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What's your favourite one off interactions? (Spoilers Main)

One off or just short interactions that we don't see much off but you enjoyed.

Brienne and Gendry was one I really liked. Her POV where she's mesmerised by this renly lookalike and he just responds bluntly. Her mind was racing through his ancestry and remembering that Stannis didn't lie about the twincest while he's working away at the forge.

Catelyn and Jaime in the Riverrun prison has to be up there. Such great dialogue between interesting characters. The back and forth was peak and Jaime added the humour too.

Jaime and Brynden "Blackfish" Tully might be my favourite. Loved every second of it and Jaime needed a humbling after a life of arrogance. The Blackfish stood on business at his old age and in the face of a powerful enemy

Jaime - "I would have slain Robb Stark in the Whispering Wood, if I could have reached him. Some fools got in my way. Does it matter how the boy perished? He's no less dead, and his kingdom died when he did."

Blackfish - "You must be blind as well as maimed, ser. Lift your eyes, and you will see that the direwolf still flies above our walls.".

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u/Inevitable-Mix6089 — 7 days ago
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How would you try to bring the Iron Islands into the realm? (Spoilers Main)

The Iron Islands are officially part of the Seven Kingdoms but they're so separate from everyone else that it doesn't feel like it.

They've also been the biggest nuisance since the Conquest, with the recent Greyjoy Rebellion, Dagon raiding and Daltons reaving in the Dance era.

Would you replace the Greyjoys and hope the next rulers are more subservient?

Would you give them a say in the governing of the realm? The master of ships position on the small council would suit an Iron Islander. They generally have more experience of sea faring and are raised to fight on a deck.

Would you arrange marriage alliances for them? Alliances to mainland great Houses would hopefully have an effect on future lords of the Iron Islands. They may get a long better with them and therefore there'd be less reaving against mainlanders. Also having extended family/alliances may lead to wardships between these Houses to further increases the connection between them.

More rogue options

Give them land on the mainland like Rodrik the Reader and Asha wanted. Rodrik believed that would fix some of their issues but he's uniquely level headed. Highly doubt any other kingdoms would give up land for them.

Allow them to reave outside of Westeros. If they have to get it out of their systems it's better for it to be on another continent. Though it'd affect relations with the free cities in the east.

Try and convert them from following the Drowned God and the Old Way.

Any other suggestions?

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u/Inevitable-Mix6089 — 9 days ago
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Parts of the timeline that don't feel right (Spoilers Main)

We all know George is terrible with the ages of young characters so let's try to avoid those.

Euron being older than Victarion feels wrong for some reason. Victarion doesn't give the vibe of a younger brother who gets picked on by his elders. It also makes Euron winning the Kingsmoot the "right" decision given Theon's whereabouts and misogyny in the Iron Islands.

Talking about Theon, him being 3-4 years older than Robb was a shock when I found that out. He seems like he would be the same age as Robb and Jon. I never got an older brother dynamic between him and Robb, if anything it would be like a same age classmates dynamic. A bit off topic, but what's even the plan with Theon's future if there's no wars. By the start of AGOT he's a fully grown man but still a ward to keep Balon in check. Can he only leave the North when Balon dies? Would he start a family in the North if he's there into his mid 20's?

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u/Inevitable-Mix6089 — 11 days ago

Anyone else feel like the Plantagenet dynasty has been suppressed in history?

I got into Plantagenet history after reading the Sunne in Splendour by Sharon Penman because I was interested in the War of the Roses. Since then I've been reading her other books in the Plantagenet series and have been doing research of my own. I couldn't believe how interesting the era was, it felt like something straight out of a movie.

Before I started actively reading and researching, as a complete casual in history who was born and raised in the UK, I can honestly tell you I'd never heard of the Plantagenets. It somehow never came up in school or everyday life compared to the Tudors and Victorian era. I remember brief mentions of the Roman era, Anglo Saxons, Vikings and Normans, pretty much solely because of the Battle of Hastings.

I'd heard about the House of York and House of Lancaster , Richard III and Richard the Lionheart but never knew that they were all part of the Plantagenet history. I've been telling my family and friends about some of the extended history and they're just as shocked as I was. They'd heard about the same big names I mentioned earlier but not a peep about the dynasty they belonged to. There's also the hundred years war, latter part of the anarchy, signing of the magna carta, murder of Thomas Becket and so much more that people may casually know about, not knowing the era it all took place during.

Anyone else have a similar experience? If not please share your experiences. If yes, is it just a coincidence, something that was intended or is there another justification entirely?

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u/Inevitable-Mix6089 — 13 days ago
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The timeline for Aegon III and Viserys II lives is hilarious (spoilers main)

Let's start from the maidens day ball in 133AC where a 13 year old Aegon III picks 6 year old Daenaera Velaryon to be his wife. They got married that same year but didn't consummate the marriage till she turned 16.

In 134 AC, Alyn Velaryons shows up with treasure from Lys and it's revealed to be Aegon III's younger brother Viserys. They haven't seen each other in 4 years and he was presumed dead. In this time however he married Larra Rogare and as of 134 AC, he was 12 and she was 19.

Already we've got a 14 year old and 12 year old pair of brothers being married to a 7 year old and 19 year old but it doesn't stop there.

In 135 AC, Viserys has a son who becomes Aegon IV,.

In 136 AC, Aegon III's regency ends and he can rule as king because he turned 16.

In 138 AC, Aemon the Dragonknight is born and in 139 AC, Naerys is born.

By 139 AC, Aegon is 19 has ruled for 3 years and his wife is 12 years old. On the other hand, Viserys is 17 and has 3 kids, his wife is 24 but has left him and their children children to return to Lys. Pretty much the westerosi equivalent to divorce.

Jump forward to 143 AC, Aegon is 23 and Daenaera had turned 16 so now the marriage can be consummated. Later that year they have their first child as Daeron is born. Viserys is 21 and is a single father rasing an 8 year old, 5 year old and a 4 year old.

The contrast is killing me and I can't imagine the funny/awkward situations in the Red Keep. I'm nobody to question GRRM but surely there's another way to make the timelines add up.

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u/Inevitable-Mix6089 — 13 days ago
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My picks:

Emmon Frey - A complete dweeb that annoys everyone he meets. Constantly complaining during the siege of Riverrun whilst being useless. Somehow married Twyins sister and that's the only reason he's relevant.

Lysa Arryn - Psychotically obsessed with Littlefinger that she ignored the perils of her own family. The castle she was raised in was attacked, her brother was captured, her sister and nephew were in a war and she didn't care. She set Ned up with the letter saying the lannisters poisoned Jon Arryn. She singlehandedly ended the STAB alliance or at least the STA part.

Robert Baratheon - A complete waste of space once he became king. Not involved at all in raising his children. Constantly drunk and sleeping around. Didn't do anything about the trouble brewing under his nose.

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u/Inevitable-Mix6089 — 18 days ago
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Is this all based on the Davos treatment? Cutting the top fingerbones from one hand of a smuggler after he saved the garrison of Storms End.

Does the Davos treatment warrant such a description? He also knighted and gave lands to him. I'm trying to think of what else he's done but can't recall anything. If it's based on advice he's given on the small council it's surprising that Catelyn would refer to him as such.

Stannis says he wasn't asked for his input following Roberts Rebellion but he would've suggested sending Jaime to the Wall, like Ned. I'd imagine he had a more stern approach to the Greyjoy rebellion but that would've been good advice and I doubt anyone on the mainland is a Balon Greyjoy sympathiser.

Am I missing something?

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u/Inevitable-Mix6089 — 23 days ago