? Because shifting requires letting go of your CR identity. If you believe you are only your CR self  your body, your history, your problems then leaving that reality feels impossible. But when you understand, as the Gita teaches, that your ego is just a temporary costume, suddenly moving to a DR becomes not only possible but natural.

Part Five: The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali — When the Mind Stops

The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali (compiled around 400 CE) is a collection of 196 aphorisms that systematically map the terrain of human consciousness.

The most famous line is the second sutra:

   Yoga chitta vritti nirodha : "Yoga is the cessation of the fluctuations of the mind."

When the fluctuations stop, when the endless chattering inner monologue finally quiets down, what remains? According to Patanjali: pure awareness without disturbance.

Thats it thats the void state.described in two thousand year old sanskrit in four words.

The Yoga Sutras go on to describe the stages of meditative absorption (samadhi), where the meditator loses awareness of their body, then loses awareness of their thoughts, then loses awareness of the distinction between "self" and "object of meditation," until only pure consciousness remains.

Every shifting method that involves meditation? Every guided void state track on YouTube? Every technique that tells you to "let go of your body and focus only on your intention"? You can trace its lineage directly back to texts like the Yoga Sutras.

Part Six: Tibetan Buddhism  The Clear Light and the Book of the Dead

Tibetan Buddhism offers perhaps the most detailed map of the void state, particularly in the Tibetan Book of the Dead (Bardo Thodol).

According to this text, immediately after death, every being enters a state called the Clear Light (Ösel). In this state:

• There is no body 
• No thoughts
• No physical world,infinite
• Just awareness ,empty, yet aware

Sounds familiar ?

The Tibetan Book of the Dead explains that if you recognize this state, stay calm, and do not react with fear, you achieve liberation. You see reality as it truly is. But if you panic which most people do, because ego dissolution is terrifying when you're not prepared you fall back into form, identity, and illusion. Back into the physical world. 

Shifters describe this exact dynamic. How many times have you read: "I felt myself detaching from my body, my thoughts went silent, the world dissolved, and then I got scared and snapped back"? That's the Tibetan Clear Light meeting an unprepared consciousness.

The Tibetan tradition doesn't just describe the state — it teaches how to enter it consciously, through advanced meditation practices. And the instruction that appears again and again is this: Do not fear it. Do not react. The moment you do, you lose it.

Part seven : The CIA Gateway Report ; Consciousness as Hologram

Now we jump forward to 1983. A United States Army Lieutenant Colonel named Wayne M. McDonnell submits a classified report to his commanders at Fort Meade. His task: analyze the "Gateway Experience"  a training program developed by the Monroe Institute designed to induce out-of-body states through brain hemisphere synchronization (Hemi-Sync).

McDonnell spent months researching quantum mechanics, biomedical engineering, and theoretical physics. His conclusion?

Human consciousness is not confined to the brain. It is a holographic field that can transcend time, space, and physical reality.

The report, declassified in 2003, describes:

• The universe as an “ extraordinarily complex system of energy fields”
• Matter as an illusion ; solid objects are actually oscillating energy grids 
• Human consciousness as a function of energy interaction 
• The brain as a hologram that attunes to the universal hologram of reality 
• Out of body states as achievable through focused coherance of brainwave output

 

One of the most striking sections describes what happens when the body enters profound relaxation: the heartbeat creates a standing resonance wave at approximately 7-7.5 cycles per second. This resonance propagates into the earth's ionospheric cavity, effectively turning the human body into a coherent oscillator vibrating in harmony with the planet's electromagnetic field.

In that state, the report says, "the seat of consciousness" can move outside the physical body. The boundaries between self and environment dissolve.

Thats the void state 

Part eight: The Holographic Universe — Pribram and Bohm

The Gateway report draws heavily on two scientists: Karl Pribram, a neuroscientist at Stanford University, and David Bohm, a physicist at the University of London.

Their theories, working together, form a complete model of how shifting could be scientifically possible.

Bohm's physics: The universe is not made of separate particles. It is a single, undivided whole  an "implicate order"  where everything is connected and everything contains everything else. What we see as separate objects (including separate realities) are just projections from this deeper, unified field.

Pribram's neuroscience: The brain does not store memories in specific locations. Instead, it processes information holographically  meaning every piece of memory is distributed across the whole brain. A small fragment of brain tissue contains the pattern of the whole memory, just like a small piece of holographic film contains the whole image.

Put together: The brain is a hologram. The universe is a hologram. And the two attune to each other through energy exchange. Consciousness is not produced by the brain the brain receives consciousness like a radio receives signals.

When shifters say "I'm not shifting my body, I'm shifting my awareness," they are describing Pribram and Bohm's model in colloquial language.

Part Thirteen: Neville Goddard ; Facts Overflow the World

In the mid-20th century, a mystic named Neville Goddard (1905-1972) taught a simple, radical idea: Imagination creates reality.

Not metaphorically .literally .

Neville taught that the world you experience is an outpicturing of your inner assumptions. Change your assumptions really change them, not just intellectually but at the level of felt sensation and your reality must change to match.

In one of his lectures, "Facts Overflow the World," Neville describes his own shifting experiences. He talks about being in a parallel world that felt as real and tangible as this one. He describes visiting a reality where he could meet people who were dead in his main reality. He even talks about a world where he could stop time.

These are not metaphors for Neville. These are direct reports of shifting.                                                           

Neville's method is almost identical to the void state: relax into a drowsy, meditative state (he called it "state akin to sleep" or SATS), lose awareness of your physical body, then visualize your desired scene with sensory vividness. Fall asleep in that feeling.

Every shifter today using SATS? You're practicing Neville's method. And Neville was drawing from the same ancient well as the Upanishads, Taoism, and Tibetan Buddhism.

