u/Jason-Skywalker

I wanna make some videos soon on American empire, why you SHOULD hate it, even if you are an American, and how the Liberal vs Conservative puppet show going on in the last 100 years or so has been a distraction that has duped the working class for generations. We're at a critical time where class consciousness can shift dramatically and I wanna help my fellow Americans come to realize this.

You guys got any books, articles documentaries (whatever) to help me out here?

There are a lot of women who get influenced by Feminists who proudly proclaim that Misandry is ok thanks to personal bad experiences with men. Ironically, men have done this as well, but nowhere near to the same degree.

It seems like we live in a world where the default assumption is that women are great, compassionate, loving, virtuous, and men are (at best) yin and yang. They CAN be good, they CAN be evil, but since their evil is so dangerous, they must be assumed to be evil until they prove themselves to be good. And anything good a man does is seen as either "doing the bare minimum" or "the exception".

I know we talk on this sub reddit about crimes women have committed crimes, but I'm not making this post because I wanna highlight some specific criminal here or there. I see both men and women as capable of good and evil because we're all just people at the end of the day, but it doesn't seem to extinguish this bias we all have since we grew up with it. So what do we do about it? How do we actually deprogram ourselves and others from this way of thinking? How do we help people realize that neither men nor women should be put on a moral pedistal or thrown into the moral trash bin?

Also, for any women reading this, have you witnessed this bias among women? What would be your advice?

I've noticed a growing trend along with the rise of anti Imperialist energy online due to America's recent actions, this idea that 1st Worlders won't do anything for a revolution, "Americans are fine with Imperialism which is why they do nothing about it." (etc)

One person I follow a lot (I'm not gonna say who it was cuz I don't want drama) once said (and bragged about saying) that he doesn't care about " "communism" I just want revenge on the first world". This is an interesting take.

I'm not as educated on Marxism as you all are, but I've spent a lot of time around these kinds of people, and I usually end up giving them the same critique.

1. Most Americans don't vote for anybody
2. Americans are propagandized by Revisionism, Liberalism and "Shining city on a Hill" talking points from cradle to grave. The issue isn't about 1st world comfort. It's almost entirely ideological.
3. Correct me if I'm wrong, but bringing about discomfort for 1st Worlders doesn't always yield revolutionary results. Germany for example, went into Fascist Nazism when faced with hard times. The issue is class consciousness, not tough times.

Why was the working class duped by Bernie, AOC and Mamdani? Because they aren't educated or class conscious enough to realize when their anger is getting co opted and funneled into Liberal outlets where it goes to die.

Third Worldism feels like a finger-wagging way for those outside the Imperial Core to just rant about why they hate 1st Worlders (usually Americans) and need to work against the "labor aristocracy" in the Imperial Core in order to save them and the world. It's a strange idea which ultimately amounts to them saying "Do nothing and wait for us" (which isn't happening).

I think we really need to deal with Third Worldism, its merits and faults, in more depth. I personally see it as Revisionist, and mostly made by people who aren't applying Marxist Leninism properly.

A lot of Third Worldism presupposes that Americans are all educated Marxistst who consciously know what needs to be done, yet choose not to do it. The very fact that you all are doing such excellent education work proves that this isn't the case. Most Americans don't know how Capitalism works, how it relates to Imperialism, or how to stop it. Telling a people this ignorant to "do more" is like casually telling people from the 1700s about computers. You're speaking another language to them.

Thank you all for your time, and I'm curious to read through the answers.

I've sseen lots of media (and terrible awful AI generated videos) that depict a female-ruled world as a just, co-operative utopia where everyone is taken care of. Obviously, this assumes women are better than men, so I'm not gonna entertain it.

But in real life, are there examples of Matriarchal societies that are actually good? And not just good, but good because they were/are Matriarchal? Sometimes, Feminists bring up female-only villages as proof that they're better off without men, but they're not running a large government, they're just living on the land in individual homes, which plenty of male+female villages do already.

I agree that if we managed to create a world where men didn't have to be the load-bearing, emotionally stoic warriors, we'd have a much healthier society. But I fail to see how that correlates with simply handing the keys to women, and I have seen no good evidence for it being a good idea.

EDIT:

Obviously, we know that none of them ever developed enough to be large empires that could help many people, but that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if within their own societies, were they signs of this egalitarian fairy tale Feminists love to go on about?

You hear this thrown around a lot by Feminists who make analogies to men making sexist jokes for example, and saying that you didn't do the bad thing, but you did nothing when it happened, which is effectively the same. "This is why women don't trust men"

To be clear, we do live in a very "I got mine" "Every man/woman for him/her self" culture, and this does need to stop. I've actually talked a lot about this with friends when it comes to anti Imperielist activism.

What irritates me about this however, is how it assumes that all or most men are:

1. Knowing

2. Able

In order to berate men for "not standing up" you'd need to know how much those men knew of what was happening and were able to do something about it. This comes up a lot when talking about "rape culture. "Sure, you didn't grape the lady. But you helped normalize a culture which promotes other men to go out and do it, and you do nothing about it when it happens."

This is a case by case thing. Some men do that, sure, but most don't. I don't make sexist/rape jokes, and even if I did, you couldn't possibly know that that joke helped lead to X guy committing X crime. It's just an assumption, one they superimpose on men they've never even met to evaluate.

Even in the worst case scenario, a man murders his wife, they come out to say "Where are all the men condemning this? You didn't do it, but you're not doing anything about it either." Like what do you want me to do? I didn't even know the guy!

This also assumes collective guilt, as if every time a man does something bad, we all need to apologize for it, which is just dumb.

They should be trying to help promote a healthy environment where men can express their feelings without feeling shame or guilt. This will lead to better relations between men and women and far less crimes against both. But they don't want that, so they jump to collective blaming.

I do wanna preface this by saying that it's not all women (duh) and that this is by no means a "Women are awful, we need to acknowledge it" kind of post. Most people aren't involved with these dumb debates online anyway (thank God).

But I know many guys who have had negative, toxic or even downright cruel experiences with women. Some of it was the result of their own dumb decisions (at least in part) and some of it was the result of being manipulated and/or betrayed.

Yet none of them (and I mean NONE of them) say that they hate women, that women are trash, that women as vain and selfish, and all of them still have good relations with the female family members of their lives.

On the other hand, women who have had bad experiences with men, even IF they have positive male family members and negative female family members, are coddled, given "You go girl!" praise and support, and men are even told to be sympathetic to them "Aw baby who hurt you?" (this courtesy would NEVER be extended to an openly misogynistic man)

What baffles me is what's with this difference? Sure, when you are in an echo chamber of propaganda and all the people in it are sharing anonymous anecdotes, it can make you feel validated. But there are TONS of men who could do the same thing and just don't. Every man I know who has had horrible experiences with women do not conclude that hating women is the solution. They all managed to bounce back in some way. Why can't (these specific) women do the same?