u/Kindly-Reason-282

Micro-dosing oxymetazoline for turbinate hypertrophy
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Micro-dosing oxymetazoline for turbinate hypertrophy

Hi. I've previously posted on reddit regarding my incredibly bad sleep for the last ~5 months due to turbinate hypertrophy. I've essentially tried everything (including Buteyko breathing, I score 25-30 now and it has given me 0 improvement regarding my sleep and hypertrophy), diet, saline cleanses, allergy drugs (different kinds), corticosteroid sprays (like Dymista), sleeping upright, nasal dilators (like breathe right strips), etc. Nothing works. I've tried for literally months now. I workout regularly (even though it has been very difficult with this low energy). I also don't have a narrow jaw and I have asked my doctors regarding this and they all said it would be pointless in my case. I don't have a deviated septum either.

I am trying to be very specific here, as when I make these posts, people tend to steer away from the particular thing I'm asking for (help with spray advice and/or turbinate reduction) and I usually get suggestions that I know won't help me that are unrelated to my question.

I already had a visit with an ENT known to be very aware of ENS (I believe he even treats it to some extent) and he recommended CELON reduction with an endoscope, but a very conservative one (since he is aware of my fear of ENS). I've heard other people get it with him and they feel great now. Reference video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_5g0b7Nec

Before I get the surgery, one thing I saw is that people seem to be micro-dosing oxymetazoline (mixing saline with a very low amount of it) and it seems that it can be used long-term. This is similar to Allermi, but even a lower dose. I tried it yesterday (mixed half a bottle of saline with a tiny amount of my oxymetazoline spray) and while it didn't unblock my nose fully, it definitely helped me sleep a tiny bit better.

Has anyone tried this for an extended period of time? Have you gotten rebound congestion? For example, I have a person in my friend group that has been using oxymetazoline sprays (full dosage) for ~10 years and he seems to be doing just fine (no crazy side effects). So I am really questioning whether all of the side effects that are listed are always applicable, especially at lower doses. There is quite a lot of research regarding this, for example here's one for Allermi which is at 0.0125ml which is significantly lower than Afrin (0.5 mg). https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(25)01934-7/pdf

Curious to hear about peoples' experience with this.

u/Kindly-Reason-282 — 9 days ago

Hey guys. I went to Dr. Vik Veer and got a consultation regarding my issues with sleeping and total blockage in my nose at night. I had previously made a post here regarding how I've tried everything essentially - corticosteroids, saline sprays, diet changes, LPR meds, 45 degree pillows and nothing had worked.

The doctor essentially said that I do indeed have quite the enlarged turbinates and since I've been taking antihistamine + corticosteroids for this long and it hasn't worked, a procedure could be done. I told him about my strong concerns regarding ENS and he said that I have a slightly deviated septum (very slight, but could contribute). Thus, what he suggested is to do an outfracture of turbinates + fix my septum and not do any type of RF reduction/other type of turbinate reduction. From what I understand, outfracture is just moving the turbinates away and not actually touching the mucosa which is what would cause ENS.

What do you guys think?

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