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[Combinatorics] The “Loving Circle” — What size is the final group most likely to have?

I came up with this problem while thinking about random directed graphs and recursive selection processes. I’m particularly interested in whether there is a clean pen-and-paper solution rather than brute-force enumeration.

PROBLEM

There are 10 people in a room. One person, A, is chosen as the initial person.

Whenever a person is asked, they choose exactly 2 distinct people from the other 9 people. Each of the 36 possible pairs is equally likely.

Initially, only A is asked.

The process then works recursively:

  • The two people chosen by A are asked next.
  • Whenever a person is chosen for the first time, that person is subsequently asked to choose their own two people.
  • A person who has already been asked may be chosen again, but is not asked again.
  • The process stops when no new person is discovered.

Let K be the total number of distinct people who have been asked, including A.

For example, if A chooses B and C, and eventually the only people ever reached are A, B, C, D, E, then K = 5.

QUESTION

Determine the value of k for which P(K = k) is maximal.

In other words:

How many people is the final group most likely to contain?

Give a rigorous proof.

CLARIFICATIONS

  1. The two people chosen by any person form an unordered pair. Thus choosing {B,C} is the same as choosing {C,B}.
  2. A person cannot choose themselves.
  3. Choices made by different people are independent.
  4. A person is asked only once, namely when they are first discovered.
  5. The order in which newly discovered people are subsequently asked is irrelevant.
  6. The initial person A is fixed for the purpose of the problem. Since all 10 people are symmetric, choosing the initial person randomly would not change the distribution of K.
  7. No computer or simulation should be necessary.

INTENDED LEVEL / CHALLENGE

I am aiming for this to be around USANMO-level combinatorics, or at least to require comparable problem-solving and observation rather than routine counting.

I’m especially interested in whether there is an elegant way to attack the probability distribution without simply enumerating every possible configuration.

Please try to solve it with pen and paper before using computational enumeration.

No LLM-generated solutions, please. I’d much rather see a genuine human solution or approach, even if incomplete.

Suggested time limit: around 2–3 hours for a serious attempt.

I’m also interested in feedback on:

  • whether the problem is actually at the claimed level;
  • whether the statement contains any ambiguity;
  • whether there is a substantially cleaner solution than brute-force enumeration.
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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 9 days ago

Need advice on Consulting !!

I am recent engineer graduate and have no clue regarding consulting. Can anyone tell me how can I get into it like what are the initial knowledge or stuff i should know to step into this side? any help would be appreciated

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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 3 months ago

Aadhar Details not coming!!!

I was prompted to complete Aadhaar authentication at the beginning of the NEET PG 2026 application process. However, I clicked "Close" on the Aadhaar verification popup and continued filling the application. The portal allowed me to complete the entire application and successfully submit the form with payment. The application has been submitted successfully, but the final application PDF does not contain the "Details Fetched from Aadhaar" section, whereas it appears in applications where Aadhaar authentication was completed.

I am not sure what to do, can anyone help?

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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 3 months ago

anyone with more than 99.8 %ile in CAT?

repeating cat this year, got 99.6 in 2025, anyone with greater score kindly reply. P.S. would appreciate it if people did not ask which colleges I got into or why I did not join.

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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 4 months ago

2025 season ends with disappointment!

Hello, wanted to share my experience of this whole unbelievable journey.

So I am a GEM fresher, 99.6 in CAT, 9/8/9 profile.

After scoring above my expectations I was really happy. Also I knew that none of the BLACKI would call and that's what happened. Hence,

Rejected by - BLACKI, SPJIMR, FMS (missed cutoffs by 0.15 composite score).

Got calls from - IIMM, IIMU, ISB PGP YL, IIFT, MDI G, JAP, CAP, etc.

Now I had already decided to do MBA this year only if I get into IIMM or ISB. So I kind of didn't go for the interview at IIFT (yes I am dumb), and for MDI G, my interview clashed with ISB (not that I really wanted to go to MDI). I am sorryy I just think I deserve better and no hate to these colleges at all.

After the interviews :

Rejected by - IIMM (my best interview of the season), IIMU, ISB, etc.

Converted - IIM Ranchi, IIM amritsar

I was sad for a day because I could not get shortlisted by IIMM or ISB. But my parents were like IIM Ranchi is also good (which definitely is). However, I had decided earlier that going to any college other than IIM Mumbai or ISB would not have made me feel good at all. I am proud of myself for not getting depressed about it, and I might go for CAT again this year.

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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 4 months ago

HELP ME PLEASE !!!

Hello I applied for ISB PGP YL 2026-2028 batch and gave the interview but was rejected (interview went bad). I am thinking of applying again for 2027-2029 and I want to improve my profile, kindly help me with what all should I improve.

profile -
10th - 93
12th - 80
Graduation - 95% (GEM Fresher)
CAT - 99.6 %ile
currently doing internship (will graduate in 2026 june) and would have a job as AI engineer
have cleared INMO, ntse stage 1
Have 2 conference research paper and a book chapter published
worked with an NGO for 2 months.
worked as content writer head in college.

also thinking of giving GMAT too this year

Ik its not at all great therefore any help would be appreciated

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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 5 months ago
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new to GMAT, need help

As title tells, I just want to know what resources do we have for free for this. For reference CAT 99.61 %ile and weak in VARC verbal ability. Want to target 690+. Any help would be appreciated.

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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 5 months ago

workex related doubt

For isb pgp yl, can anyone tell till when the work ex is taken in account. Like i m graduating in june 2026 and if I apply for cohort 2027-2029, how much workex would I have (considering I will work from 1st july 2026)

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u/Klutzy-Day7528 — 5 months ago