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First written Sutra

First written Sutra

Zillion dollar question; when was the first Buddhist Canon presumably written down? I know there was a Council of the sort, then 2-3 traditions taking shape. So, mostly we have the Pali Canon ( Tipitaka) plus other exant Canons in Classical Chinese and other languages with some passages preserved in the ( presumably) original Pali. Historically some say Buddha Gautam did not speak Pali, a somewhat artificial language, but various languages from Sanskrit to Magadhi. Besides, his words were written down for the first time centuries after his preaching. That would make Buddhism different from other Religions like Christianity ( ancient but fragmentary gospel papyrs from first century CE are extant), Islam (in Sanaa very old copies of the Koran were found) or Sikhism ( very old copies of Adi Granth belonging to the last human Gurus). Yet, these Religions are all more recent than Buddhism and in the first 2 cases developed in dry climates where papyrs and papers can be preserved far longer. Also Buddhism is no "Religion of the Book" in the sense : I read some Pali Canon passages by myself, decide what I like, practice for one week before lunch and get Nibbana before gasoline prices go up another time. Spiritual guidance would be always advised , except one is interested more like a scholar or out of healthy curiosity. Anyway the question remains; can Gautam Buddha's "original" words still be found somewhere?

P.S. I remember a Tibetan Lama , presented like a scholar, remaining a bit confused by a similar question by a lady somewhere in Northern Italy or Southern France. Maybe because the Lama had a bad translator or maybe because in Tibetan Buddhism they do not care too much , they have also " treasure sutra" being revealed here and there....

u/JakkoMakacco — 9 days ago
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MIDDLE WAY ABOUT OSHO ?

While I still enjoy reading Osho's books and listening to his speeches, I personally find a bit weird that someone living nowadays may see this controversial thinker as a sort of infallible Guru. Reasons?

  1. After 50-40 years the world has changed a LOT: Osho spoke about different societies and different lifestyles. The same is true about Marx, Jesus Christ and Socrates ( just to name a few)
  2. Osho himself discouraged the cult of his own personality, especially after Rajneeshpuram failed
  3. Rajneeshpuram was a failure: maybe Osho was too optimistic about human nature
  4. Many prophecies like the one about half of humanity dying of AIDS did not (luckily) come true

However, you can still see a person as flawed and yet be inspired by what he/she did and say. So, I follow a middle way approach: I enjoy reading /listening the teachings but I do not see Osho ( or anyone else) as an Infallible Guru. Also because in that way it is very easy to hide one's weakness and insecurity behind the Guru, especially if you have never met the person you idolize. Anyone else who follows a similar approach? A friend of mine has recently met in North India and Nepal some young "Osho's sannyasis" who actually worshipped their Guru as a martyr and seemed to have idolized him like a Hindu God. But maybe that is just a small minority.

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u/JakkoMakacco — 3 months ago

GREAT NOVELS INSPIRED BY BUDDHISM?

Apart from Kerouac's novels, I can mention Dream of the Red Chamber, one of the most important novels in Chinese Literature. Any other suggestions? Please notice that I am not asking about religious texts but about literary masterpieces which are inspired by Buddhism but may also not directly mention Buddha or the Dharma.

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u/JakkoMakacco — 5 months ago