A dead culture deserves a funeral, not worship.
Maybe India needs less heritage and more rebellion.
Maybe India needs less heritage and more rebellion.
Discourse: Jyun Macchali Bin Neer - 05
There’s one thing about the AP Framework that I'm struggling with, and I genuinely want to understand how this is resolved.. A central idea seems to be that the ego is the very thing that distorts our perception. It creates identification, projects things onto reality, tells us stories about ourselves and then mistakes those stories for truth. But if that is the case, how can the ego itself reliably recognize that it is distorting reality? For example, AP talks about seeing the ego, having the right intent, ego-thinning and vertical movement. But how do I know that I’m actually seeing the ego or becoming less egoic? If I think, "I’m becoming less egoic," couldn’t that itself just be another egoic thought? The ego could simply create a new identity around being spiritually aware or "progressing." The same problem seems to apply to truth. If the mind/ego is capable of distorting what we see, then how do I know that something I have identified as "truth" isn’t simply another conclusion produced by that same mind?
And this is where I seem to run into a circularity. If the ego is unreliable, I’m told I need an external reference or framework to see through it. But I still have to use my own mind to decide whether that external reference is actually valid. And if my own perception is already considered unreliable, how do I know that my acceptance of the framework isn’t itself another construction of the ego? Even with ego-thinning, how do I independently verify that it is actually happening?
If the answer is that I can observe changes in myself… like less attachment, less fear, less identification, etc then I still have to be the one judging whether those changes are real and whether they actually represent "ego-thinning." So I keep coming back to the same question: if the ego is both the problem and the instrument through which I have to recognize the problem, what prevents it from simply creating a more sophisticated story about its own dissolution? I’m not saying this disproves the AP Framework. Maybe there is a very good answer to this that I’m missing. But it seems to me that this is a pretty fundamental epistemological question, because if there is no independent or non-circular way of establishing concepts like ego, ego-thinning, vertical movement, truth and intent, how do we know that these aren't themselves constructions of the very ego that the framework says we need to transcend?
I’m genuinely curious how people here understand this.
Discourse: Jo Bole To Hari Katha
I've followed Acharya Prashant for a couple of years now, and that's exactly why this silence is difficult to understand.
He teaches fearlessness. He teaches standing by truth. He teaches questioning power, rejecting convenience, and living by principles instead of public opinion. This is the foundation of his philosophy. If those teachings are universal, then surely this is precisely the kind of moment where they should be visible. This isn't about expecting him to comment on every news event. It's about asking why he appears silent on an issue that so many of his own followers care deeply about.
Which is why this moment feels so jarring. The people who made him influential are at Jantar Mantar. They deserve his voice.
I'm honestly not interested in attacking him. But am I missing something here? Has he addressed it somewhere that I haven't seen? If not, how do you reconcile this silence with the values he asks others to live by?
If not now, then when? If not on this, then on what?
Discourse: ATHATO BHAKTI JIGYASA 34
I’m writing this because I care deeply about this community, and something happened recently that I believe every member here needs to be aware of.
Let's get one thing out of the way first: I’m no saint! I’m not claiming to have some perfect, flawless "zen" patience, and I completely admit that I lost my temper in the DMs when dealing with an absolute wall of shifting excuses. But my personal level of enlightenment isn't the issue here. This is about basic fairness, transparency, and how this sub is being run.
Before publishing this, I checked directly with a neutral member of the moderation team and was told it's okay to share this as long as its polite, transparent and constructive. If it is subsequently removed or if my account is banned again, it will not be an enforcement of subreddit rules, it will be a unilateral action by the single moderator whose conduct is documented below.
You can check my post history; I have dedicated significant time to sharing excerpts of Osho’s discourses on this subreddit. Recently, to not alienate people because of language I began adding dual English/Hindi subtitles and hardcoding source info onto the videos.
A few days ago, I uploaded two original, unmanipulated clips. In these excerpts, Osho is heavily critical of politics. Both posts were immediately deleted.
Post 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/Osho/s/lyRz2vSVAX
Post 1 Reposted: https://www.reddit.com/r/Osho/s/JZBWuMUrxa
Post 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/Osho/s/ZspKn5ohER
Post 2 Reposted: https://www.reddit.com/r/Osho/s/iNsH0ZZx6J
What followed was a series of changing explanations, inconsistent moderation, two permanent bans, and eventually a mute that prevented me from contacting the rest of the moderation team. I've documented the timeline below using direct quotes so everyone can judge for themselves.
When I asked the mod(s) why my posts were deleted instead of simply asking me to add a source citation, I received a series of changing explanations from one specific, highly active moderator:
Excuse 1: The "AI" Claim - The moderator initially claimed the posts were deleted because I needed to prove they weren't AI.
