r/TeslaFSD

Just wanted to brag about how well 14.1 lite has been. After a couple hundred miles the random brake stabbing seems to be eliminated, the high speed highway swerve is 97% improved (a slight wobble here and there but night and day better). The only 2 things left are the parking logic issues and speed choices. Still makes terrible parking decisions but that seems to be fleet wide regardless of hardware. Still hate that it’ll go 20 over in hurry but max 7 over in standard. I want to go TEN over, period. Let me select that.

2022 model 3 lr awd Ontario Canada
I am a designer/cabinet maker and drive ~ 4000km per month.

Personal experience below:

12.6.4
Phantom braking was almost nonexistent.
City driving:
At stop signs, especially left turns and four-way stops, it was very hesitant. It would occasionally take the wrong path through roundabouts, but overall the city-driving logic was solid.
One thing I really disliked was that it tended to wait until the last moment before merging into the correct lane.
Highway:
The overall highway logic was clear and predictable. The UI could recognize HOV lanes, but FSD itself couldn’t seem to properly recognize or use them.
In Standard mode, it could maintain a reasonable speed even while staying in the middle lane. My main complaint was that acceleration for passing was slow.

14.0 lite
Phantom braking became much more frequent. I even had one incident in city driving where it suddenly braked hard despite having a clear view of the road and a vehicle following behind me.
City driving:
Lane positioning and lane-selection logic seem clearer. Stop-sign behavior is slightly better than V12, and roundabout handling is pretty decent.
Highway:
Honestly, it’s a disaster.
In Standard mode, it will sit in the middle lane at around 111 km/h max. it moves into the left lane to pass but accelerates painfully slowly. In Hurry mode, it moves into the left lane to pass but accelerates slowly, then stays in the passing lane forever.
Based on my driving habits, highway FSD is basically unusable for me right now. I’ve gone back to using Lane Keep instead.
I haven’t properly tested HOV behavior yet. If I manually merge into the HOV lane, FSD can stay in it.

14.1 lite
Phantom braking is still there, although it seems slightly less frequent.
I haven’t noticed any meaningful changes in city driving.
I also haven’t noticed any meaningful changes on the highway.

Personally, I think HW3 is completely outdated at this point. I don’t feel like distillation has really accomplished much for HW3. I’ve also driven the full, unrestricted version of FSD on newer hardware, and the difference is very obvious.

Hi everyone, been reading a lot about this topic on this group but need a final decision.

I bought my M3 right before new gen was announced and then a week later, Hertz flooded the market with used M3s no one was renting. Value of my M3 dropped from 45k to 35k in three weeks.

I love my Tesla but I feel like I am really missing out on FSD.

The car doesn’t have autopilot either.

My question is, is it worth spending $1500 to get autopilot computer (3.0) installed plus $99 a month (CAD) for HW3? Keep in mind that it’s either FSD with HW3 or nothing. We are planning to keep the car, do lots of long distance driving on highway during summer especially. And I am more interested in the additional safety measures fsd comes with.

Is it better to keep car as is, or spend $1500 and get FSD for long run. Might not be fair to compare hw3 to hw4 so maybe hw3 vs other makes with similar features. Again not going to sell or trade the car, value vs finance is too much of gap.

Larry Evans, journalist at CleanTechnica, wrote an article about my testdrives with XPENG VLA 2.0 (which he did too) and FSD of Tesla. A good analysis and a clear story. Funny are the reactions of mainly American readers in the comments of the article😀.
BTW Larry picked the picture…
BTW I can recommend to subscribe to their newsletter. A lot of news about technical innovation and developments.

By default, it's set to 2 minutes, which effectively calculates the fastest route, but sometimes not the route you want.

Maybe the route you want has:

• smoother roads,
• fewer turns,
• fewer stop signs,
• fewer traffic lights,
• no roadwork construction,
• no Flock cameras, etc.

By increasing the threshold to 10+ minutes, you won't have to disengage FSD just to make a specific turn you want, or to go past a highway exit you don't want.

Tesla Car Settings > Navigation > Online Routing > Reroute to save

I’ve put about 300 miles on my 2023 Model Y (HW3), and the difference from the last update is honestly huge.

Zero phantom braking, which was a constant issue with the last update.

Random accelerations are completely gone.

Lane centering is probably the biggest improvement. Before, it had constant micro adjustments to stay perfectly centered. Now it’s smooth, stays centered, and drives more naturally.

It also closes gaps much quicker when traffic speeds up instead of leaving enough room for a 747 to land.

I’ve mainly been using Hurry Mode and haven’t tested parking much.

For a relatively small update, I’m seriously impressed. The last version had me questioning FSD. This one is night and day so far. Hopefully it stays this way.

I understand FSD pricing in terms of early adopters to the later adopters in the general population (i.e. initial steep pricing for lifetime, all the way through the 99/mo price), but for balance b/w those who bought their Tesla with subscription FSD, especially those who missed out on Autosteer for free, do we think we'll ever see FSD priced say at $75/mo, bridging the middleground between Autosteer folks who pay $50 and FSD folks who missed it all and have to pay $99? Just curious where you all see this going.

Edit 1: Thank you all! I guess by “fair” I am anchoring current pricing to the current financial model of FSD, aka subscription soon after compared to creating the universe of lifetime vs. EAP vs. subscription users, and how each of those customers (first owners or buying used with FSD) perceive the Tesla ownership experience and cost.