r/Osho

Boss its been more than 3 years following osho and his teachings, recently I got to visit multiple ashrams of osho and one thing I found out that people are now treating him as a god, devotional songs on him "o pyaare osho", followers saying "osho hamare saath hai" and even like idol worship type of things with his photo pretending that the photo is actually osho, lol. I think people are again missing the point. Its good to cherish a person but I feel its crossing that boundary and its more than that, like you can call it an idol worship. Also most of the people are just finding a community and recognition that see I am also a spiritual being, kinda sad that the point is being missed.

As Osho has said himself, when you listen to a master who is very narrow in their teaching, they are much easier to understand. But with Osho his message is so broad, so all encompassing, poetic, paradoxical, and touching all aspects of life. That makes his message much harder to grasp. But on the positive side, it also makes his message harder to turn into dogma and preaching.

You dont have to lose hobbies or interests. I love to make music , I love watching documentaries, I love going for walks, I love my personality. All those things are love and love is selfless. When you get interested in a deep topic, that interest brings you to pure Perceiving. So get lost in dance, get lost in Interests. That is the flow state. What's not flow state is to do something because you feel lack or fear or boredom. Center yourself first if you feel lack, then go for the walk or read the book AND MOST IMPORTANTLY when you go for that walk stay present. Usually when we feel lack during meditation we stop being present, we get lost in thought. So do alllll the things you love but with utter presence. It will feel more intimate, not less.

Personality and ego are not the same things either. Personality is the coloring or flavor of that localization of awareness in the dream. My personality is I love conspiracies, deep talks, horror, aliens, all sorts of things. That isnt ego. Ego is when awareness has a personality and identifies as the body/personality. Then the personalities diluted with ego, lack, fear. The personality will be moreso selfish and not creative and open.

Personality, hobbies, is how awareness expresses love. Its going to experience itself totally in all ways. Alllll personalities are personalities of The Self. In a dream it just appears to be divided up into many personalities because its subjectively experiencing itself from each localization of itself! Spirituality should make you feel more alive, more intimate with experince. Not less.

*I also understand words cannot truly express the infinite nature of reality. But we can point a finger toward the light and encourage others to see. I also understand that "i" is just an illusion. I wish you all the best, be Most Excellent to eachother! ✌️👁🧘‍♂️

While I still enjoy reading Osho's books and listening to his speeches, I personally find a bit weird that someone living nowadays may see this controversial thinker as a sort of infallible Guru. Reasons?

1. After 50-40 years the world has changed a LOT: Osho spoke about different societies and different lifestyles. The same is true about Marx, Jesus Christ and Socrates ( just to name a few)
2. Osho himself discouraged the cult of his own personality, especially after Rajneeshpuram failed
3. Rajneeshpuram was a failure: maybe Osho was too optimistic about human nature
4. Many prophecies like the one about half of humanity dying of AIDS did not (luckily) come true

However, you can still see a person as flawed and yet be inspired by what he/she did and say. So, I follow a middle way approach: I enjoy reading /listening the teachings but I do not see Osho ( or anyone else) as an Infallible Guru. Also because in that way it is very easy to hide one's weakness and insecurity behind the Guru, especially if you have never met the person you idolize. Anyone else who follows a similar approach? A friend of mine has recently met in North India and Nepal some young "Osho's sannyasis" who actually worshipped their Guru as a martyr and seemed to have idolized him like a Hindu God. But maybe that is just a small minority.

"Those who Know, Know nothing"... Doesn't imply that those who are aware of their being/Truth doesnt know anything at all about the nature of reality.

It doesnt imply "those who know, dont know anything at all. We can't know.". That is a misconception.

The phrase express how in the moment of being pure Awareness, pure Perceiving, pure Knowing, all Awareness knows is Perceiving/Knowing. There is no Mind to that Awareness which says "i am Awareness, that is a table, that is sky". That would be a label, Mind. Perceiving doesnt have activity/Mind to it in those moments, it isnt conceptualizing like Mind. So when we know ourselves as Awareness or in other words when we are Aware that we are Aware, we dont know what we are as in a object or shape or form. We know ourselves just as Perceiving, Being.

Most importantly, as soon as we say "i am Awareness, i am pure Knowing, that is a tree etc.." that is thought, thought is the activity of Awareness or in other words "Mind". Mind and Awareness are not two, Mind is simply the activity of Awareness. So Mind, the activity of Awareness will say "i am this, i am that" conceptualizing reality.

But from a place of pure Knowing, just Perceiving, being Aware that I am Aware- there is no labels, no conceptualization, there is only Knowing or Awareness/Perceiving. In the moment of No Mind, I am Aware that I am Aware, I know my Being but there is no labeling, no activity. Just Perceiving.

Much love.

Be Most Excellent to eachother ✌️👁

Awareness is like the illusion of space in the room. Space doesnt have a self, no objective qualities, no dimensions, no name, no weight. Because it is selfless it allows things to appear within it. If space didnt have a selfless dimensionless quality to it, objects couldn't appear within it. Awareness is just like that. As Buddha would say or any Nondual teacher "The self is selfless like a flame. A flame has no self yet it is a continuum.". Hence the candle you light at night is not the same flame in the morning, it is constantly changing, no self yet a continuum.

Because Awareness is shapeless, formless, "No-thing" Some-thing is possible. Hence when we have a dream at night, because awareness has no self, no form, no weight or shape it cant take form of any shape, any size, any object.

I am not denying The Self, I am elaborating on its true nature. Dimensionless Knowing Being. 👁

*I understand space is an illusion, it was used for the metaphor to explain a selfless quality.

Much love to you all. ✌️👁🧘‍♂️