u/Legionaire_Pdx

Hey all, I am trying to git good at eu5, and was thinking of doing a similar opening thing like in eu4, where I grant all the strong estate privileges before even unpausing.

This is where my question comes in: does it make sense to do the same in eu5? or should I just start with what i have and only add/remove privileges later on down the line?

Here are some strong contenders:

1. Zimmi:
   • Revoke
     • Grant Administrative Posts (Modifiers: -5% Noble Estate Satisfaction Equilibrium, Efficiency of Our Cabinet: +5%)
   • Grant
     • Dimmi Bureaucrats (humanist, Estate Satisfaction Equilibrium)
     • Promote Local Hierarchy (+10% Maximum Tax fir Noble Estate)
2. Commoners
   • Grant
     • Autonomous Villages
     • Commoners in the Administration
3. Burghers
   • Grant
     • Building Roads Rights
     • Control over the Coinage
     • Land of Commerce
     • Treasury Rights
     • Urban Development
4. Ulama
   • Grant
     • Expansionist Zealotry
     • Freedom of Interpretation
     • Protected Faith of the Religious
5. Guzat
   • Grant
     • Auxilium et Consilium
     • Manorial Courts
     • Offensive Military Doctrine

At game start, Ottomans has the following estate loyalties:
Nobility: 60%, Every other estate: 50%.

29 stability and 96 legitimacy

Also, I enacted the Government reforms "Feudal Nobility" (for more nobility loyalty) and "Trade office Network" (for trade advantage when i take constantinople)

After granting and revoking everything listed, here are the new stats:

Estate | Current Satisfaction | Satisfaction Equilibrium (at max tax)

Nobility: 37% - 50,48%

Ulama: 69% - 27,65%

Burghers: 95% - 60,24%

Commoners: 74% - 46,79%

Zimi: 19% - 45,64

Tribes: 49% - Ignore this, no money can be taxed from them anyway

I will be starting my playthrough with this setup, because i feel like it gives me as many bonuses as i can get this early on and i can conquer anatolia and the balkans quicker with the extra levies, morale, tax and other stuff gained from these privileges.

But i would really appreciate other perspectives on this, because i know that because of all these privileges, it will be a lot harder to rein in the estates later on, but I honestly never really got that far.

My current play-loop consists of starting a new playthrough, focusing on specific mechanics, trying to learn how they work, then once i think i understood how it works, start a new playthrough and test my "new" knowledge to see if i was even right or made a mistake...

Thanks in advance!