Part Fourteen: The Scientific Evidence Is Catching Up

Now we have scientific papers on : 

• The holographic principle ; the universe might be a two dimensional information structure projected as 3d reality .
• Non local consciousness; studies on remote viewing, telepathy, and near-death experiences suggest awareness is not bound to the brain .
• Meditation induced altered states; fMRI studies show experienced meditators can voluntarily shut down the default mode network (the brain's "self" center), producing ego dissolution and non-dual awareness.

That default mode network shutdown? That's the neurological correlate of the void state. When your brain stops generating the "me" narrative, what's left is pure awareness no body, no thoughts, no identity. Just consciousness.

The science is not there yet to fully explain shifting. But the direction of evidence is unmistakable: consciousness is not what we thought it was.

Part Fifteen: Skeptics Will Say...

I know what the skeptics are thinking. I used to think it too.

"It's just lucid dreaming." Then why are the physiological markers different? Lucid dreaming occurs during REM sleep. The void state occurs while the body is awake but deeply relaxed.

"It's just dissociation." Dissociation is a trauma response, often distressing. The void state is chosen, calm, and often blissful.

"There's no scientific evidence." There's no scientific disproof either. And the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, especially when thousands of years of documentation exist.

"It's mass delusion." Delusions don't replicate across 5,000 years, across 12 different cultures with no contact, across languages that never borrowed from each other.

The simplest explanation is also the most radical: the void state is real. Shifting is real. And every mystical tradition on Earth has been telling us this since before writing was invented.

Part Sixteen: Why This Matters for Your Shifting Practice

If you've read this far, you're not here for philosophy. You want to shift.

Here's what all this ancient and modern knowledge means for your actual practice:

1. The void state is not something you create. It's something you uncover. You don't build emptiness. You remove everything that's in the way — thoughts, tension, identity, effort. What's left is already there.

2. You don't need a "method." The Upanishads didn't have shifting methods. The Taoists didn't have guided meditations on YouTube. They had intention, relaxation, and letting go. That's still all you need.

3. Fear is the only real obstacle. The Tibetan Book of the Dead says it. The Gateway report implies it. The shifters confirm it. The moment you panic at the feeling of ego dissolution, you snap back. Learn to stay calm in the void. Trust the process.

4. Your DR is not "out there." The Yoga Vasishtha says all universes exist within consciousness. Neville says imagination creates reality. Bohm says the universe is an undivided whole. Your DR is not a separate place you have to travel to. It's a frequency you tune into.

Conclusion: The Oldest Truth in the World

Here's what I've learned from months of research, across ancient texts and modern documents, across quantum physics and CIA reports, across shifting communities and mystical traditions:

The void state is not new. Shifting is not new. The understanding that consciousness creates reality is not new.

What's new is the language. We say "CR" instead of "Maya." We say "DR" instead of "loka" or "realm." We say "void state" instead of "Turiya" or "Clear Light" or "Fana" or "Nun" or "the Cloud of Unknowing."

But the experience is identical. And it has been reported, practiced, and perfected by human beings for over five thousand years.

So when a skeptic tells you shifting isn't real, you can smile and thank them for their concern. And then you can get back to practice  because you know something they don't.

Not because you're special. Not because you're delusional. But because you've done the research. You've read the texts. You've sat in the silence.

And you know, in the same way the Upanishadic sages knew, the same way the Taoist masters knew, the same way the Tibetan Buddhists knew, the same way Neville Goddard knew, the same way the CIA analysts concluded:

You are not your body. You are not your thoughts. You are not your CR identity. You are pure awareness, infinite and formless, capable of experiencing any reality you can imagine.

The void has always been there. It will always be there. It is your natural state. Your original face before you were born. The kingdom of God within you.

All you have to do is stop. Breathe. Let go.

And remember.

Tat tvam asi.

You are that.

Credits

Primary research sources 

Ancient hindu Texts :

1. The Upanishads (circa 800-200 BCE) – specifically the Mandukya Upanishad, Chandogya Upanishad, and Brihadaranyaka Upanishad
2. The Yoga Vasishtha (circa 750 BCE - 500 CE) – Sthiti Prakaranam (Section 4), Utpatti Prakaranam (Section 3), Nirvana Prakaranam (Section 6)
3. The Bhagavad Gita (circa 500-200 BCE) – part of the Mahabharata
4. The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali (circa 400 CE)
5. The Bhagavata Purana (circa 800-1000 CE) – specifically verses 10.87.41 and 6.16.37

Taoist Texts : 

1. Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu (circa 4th century BCE)
2. Zhuangzi by Zhuang Zhou (circa 4th-3rd century BCE)

Buddhist Texts : 

1. The Tibetan Book of the Dead (Bardo Thodol) – traditionally attributed to Padmasambhava (circa 8th century CE)
2. The Heart Sutra (Prajñāpāramitā Hṛdaya)
3. The Diamond Sutra (Vajracchedikā Prajñāpāramitā Sūtra)
4. The Lankavatara Sutra
5. The Platform Sutra by Huineng (8th century CE)
6. The Gateless Gate (Wumenguan) by Wumen Huikai (1228 CE)

Modern sources  : 

Neville Goddard (1905-1972) : 

• Lecture: "Facts Overflow the World"
• The State Akin to Sleep (SATS) technique
• Various lectures on imagination and consciousness

The CIA Gateway Report (1983):

• Title: "Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process"
• Author: Lieutenant Colonel Wayne M. McDonnell
• Declassified: 2003
• Document Number: CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5

Shifting community sources : 

Terminology and Frameworks : 

Amino (shifting communities)

TikTok (shifting content creators)

Tumblr (shifting blogs)

Quora (shifting discussions)