"Please give proper reference of your post. As in the name of OshO may be a misleading content... include the video in the description so that we can see proof thats its really Osho and not AI."
Note: I have been posting on this sub for the longest time. The clips are entirely authentic. On the contrary, it is deeply concerning that a moderator of an Osho forum claims they cannot recognize his actual voice.
Excuse 2: The Invented Rule - When I pointed out that his reasoning made no sense, the moderator abandoned the AI excuse and invented a completely incomprehensible new rule to justify deleting the political critiques:
"Posts that are not about Osho in relation to Osho will just be taken down as we do not tolerate spamming."
This line above is pure, unadulterated word salad, devoid of any meaning at all. The man literally spoke for roughly 30 years about everything from global history to philosophy and you are essentially demanding he only talk about himself. It’s absurd!
Hiding behind the team: Throughout our entire exchange, this moderator constantly used the word “we,” hiding behind the collective identity of the mod team to make his personal, prejudiced opinions look like official subreddit policy. It was a clear tactic to intimidate me into compliance, when in reality, it was just one guy acting completely on his own without the team's backing.
Baseless Accusations: When the policy excuses failed, he resorted to throwing random allegations at the wall to see what would stick. He actually accused me of creating alternate accounts to comment on my own posts. A completely fabricated, unfounded claim with absolutely zero evidence behind it.
The Personal Attacks Unable to defend the double standard, the moderator stopped discussing subreddit rules entirely and began evaluating my personal spirituality, lecturing me about my "sadhana" and telling me I "lack peace."
When I refused to settle for the vague "in relation to Osho" word-salad, the abuse of mod tools began.
This was never a real argument about citations or account behavior. I have since reposted those exact clips with full sources, and they are sitting on the feed right now, proving the material was always 100% authentic.
This looks like a clear attempt at selective political censorship that completely backfired. The moment I uploaded clips of Osho targeting nationalistic organizations and the ruling party, he scrambled for any technicality he could find to wipe them off the feed. But because I called his bluff, complied with the rules, and reposted them with full citations, he couldn't delete them a second time without making his political bias blindingly obvious to the entire sub.
Since he failed to suppress the content, he decided to target me instead with a permanent ban simply because he didn't get his way.
Osho didn't belong to any political party, country, or ideology. Using moderator tools, silent mutes, and fake rules to hide his historical discourses because they don't align with a personal political stance completely goes against what this community should be about.
I am more than happy to follow any consistent formatting rules the team agrees on. But an open forum dedicated to Osho should be an unfiltered archive of his actual spoken words. We deserve transparency, and we deserve a moderation team that protects the archives rather than manipulating them to fit a personal narrative.
Lastly, I want to make it absolutely clear that this isn't a shot at the moderation team as a whole. The rest of the mods here have been incredibly kind, patient, and cooperative throughout this entire mess, and they genuinely care about fairness. It’s just deeply unfortunate that this one specific individual spent the whole time hiding behind their collective authority and reputation just to justify his own personal prejudice.
I’m opening this up to the sub. How do you think we should handle Osho’s political discourses moving forward?
Note for the MODS: The source is hardcoded directly into the video this time. Hopefully, this saves you from another "authenticity panic" and prevents you from deleting the entire post. (And yes, my sincere apologies again! He is still talking about something other than himself here)
But here are the full details below too, just in case reading the screen is a stretch.
Discourse: Es Dhammo Sanantano - 119
Date: 21st June, 1978
Location: Poona, India
Language: Hindi
Source/Discourse: UDIO PANKH PASAR - 09
Date: 21st July, 1978
Location: Poona, India
Language: Hindi
Note for the MODS: If you require any further metadata to prove this original audio isn't an AI deepfake, let me know. I'll figure something.
Otherwise, I’m truly sorry he isn't talking about himself in this clip. I know how much that throws off your rules.
It is profoundly embarrassing that the moderators of an Osho subreddit cannot distinguish an authentic voice recording from an AI voice. Even more hilarious is the bizarre rule they invented in my DMs: "Posts that are not about Osho in relation to Osho will be taken down." Imagine running a forum dedicated to a man who spoke for over 30 years covering everything from Zen to global politics, and demanding he only talk about himself.
It takes a spectacular level of incompetence to censor the literal spoken archives of a mystic because you don't personally recognize the quote. Ban me if your feelings are that fragile, but the community deserves to see how completely hollow your logic is.
Below is the exact source.
Source/Discourse: UDIO PANKH PASAR - 09
Date: 21st July, 1978
Location: Poona, India
Language: Hindi
Note for the MODS: Re-uploading this with full academic citations to prevent any further panic. I assure you this is an actual, physical archival recording of Osho and not an AI voice. I also hope this particular discourse meets the incredibly profound criteria of being "Osho in relation to Osho," even if he dares to speak about something other than himself for five minutes.