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Small 3 to 6 L chilled-water loop with 1/10 HP chiller: pump, priming, and noise questions

Small 3 to 6 L chilled-water loop with 1/10 HP chiller: pump, priming, and noise questions

No, this isn’t a cold plunge, but I think this sub may be closer to the right audience than the places I tried before.

I’m building a small chilled water loop for a hydronic mattress cover. The cover is an Eight Sleep Pod 5 King cover, but I’m trying to bypass the official hub and run it as a dumb water heat exchanger with an external chiller and pump loop.

The goal is cooling only. No heat. No app. No biometrics. Just chilled water through the cover.

I’m mostly looking for advice on the chiller, pump, priming, bleeding, noise, and closed loop design, since that overlaps pretty heavily with cold plunge setups.

System size and water volume assumption

The actual Eight Sleep water volume isn’t publicly confirmed, but based on setup and filling reports for similar Pod systems, I’m assuming the cover plus tubing loop is somewhere around:

3 to 6 liters total
0.8 to 1.6 gallons

So this is much smaller than a plunge tub, but the load is different. It has to pull heat from a person, mattress, and bedding over several hours.

That’s why I’m looking at a 1/10 HP compressor chiller, not a full size cold plunge chiller.

Planned loop

I do not want a permanent reservoir or bucket in the bedroom.

Basic loop idea:

Mattress cover outlet
-> small inline 12V brushless pump
-> 1/10 HP compressor chiller
-> mattress cover inlet

Service ports:

High point:
T-fitting -> valve -> capped fill/bleed tube

Low point:
T-fitting -> valve -> drain hose to bucket

I’d only use a bucket when filling, bleeding, or draining.

Planned chiller

Current candidate:

Poafamx / AL-160 / 42 gal / 1/10 HP aquarium chiller

Amazon examples:

Reasoning:

  • compressor based
  • small enough for the loop
  • cheaper than most name brand aquarium chillers
  • some listings claim under 35 dB, though I’m skeptical
  • seems like the right size class for this kind of load

I’m also looking at VEVOR, EcoPlus, and Active Aqua, but noise is a major concern. This will be near a bedroom, so a loud compressor cycling all night would be a dealbreaker.

Planned pump

I’m trying to avoid using an oversized pump.

Target pump specs:

12V DC
brushless
inline capable
roughly 7 L/min
roughly 3 m head
roughly 6 to 8 W
continuous duty
not dry run safe

Possible pump:

TOPSFLO TL-B10-A12-0703 or similar 12V brushless circulation pump

Reasoning: older Eight Sleep pump repair posts suggest their pump class is closer to a small 12V brushless circulation pump than a big aquarium or pond pump.

I originally looked at Sicce Syncra pumps, but even the smaller ones may be more flow than I need.

Safety and service parts

Planned extras:

  • soft silicone tubing
  • barbed T-fittings
  • small ball valves
  • capped fill and bleed tube
  • drain valve plus drain hose
  • stainless clamps on every barb
  • leak tray under all wet hardware
  • water leak detector
  • GFCI/AFCI protection
  • rubber or foam isolation under pump and chiller
  • distilled water
  • still undecided on biocide or loop treatment

I’m not buying final adapters until I physically measure the cover tubing ID and OD.

Questions for this sub

  1. Does a 1/10 HP chiller seem reasonable for a roughly 1 gallon loop that is cooling a human and mattress load over several hours?
  2. Would a small 7 L/min / 3 m head pump be enough, or would you go stronger?
  3. Is running this with no permanent reservoir a bad idea if I include proper fill, bleed, and drain ports?
  4. Should I add a tiny inline expansion or air chamber even if I don’t want a reservoir?
  5. Any tips for priming and bleeding a small closed loop like this?
  6. Any reason the chiller would hate such a small water volume?
  7. Are these cheap Poafamx / AL-160 chillers actually quiet, or are the noise claims fantasy?
  8. Would VEVOR, EcoPlus, Active Aqua, or another 1/10 HP unit be a better choice?
  9. Is there a good safe loop treatment or biocide for mixed unknown tubing and plastics?
  10. Anything I’m missing from a cold plunge or chiller perspective?

Main concerns:

  • compressor noise
  • short cycling because the loop volume is small
  • pump dry run during filling
  • trapped air with no reservoir
  • leaks at adapters
  • condensation if water temp goes too low
  • picking a pump that creates too much pressure for the mattress cover
  • buying a cheap chiller that technically works but sounds like a mini fridge beside the bed

I know this is not a normal cold plunge build, but the chiller, pump, and loop problems seem similar. I’d appreciate feedback from people who have dealt with small compressor chillers, quiet pumps, priming issues, or closed loop cooling setups.

u/KolorOner — 24 hours ago
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Bypassing the Eight Sleep Hub With an External Chiller: Does This Setup Make Sense?

