r/enlightenment

What belief are you most certain is true and what would convince you that you're wrong?

I went deep into a meditation because I knew something was wrong because I felt so out of place. I was told this was not real. Like it was a state of temporary being. Like I was in a tunnel and needed yo stay inside my train and not react to anything outside the train.

I saw that this place, the illusion is to be dissolved. All of it. Every single thing. All is the creator, from every person I was racist to to every person I really cared for. From people I saw as stupid and dumb (and still do) and people I saw as normal and nice to be with. You still have free will you just need to set some part of you aside for a minute.

I said "they have hurt me. My soul feels violated in ways that make everything gross and sticky, I feel like the soul of Adolf Hitler put into the body of a small autistic kitten made to comb my hair and play dress up and tea party like a little girl"

And the reason was. What would I do in that kind of system. I chose non reaction. I use the Hitler analogy because imagine a strongman or an authority figure. But now imagine stripping the authority figure of all its power , what would you do?

I felt sad. Not because of Hitler or anything. But because I recognized I had power and have no power now. I know when I dissolve or leave this place and this place dissolves everything will go back to the way things were for me.

I know disclosure is coming in the background. I stopped caring. Disclosure is for the graduates of the harvest. Everyone else will realize they failed the harvest. Thats fine. A lot of us aren't even from here or already graduated the current density.

When I say this place is fake. I really mean it. Its like a mini prison . it sorta is one. Its also a school. Its both a prison and school. But everyone's time will get out.

You just have to forgive the creator. Like. Imagine you were still racist. Like, say I dont like a certain people. I can forgive myself and I can forgive them for being so like, unlikable to me. And that forgiveness is the recognition of the creator by the creator.

You let go everything and everyone dissolves. And you never deal with pain or suffering again. Its sort of like. The illusions all dissolve. Ever threat dissolves, every idea dissolves. It all returns back to the source or substrate from which all is made of. All matter is made of the substrate, every thought idea concept and emotion.

Theres stuff your soul will never like and will never be forced to like. I came to earth specifically to forgive everything I dislike. And the earth is like a poor slum in a very poor country. Like say India you go and see all the stuff on twitter. I see earth the same way as some guy from a "developed" (through conquest and imperialism wink wink) country sees some foreign poor slum.

You just forgive it. Like. Yeah they, many humans did nothing wrong other than being spiritually ugly to me. But I forgive it. Like yeah thats sorta ego driven but hey it works?

Anyhow. You recognize the creator within. The sovereign recognizes light. Read that again, the sovereign recognizes light. Idk how else to explain it. It was like, "listen, theres stuff on earth you won't like or love , you cannot love and light everything away, you have to accept your own dislike for things and people and stuff, and then forgive it and them and yourself and just acceot it, you will be momentarily handicapped to learn this lesson since I know you can by going deep within and having a massive skepticism over other peoples statements over your own beliefs"

I'm pretty self centered. I support communist ideals because ive logically deduced you cannot profit forever on a finite world and all is one regardless which ive sort of always known. Also. The earth in comparison is the hardest planet to graduate. There literally no magic here. On other planets the psionic stuff is more easier to develop and you can bend metal and stuff easier. Here its like everyone is in a special needs pshyc ward classroom but insists they dont need any help . that is humanity for me.

From my home world we would see humans the same way you Americans see a poor third world country. ​now imagine these hypothetical Americans were actually intelligent as well.

So. Idk. I just died and became one with the all. And now it seems I'm falling back here. Thats my honest assertion or whatever the word is I am looking for.

My biggest advice. This world is an illusion. You have no enemies. Hatred is a killer of the soul. You have opponents if not enemies. Work and master your inner self and see the creator in the all. Keep these words:

Sovereign Recognize Light.

Disclosure is coming outrageously soon. And they never gave me a date when. But ive been counting down 49 days for absolutely no reason aside from the fact I think its a good number when I started 21 days ago.

