We should stop giving Pro Palestinians the benefit of a doubt
I have been involved in debates about Israel Palestine regularly on this site ever since oct 7th, and while the crazy amounts of dishonestly among the Pro Palestinians makes it obvious that it is a hate driven cause, it's only when I stepped back a bit I realized that there was never even reason to think it wasn't in the first place
1. None of these people cared about any other event in the region
Israel is probably using more methods than anyone has ever used to avoid civilian casualties, and they call it a genocide, meanwhile their tax money funded the famine that killed 400k Yemenis, mostly children, and I literally can't remember them mentioning it a single time outside of "oh yeah that's bad too" kind of argument
400k dead in Sudan? nah, don't care
650k in Tigray? can't even point it on the map
2. What are they even supporting?
The Palestinian identity was created by Amin Haj Husseini, a friend of Hitler who used to tour the Nazi extermination camps, it was proceeded by Arafat who conducted the first and 2nd intifada, to Hamas who's charter calls for the extermination of all Jews worldwide (updated to "Zionists" later on) - it's not even like there was ever a Palestinian moderate movement that you could claim to support, Mahmoud Abbas is the closest thing to a Palestinian moderate we ever had and even he still runs the Pay for Slay system, and he is extremely unpopular because even that's not enough Jewish blood for the poor and oppressed Palestinians
3. "Anti Zionism is not Anti Semitism"
"I don't hate Mexicans, I just want Mexico to be completely destroyed and its inhabitants to be murdered to the last one by their insane members, but I don't have a problem with Mexicans who also want Mexican destroyed [even though I attack my Mexican neighbor every once in a while]"
4. the dishonesty is something you just don't see in any other conflict
Every event is judged in the worst light possible
Israel trying to fight a terror group wearing civilian clothes, fights in civilian infrastructure, among civilians - while giving humanitarian corridors, humanitarian zones, vaccinating Palestinian kids, providing constant aid and internet access, making sure the hospitals keep running etc etc - genocide, to them, since Israel is Jewish, this is described as an attempt at completely exterminating the population
Israel attacked by 7 Arab armies in an attempt at ACTUAL genocide, and kicks out those who attacked it - evil unprovoked ethnic cleansing, nakba
Israel goes into Syria to stop Julani's thugs house to house massacre of entire Druze families - Israel is trying to conquer Syria for greater Israel
"IDF soldiers don't rape Arab women due to racism" - imagine being in the wrong for NOT raping someone
Edit: Just gonna post it here as pre-emptive response to the genocide blood libel -
>You are just proving my point right now though, genocide is defined as the attempt to exterminate a population (ethnic/religious/national) either as a whole or from a geographic area
>Israel has been allowing in constant aid, 24/7 internet, designated humanitarian zones (and corridors to reach those zones, AND temporary ceasefires so civilians can reach the corridors), stopped the war to vaccinate 1m Palestinian kids off polio and the list is unending, meanwhile Hamas fights in civilian clothes and does everything in its power to get more Palestinians killed
>You need to be beyond stupid to think that this is how genocide looks like, and frankly, I am sick of pretending like you all collectively are idiots, you are not an idiot, you are a hateful person and you would never had called this very average urban war a genocide if Israel wasn't Jewish