u/Individual_Pace2299

How to escape the 12h using your Jupiter placement

As a 12h sun/mercury in Taurus, I just recently came to realization that what usually saves me from the gloominess and loneliness of this house is my Jupiter in the 9h.

The 9th house in astrology represents:

- higher learning

- long distance travel

- philosophy

- religion/spirituality

- worldview/belief systems

Whenever my 12h placements try to suffocate me especially in the context of my outside world/social life, I usually retreat and find my solace in books, articles, foreign culture/languages, foreign media, and travel. I also write essays and create social media posts for foreign audiences. (mainly English speaking audiences – I am a Southeast Asian living in Asia and English is not my first language)

I also consider myself a lifelong learner because most of my childhood and adolescence years were disrupted by too much expectations and rush hours. I didn't have the time and space to think clearly. Only now that I'm almost 30, I can start thinking and doing things for myself.

I'd like to emphasize how much the 9th house has blessed me effortlessly with many things that most people from the similar backgrounds would have difficulty accessing such as openness and flexibility to accept different opinions, thoughts, and belief systems. Being exposed to foreign culture for long term is also one of them.

I'd consider myself financially lucky to have the capacity to fulfill my 9h Juno's purpose too but even if I didn't have the means to travel and stay in a foreign country for long, I can still solely rely on the internet and other more affordable resources to help me realize it.

For the record, I spent a total of 6 years living in 3 different major cities in 3 different countries, and the only continent I haven't traveled to is pretty much Africa (excluding the Poles).

But what I'm trying to say is consider "escaping" your pain and sorrow inflicted by the 12h to where your Jupiter is located in your chart. After all, Jupiter is the planet of Dharma – the planet of compassion even during the times when you don't have one for yourself – I can assure you it will help so much with clarity and emotional relief.

Have you also had any good experiences tapping into your Jupiter to balance out the bad in your natal chart?

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u/Individual_Pace2299 — 3 days ago

As a 12th houser, you should sleep more...

I am a Taurus sun 12h, so safe to say I love my sleep. A lot.

But what I mean is if you have prominent 12h placements and you're struggling with life choices and direction, sleep can be such an underrated solution.

I noticed that whenever I get stuck with options, or whatever issue I struggle with in my waking life, my dreams would become much more vivid and metaphorical. But once I'm done with it, the dreams just automatically stop being dramatic and lucid. This house rules the unconscious and dreams, and it's the house of Pisces. That being said, tap into your unconscious mind more because oftentimes it always tries to tell your waking mind what to do and how to solve your problems, even when you don't see the connection at first.

Fyi, I am a Buddhist but I suck at meditating or praying because it feels too deliberate for me. Meanwhile, sleeping puts my mind in a more natural flow state. Sometimes, I even dream about the people I know and the internal struggles they're facing that I have no way of knowing until I actually ask them about it.

Do you as a 12th houser often experience vivid dreams as well? They might try to tell you something important about yourself and your world.

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u/Individual_Pace2299 — 11 days ago
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The whole trope of 12thhousers being scrutinized and alienated for no reason has so much to do with the fact that non 12thhousers are the ones being dishonest about who they are or their stances.

To illustrate, I know some people would look down on me at some point of my life but this person in particular stood out to me the most. It was 2014 when I just started college overseas. This person happened to be my classmate. Mind you that I did nothing, I knew nothing, and I had no interest in this person. I was basically just existing, minding my own business. Both of us were from the same country so it's not unusual for international students from the same country to kind of stick together especially when we were only 17 at the time.

She'd enthusiastically chat with other classmates while completely ignoring me whenever I tried to chime in. The first time she acted that way, I already got the memo. Not that I had the slightest interest in building a close friendship with her anyway, but I was just being courteous and tried to fit in.

Years of observing her attitude towards me and also hearing stories from my friends about her being a proud bully who attached her self worth to all things shiny–wealth, grades, status, and whatnot–I learned that my quiet, observant, frugal, and honest way of living kinda triggered the crap out of her because she grew up in a strict Christian household (another irony) and status-driven social environment that upholds reputation and superficiality. It's no wonder she tried too hard not to be associated with someone like me.

This is all behind me now but occasionally I'd still find this person hovering around my social media trying to peek at what I'm up to these days, which is kind of ironic considering in real life, she deliberately put on this disgusted expression whenever she came into contact with my presence, as if I were the demon spawn she read on the Bible lol.

People project onto us 12thhousers or act nasty for no reason, and that's inevitable. However, this doesn't mean you can just let yourself die as a martyr and do nothing about it. The best course of action is to have all the facts and evidence straight–since 12th house can fog your ability to discern–and try not to take things personally because what they do to you reflects who they are, not you.

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u/Individual_Pace2299 — 16 days ago

I saw a post on social media that said there are indicators in Astrology that make people "not meant to be successful in life" and even though the measure of success is subjective to each individual, I have several placements that resonate with my actual experience. I can't help but to focus on my mercury (taurus 12h) square Neptune 8h in Capricorn. I always struggle with inconsistency, bad decisions, distractions that makes my life path very non-linear. Fogginess and confusion about directions though clarity has become apparent as I get older.

I also have the Sun in 12h and the chart makes a grand earth trine with 4h virgo stellium (moon, mars, NN, Lilith). South Node in 10h Pisces (some people said this indicates a past life full of hard work). I always feel all of my ambition and potential are sort of bottled up with nowhere to go, and the universe seems to conspire against me so that I can just chill and become the passenger princess lol.

Anyone dealing with the same problem as well? What is your solution to this?

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u/Individual_Pace2299 — 18 days ago
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I saw this post on TikTok today and I can say how much it resonates with my past experiences dealing with friends, colleagues, etc. like people always find a way or a reason to villainize you even when you practically do nothing wrong.

One of the recurring patterns that usually appear in my social life is people would quietly hold animosity toward me thinking I wouldn’t be able to sense that. One day I would say or do something that strikes a chord and suddenly they just stop responding or talking to me. In this case, I can get quite opinionated and judgmental (Virgo moon-mars) especially when it comes to something I believe in or truths that I think are worth fighting for, so it’s like “I’ll give you a reason to reveal yourself!”

The isolation and the feeling of observing society from the outside can be quite difficult to get through as we’ve all been conditioned to fit into society, but once you’re comfortable with yourself and work on your spirituality, the constant need for human connection outside of yourself becomes a lot less frequent. The isolation will make a lot more sense than attempts to force a connection that doesn’t exist to begin with.

However, the elusiveness of the 12th house can be tricky as well. I’ve lost a friend because I misread the situation and got influenced by the other person (who is also a 12th houser—we are no longer friends) to isolate me further from my social circle other than herself. If you haven’t mastered the themes of this house, you may also find yourself constantly looking behind your back and becoming so paranoid of the hidden enemies, you begin to lose yourself and become the “villain” just to avenge the people who may or may not do you wrong.

So, it’s important to learn how to be discerning and have a strong sense of self. (which I know is exactly the main challenge we 12th housers need to face.)

Additionally, as a 12th houser, I always try my best to not fall into the victimhood trap by reminding myself that people aren’t always consciously aware of their own feelings and actions, and we’re much more driven by our biases than we realize. So, again, once you have a grounded sense of self, you can give them the benefit of the doubt and not feel obliged to prove or validate yourself because the only validation you ever need is from your inner self.

u/Individual_Pace2299 — 22 days ago