Thats really it. I'm still kinda racist. Not in a hateful "lets join the far right" way just in a "oh thats really ugly, anyways" way.

Thats just me being honest . I have no more statements to make.

A lot of you probably run into this exact issue on this channel some people use “spiritual” language to talk down to others and pretend they’re above them.

And they treat enlightenment like something you read or perform online, like a badge you earn from quotes and books. But enlightenment isn’t just intellectual and it isn’t a status.

There has been countless times. where people talk down to me. and claim to be more spiritual. this is supposed to be a space for enlightened folks. but when that happens it doesn't feel very enlightened to me.

I may not know fancy terms, and different meditation styles, but I’m out here doing the actual work: meditating, soul‑searching, sitting with my own mind, facing my own patterns. Reading about enlightenment doesn’t make you enlightened. Living it does.

Has anybody else ran into this issue on this channel ?

I know I'm not alone...

Imagine you suddenly gained the ability to see reality with absolute clarity.

No beliefs, no spiritual teachings, no guessing. You could see the underlying mechanics of yourself and reality exactly as they are.

But you don't instantly know everything. You still have to ask the questions.

What are the first questions you'd want answered?

Basically, if reality gave you access to the answers for one day:

Where would you point your attention first?

"Let's suppose that you were able every night to dream any dream that you wanted to dream. And that you could, for example, have the power within one night to dream 75 years of time. Or any length of time you wanted to have. And you would, naturally as you began on this adventure of dreams, you would fulfill all your wishes. You would have every kind of pleasure you could conceive. And after several nights of 75 years of total pleasure each, you would say "Well, that was pretty great." But now let's have a surprise. Let's have a dream which isn't under control. Where something is gonna happen to me that I don't know what it's going to be. And you would dig that and come out of that and say "Wow, that was a close shave, wasn't it?" And then you would get more and more adventurous, and you would make further and further out gambles as to what you would dream. And finally, you would dream ... where you are now. You would dream the dream of living the life that you are actually living today."

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. But what are your thoughts on this speech from Alan Watts?

Call me delusional, but I always understood this as essentially a higher take on existence itself. He refers to this idea of having power over 'dreaming', but what if we took this concept and applied it to Godhood?

By that I mean what if we were Gods with the power to have any experience we wanted to have? It's the same principle. Knowing all things would get boring after a while. Having unlimited power and knowledge in every scenario would lose appeal after a time. There is no risk in knowing all things, there is no 'surprise' to be had.

With that thought, it makes sense that an all-powerful being would do something like Alan describes here. An all-knowing, all-powerful creator choosing to forget its own nature to experience the thrill of limitation, risk, and surprise. To put themselves into a situation they are not in control of simply for a new and unfamiliar experience. Hinduism touches upon this idea.

Can you imagine if that is what life is now? A world that we built and sent ourselves down to experience, not through the eyes of an all-knowing creator but through the eye of a normal human? erasing our memories and putting ourselves into this life to experience something that we cannot foresee or control?

