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Creative Writing

Just an analogy to help people better understand FSD.

Many people are familiar with ChatGPT and Grok and how they can take a prompt and create a written article from that prompt. This tech is based on a LLM (large language model), and the result is basically an intelligent google search of everything input into the LLM and spit back out with good writing form and grammar.

If you then hand in that well written grammatically correct paper in your creative writing class, you will probably get an "F".

The teacher (human) will recognize that your well written paper is neither creative or unique. AI slop.

FSD is built upon a model that is based on billions of miles of traffic video rather than billions of word of text.

And it turns out that 95% of our driving is AI slop and good grammar will handle it fine. It's all that driving you do day-to-day, and forget.

But that last 5% is creative and unique.

We do not have any tech yet for creative and unique. At the start of this journey to "unsupervised" driving we didn't realize that 5% (the edge cases) was that hard.

But we also didn't realize how good 95% would be either. We thought it had to be 100%.

But here we are in the age of Supervised Full Self Driving.

I hope we can move past the era of "Unsupervised by the end of the year".

It is not going to be the end of the year. I don't even think it will be by the end of my life.:)

But 95% is really useful.

And regarding Musk's enthusiasm and promises. I do feel for the people who were paying $8k for unsupervised FSD back then. That was a mistake. But we are here because Musk skipped all of the levels and went for level 5, while the other manufacturers stayed at level 2 and until Lane Keeping was perfect, they wouldn't go further.

Well Lane Keeping will also always be supervised for some time.

So I am happy that we (Tesla owners) have supervised drive you everywhere from point A to point B, rather than supervised lane keeping.

This was the king just a year ago, GM Super Cruise, lane keeping on select highways, SUPERVISED.

Check out the select highway map ...

Super Cruise Hands-Free Highway Driving Tech | OnStar Services

Scroll down to the map. Not only is it infinitely sparse compared to FSD, if you zoom in, there are a lot of gaps on those select highways. Probably intrersections etc.

Supervised Lane Keeping or Supervised Drive you Everywhere

Kind of an easy choice, IF you are ok with supervised autonomy

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u/Infamous-Pilot5932 — 6 days ago
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Tesla Self-Certifies Level 4 Autonomous Vehicles in Texas

Tesla Self-Certifies Level 4 Autonomous Vehicles in Texas

This is a pretty fair article regarding progress with the Cybercabs in Austin. I say fair because it states the key differences between consumer FSD and cab FSD, and these differences apply to Waymo the same.

Mapping - The cabs operate in finite areas that are mapped in more detail and the maps are kept up to date with construction and changes.

Remote Assistance - There is a team of remote assitants who can guide (not drive) the car when it encounters situations that it cannot solve.

Speed - Speed is more tightly controlled (no hurry or mad max)

Liability - Tesla assumes most of the liability

On the plus side, as far as I know, the cabs are operating on the same platform (HW4) as we are. The cabs may be using the front bumper camera, or not. There is really no definite info out there yet on that. Mine has one, but I know the earlier HW4s do not.

I am not posting this as a critic, just a realist. I was actually excited after reading the article, but at the same time knowing even if Tesla uses the cab model to bring unsupervised to the masses, it will take some time for the testing of the cabs first, and some time to remap more of the United States (or other countries), establish the infrastructure of remote assistants needed to "supervise" that many cars, and the costs. While Tesla will assume liability, they won't do that for free. They have already said that the monthly fee for FSD will go up as features are added. Also Tesla is ramping up their own insurance offering, and they could combine unsupervised FSD with the requirement that you buy their insurance as well. Nonetheless, there is a lot of costs and time in all of that above.

Worse case, like they did with Auto Pilot, they somehow weaken this Almost Unsupervised FSD that we now have to push us to pay for a much more expensive unsupervised FSD. Lol, and don't forget, no Hurry or Mad Max.:)

But this is all pretty far off. Well, maybe people who live in cities where the cabs will be running may get options first, and we can see how that goes and how much it costs. But widespread will take some time.

u/Infamous-Pilot5932 — 10 days ago