u/Infamous-Glass-6538

There are already plenty of theories that Marika discovered the truth that the Fingers' guidance was not actually guided by the Greater Will, causing her to start plotting against them, leading to the Night of the Black Knives and shattering of the Elden Ring.

Ranni similarly says that she refuses to be controlled by the guidance of the Fingers. Ymir also says that the Fingers were broken from the start.

My question is, what harmful guidance did the Fingers give, that disillusioned Marika upon later learning that the Greater Will was not actually present? What could be so bad that Ranni does not want anything to do with them?

Through the Fingers Marika achieved her vengeance against the Hornsent. She became ruler of the Lands Between. All of Marika's actions seem explainable through her own self-interest, and it does not seem that she was ever forced by the Fingers to do anything.

The possibilities I can think of are these below. Which do you think is more likely?

1. The Fingers guided the Hornsent to slaughter the shaman village to produce a saint. (But there is no evidence of this)
2. Years after Marika gave destined death to Malekith, she wanted to retrieve it as she saw the consequences on the world. But Malekith rebuffed her on orders of the Fingers since he is a shadow. This is why Marika had to "gull" Malekith to steal destined death from him despite being the one to give it to him. (But why would the Fingers be obsessed with suppressing destined death when there is no record of them doing the same during Placidusax's reign? Could the Fingers' change in attitude be related to the the castration of Metyr?)
3. The Fingers appointed Empyreans after Marika started asking about releasing death again. The only reason the Fingers would need to choose successors to an eternal queen in a deathless world is if they wanted to show her she was replaceable. This showed both Marika and Ranni that the Fingers were willing to eliminate them at any time.