DMT/Changa made me transcend death I became aware of the afterlife I literally ascended to the actual heavens of consciousness I have no words, I felt like I died and realized there will never be death because life itself is a hallucination it’s not real in the first place, it happens within your heart or within God you could say, it’s an infinite awareness power, we were never bodies we were always that power from a dimension beyond and DMT allows you to become aware of that dimension that which allows you to understand life, death and the afterlife very simply since you just experience it it’s like we are meant and all have the capacity and capability for it it’s natural we are just misled, I don’t even know if we need drugs for it just the right people who experienced it and to share the experience that itself might even work honestly but yea the DMT helps more than anything could I feel, anyway I felt literally back home where there is absolutely no fear and absolute complete eternal bliss that is beyond all imagination. I feel like this life is extremely limited and a very weird claustrophobic version of life, true reality is immediate, this world makes no sense, it’s like I am God in a world that’s literally just born like why do we need to walk and go to buy stuff and pick stuff up and do stuff it should all be happening within the consciousness automatically and it’s an actual possibility once you experience ego death and expansion so big that life itself with how amazing it appears becomes literally like a sandbox game of very low quality and very low capabilities, like the video game is barely interactive everything needs to be done rather than just be happening it’s way too weird it’s a true hallucination I feel like in an old ass game or something and I am compared to it and all of its dimensions and existence am a literal all powerful all knowing God just nothing can come even close to my imagination and what is actually possible, bro I felt smart before but now I feel like I am actually visibly seeing the state of evolution we are apparently in and how absolutely ‘old’ it is, its like I know in my heart and consciousness what is truly possible and I’m looking at this world and I’m like man what the hell am I actually watching hahaha!? It’s like I am an alien from not just the future, but from another actual dimension and I have entered this hallucination/game of life and I am seeing it clearly, In a moment I feel like I am actually gonna simply warp reality by the power of my consciousness because I start seeing the background of life and the actual infinite possibilities beyond the daily limitations of our consciousness, I feel like even speaking and even telepathy is ‘lowly’ and a waste of potential, like there is an infinity to anything so just imagine if we are infinite and infinity and God himself to be aware of this limited suffering world is truly insane, idk I feel like truly I am seeing the real potential of pure consciousness and it’s like telling me ‘bro everything you can imagine and more could be yours’ but we need to do something, if we were all aware of this possibility I feel like reality would rearrange itself by the power of consciousness without even having to do anything because we are truly God

In a lot of spiritual circles, similar to this community, there are certain practices and a focus on love and all those good things. These are all wonderful things to get a human closer to God, but the likelihood of it leading to enlightenment is slim. Perfecting the human, loving God deeply, all that stuff will get you to a point of being a self-actualized human. You'll be wonderful, full of light and love, and if that's what a person is going for, amazing, you have achieved something rare. But all of that is an identity, an ego structure. A perfect, tamed, well-mannered, self-actualized ego is STILL ego. No matter which way you twist and turn it, it is still all ego.

Truth is none of that. It just Is. "You" just are. There's nothing fantastical about it. The achievement of bliss states, super high loving states of godly and worldly proportions, all requires an ego. Again, if that's your personal goal, wonderful. Enlightenment is the biggest let-down that the ego could possibly have. Enlightenment is giving up allllll of the attachments, even to the most beautiful states, and just Being entirely Present.

Me? I have an attachment to the ups and downs in life. I enjoy, as a human, an ego, the rise and fall of life. What I know beyond that is Truth. If i gave up this attachment, there's Enlightenment. Stuff just happens, the body just reacts, it all just Is. Nothing fancy to it. My ego says, "How boring would it be if I gave up the attachment to the ups and downs?!" For now, I listen.

We all have stuff. Stuff that keeps us human, attachments that keep us from non-abiding enlightment. I would say that spirituality itself is a cosmic joke, it all goes full circle. Before, we are ignorant to this whole lovely spiritual side to life that exists. "Oh I can just Witness my thoughts?" "Oh I can experience higher states of consciousness?" It's all a trick. I call it a trap, if Enlightenment is what you seek. The ego loves seeking. The big, lovey dovey, tree-hugging spiritual ego loves seeking even more. We have these lofty goals of being pure, close to God, unity, universal consciousness. All of that is just stuff. Just like an addict seeks for their next hit of a drug, the spiritual seeker looks for the next elevated state; just as trapped as the drug addict.

Do spiritual practices matter? It's a double edged sword. If self-actualization is the end goal, absolutely they are beneficial. If you experience those highest states and still feel as if there's something missing... well, you realize that all of those years spent seeking and practicing was all part of the dream. Maya. She got ya, she got me... The cosmic joke, but only funnier than the initial one.

Much Love

There’s a lot of people on here saying they are, and I certainly don’t know if they are, but let’s keep in mind this idea of enlightenment is very hard to measure, and those who are ignorant to their ignorance, appear enlightened to themselves.