I’m working on a DIY cooling setup using an Eight Sleep Pod 5 King cover that I currently own (no pod) as the mattress-side water grid, but replacing/bypassing the Eight Sleep hub with my own external cooling loop.

The goal is cooling only for now. I don’t care about heating. I also don’t want a permanent bucket/reservoir sitting in my bedroom, so I’m trying to build this as a mostly closed loop with fill/bleed/drain ports.

I’m posting because I’d like people to tear this apart before I buy everything. If there’s a flaw in the flow rate, pressure, tubing assumptions, pump choice, chiller choice, noise, condensation risk, etc., I’d rather find out now.

What inspired this

The main inspiration was this Truffle Security post:

https://trufflesecurity.com/blog/removing-jeff-bezos-from-my-bed

They used an Eight Sleep cover and connected the tubing to an aquarium chiller. That made me realize the useful part of the Eight Sleep system, for my purposes, is really the water-circulating cover.

I also looked at a bunch of other DIY / repair / teardown posts:

Why I’m doing this

I like the Eight Sleep cover concept, but I don’t love being locked into the official hub/cloud/subscription ecosystem. I’m mainly trying to get a reliable cooling setup that is:

  • quiet enough for a bedroom
  • cooling-only
  • serviceable
  • leak-conscious
  • not wildly expensive
  • not dependent on a permanent open reservoir/bucket

I looked into thermoelectric/Peltier options because they’re closer to how Eight Sleep seems to work, but most DIY-friendly TEC setups look either underpowered, inefficient, noisy once fans are included, or expensive enough that I might as well use the official hub.

So I’m leaning compressor chiller.

Proposed build

Basic loop idea:

Eight Sleep Pod 5 cover outlet
-> small 12V brushless inline pump
-> aquarium compressor chiller
-> Eight Sleep Pod 5 cover inlet

Service ports:

High point:
T-fitting -> valve -> capped fill/bleed tube

Low point:
T-fitting -> valve -> drain hose to bucket

I do not want a permanent reservoir. I’m okay using a bucket only when filling, bleeding, or draining.

Proposed shopping list

Chiller

Poafamx / AL-160 / 42 gal / 1/10 HP aquarium chiller

Amazon examples I found:

Reasoning: It’s a compressor model, relatively affordable, and some listings claim under 35 dB. I’m skeptical of that number, so I’d test it myself and return it if it’s loud.

Pump

TOPSFLO TL-B10-A12-0703 or similar 12V brushless DC pump.

Target pump specs:

12V DC
~7 L/min
~3 m head
~6–8 W
continuous duty
inline capable
not dry-run safe

Reasoning: This seems closer to the pump class used in older Eight Sleep units than a big aquarium pump. I originally looked at Sicce Syncra pumps, but they may be overkill flow-wise.

Pump power

12V DC power supply, probably 2A minimum, ideally UL-listed.

Tubing

Silicone tubing, but I’m not buying final adapters until I physically measure the Pod 5 tubing ID/OD.

Service fittings

  • 2x barbed T-fittings
  • 2x small ball valves
  • caps/plugs
  • drain hose
  • optional flow indicator

Clamps

Stainless worm-drive or Oetiker clamps on every barb. No zip-tie-only connections.

Leak/safety

  • leak tray / boot tray under all wet hardware
  • water leak detector, probably Govee or similar
  • GFCI outlet or plug-in GFCI adapter
  • rubber/foam isolation under pump/chiller
  • soft tubing near pump to reduce vibration transfer

Fluid

  • distilled water
  • some kind of compatible loop treatment / biocide

Still undecided here. I don’t want to use anything that might damage the Pod cover or tubing.

Things I’m unsure about

  1. Is the Poafamx chiller actually quiet enough, or are the “under 35 dB” claims fantasy?
  2. Is a 1/10 HP compressor chiller the right size for a king-size hydronic mattress cover?
  3. Is the TOPSFLO-style pump too weak, too strong, or about right?
  4. Should I add a tiny inline expansion chamber even if I don’t want a reservoir?
  5. Is running this without a reservoir going to be annoying to fill/bleed?
  6. Any reason this closed-loop design would create pressure problems for the Eight Sleep cover?
  7. What’s the best way to avoid condensation if I’m cooling below room temp?
  8. Any recommendations for safe biocide / loop treatment that won’t damage the cover?
  9. Has anyone measured the Pod 5 cover tubing ID/OD or connector type?
  10. Am I missing a better quiet compressor chiller under/near $350?

Basically: does this look reasonable, or am I about to build a quiet-looking but actually loud/leaky mattress aquarium?

Would appreciate any criticism, especially from people who have torn down Pods, repaired leaks, built DIY chillers, or measured the noise on these aquarium compressor units.

u/KolorOner — 1 day ago