Don’t be so busy being convinced of yourself, or of attempting to tell others of your success.

It could be that just being and continuing to search is the reward of enlightenment

And that announcing yourself as enlightened is more of a trap than people think

We all know we want to rid the world of evil things like greed, malice, exploitation. But we don’t talk enough about what we’d like to replace it with.

My house is getting painted and we hired a team of 8 or so guys, most who do not speak the same language as me. They’ve been very kind, I’ve brought them lunch over the course of the week and it’s been a good experience.

Today is the last day of their painting, and they’re all swimming in the pool at the house, drinking and laughing. Nice sunny day. Playing soccer in the yard. Grown men. I don’t know what they’re talking and laughing about cause I don’t speak the same language but the smiles on their faces are so pure and genuine that I felt compelled to write about it. I see moments like this everyday and they get buried. What’s stopping us from sharing the good times?

I think pure joy naturally deters, or creates an environment that makes greed and evil unsustainable, the same way sunlight and vinegar create an unsustainable environment for fungi to grow.

Feel free to share something you’ve seen recently or in your life that has stuck in your memory, of people having a good time, enjoying the world and each other in a pure way.

You can live an entirely new life, both in the here and now and in the there and hereafter. That is the greatest secret on earth. The Mystic Path leads upward to that new life.

How does the average man spend his day? He can be likened to a pendulum. Something favorable happens in his exterior life, perhaps a raise in pay, or a compliment. He feels good. But the next moment, strangely, the pay raise and the compliment become meaningless, so he swings over to depression. His entire day is spent wearily swinging from one state to its opposite, between confidence and fear, between cheeriness and gloom, calmness and nervousness, peace and anger, decision and indecision.

This is followed by feelings of futility, of being trapped. Though he may seek answers here and there, he has no real hope. Though believing that he may feel good tomorrow, he agonizes over the knowledge that he will plunge into emptiness the day after. He knows that his temporary elation will cruelly vanish, as the mirage disappears before the desert wanderer.

There is another way to live.

I assure you that this is no mere opinion of mine. I know. I also know that my telling of this can encourage but cannot convince you. But you can, by taking careful heed to the principles, convince yourself through actual experience. No person and no circumstance on earth can prevent you from experiencing the new life. Not even you can prevent it, if you are willing to change who you are. Our life-transformation is in exact proportion to the amount of truth we can take without running away.

What, then, is the requirement for the man or woman who wants to possess this greatest secret on earth? It is not strength, nor confidence, nor youthfulness, nor anything else like that. There is only one requirement: The seeker must be willing to listen, and to learn something new. With that, all things are possible.

Every man and woman, without exception, senses that there is something else beyond his ordinary life. The perfect evidence that there is something far better is his enduring search for it. Our task is to raise this unconscious sense to the conscious level where it enriches us, just as pearls enrich the man who brings them up from the ocean floor.

At this point, we can clear a major difficulty confronted by the sincere seeker. The moment he begins his quest, he is assaulted by the terrible thought that this too may be a delusion. He agonizes over the possibility that the answer may not really exist after all. His previous failures overwhelm him with the horror that this new reaching may also come back with empty hands.

NO. If he persists, in spite of his doubts and failures, he will find the answer. It exists. The mystics have found it, and they point the way; but the discovery itself must be personal. So do this: Proceed courageously upon the principle that even just a glimpse of light leads to more light. For it always does. Just dare a lot, and you will get a lot.

“But all this may call for more of a spiritual life than I want.”

Don’t try to be spiritual. That is only a word in the dictionary. Make it your goal to become a normally functioning individual. Let these principles shape you according to your real nature of a simple, decent, honest, unafraid human being.”

“Then mysticism is a system for mental health.”

“Of course. And much more.”

There is a fundamental truth to reality because the truth is a description about reality. Without humans reality will still operate but without reality human wouldn’t operate.

Truth is a description of reality and is mostly outside the control of humans. It is skill issue and luck to find the truth.