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Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) FAST TRACK - Episode 10 -  Finale On-Air ☀️🧛

Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) FAST TRACK - Episode 10 - Finale On-Air ☀️🧛

Well. Here we go.

I had just posted the regular Episode 9 On-Air, and then WeTV Thailand came with an announcement on X.

The Episode 10 Fast Track has been delayed to 11:00 PM Thailand time tonight.

📺 WHERE TO WATCH & RELEASE TIMES

NOUR is a WeTV Original and the UNCUT version is available on WeTV.

🇹🇭 Thailand: 23:00 ICT
🇪🇺 Central Europe: 18:00 CEST
🇺🇸 US Central: 11:00 AM CDT

So yes, Episode 10 IS getting a Fast Track release today. Just later than originally planned.

This whole Fast Track, or what WeTV calls Express in the app, situation with NOUR has been chaotic imo.

Last week, WeTV suddenly announced the Episode 9 Fast Track only about two hours before it became available. It had not been part of the schedule I had seen before, so that surprised me.

At first I thought Episode 10 would automatically get the same treatment this week.

Then I started doubting that again because the regular finale is next Wednesday, October 14, on the same day as the big cinema finale in Bangkok. I could understand viewers wanting everyone to experience the ending together instead of having the finale available a week earlier for people who pay for Fast Track.

But then again, WeTV has done the same thing with other shows too, releasing the Fast Track finale a week before the cinema finale.

Still, WeTV has not made this easy to follow.

I do not get a notification in the app or an email telling me when a Fast Track episode suddenly becomes available. Yesterday I only started seeing information through other sources saying that Episode 10 would indeed be released today.

And for some reason I still cannot watch the Fast Track episodes through the WeTV app on my television. Episode 9 works on my smartphone, but not on the TV app.

So now I am wondering if I should even buy this episode tonight, or pay to support the series and somehow manage not to watch it until next week.

I don't think I am capable of that. 😂

⚠️ PLEASE KEEP EPISODE 10 SPOILERS HERE

This thread is for viewers watching Episode 10 through WeTV Fast Track / Express.

The regular Episode 9 On-Air has only just gone up, and many viewers will not see the finale until the normal Episode 10 release on October 14.

WeTV, Tailai Entertainment and several members of the cast have already asked viewers not to spoil Fast Track episodes.

That did not exactly stop Episode 9 spoilers from appearing on Instagram, TikTok and elsewhere last week.

So if you are waiting for the regular finale, my advice remains the same as in the Episode 9 On-Air:

Be VERY careful on social media this week.

Sometimes you do not even have to search for a spoiler. You open the app and there it is.

Please do not take Episode 10 screenshots, clips or plot details into the regular Episode 9 On-Air.

I am making this separate thread precisely so those of us who do watch Fast Track have somewhere to discuss the finale without ruining it for everyone else.

And after nine episodes, an absurd number of theories, investigations, soul colours, blood, murder and me spending far too much time digging through interviews, lives and comments...

We have reached the finale.

I am absolutely not ready. 😭 But maybe that is also not the right way to go into this finale, already thinking about the emptiness I will probably feel right after it. I have to enjoy the moment.

And I think that is also one of the messages NOUR has been giving us, to live in the here and now.

Ken has to learn that. James keeps trying to make him believe it. And now we will see where that takes them.

Every time I think about this part of the story, an emotional TongTong somehow pops into my head. Especially when he talks about this side of Ken, or when he watches scenes like the one with Ken's old friend. That idea that you have to live your life while you have it, and try to be happy. So instead of mourning the ending, I will try, and try is the word, to enjoy it.

And PS: I would really appreciate it if my On-Air post for episode 9 could be read. I have spent much more time on that than on this post.😊

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 8 days ago

Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) - Episode 9 - Once Upon a Sun ☀️

☀️ EPISODE 9: ONCE UPON A SUN

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Official keyword: Once Upon a Sun

Hashtag: #NOURTheSeriesEP9 #NourTheSeries

⚠️ PLEASE NOTE

To prevent this post from getting automatically removed by Reddit's filters, there are no external web links in the main body.

All official links, streaming links, cast social media, interviews, BTS videos, teasers, OST and the previous NOUR posts are collected in the pinned comment below. There are quite a lot of them, so the list continues in the reply directly underneath that comment.

🤝 BOYSLOVE COMMUNITY & ACCESSIBILITY

As always, this On-Air is open to everyone who wants to discuss NOUR. I believe that an On-Air thread is a service meant for every member of this subreddit. I personally refuse to block anyone.

⚠️ 🔞 CONTENT WARNING & AGE RATING (18+)

Please know that NOUR is an 18+ series and deals with death, trauma, violence and supernatural themes.

📺 WHERE TO WATCH & RELEASE TIMES

NOUR is a WeTV Original and the UNCUT version is available on WeTV.

Every Wednesday

🇹🇭 Thailand VIP: 7:30 PM ICT | Free: 8:00 PM ICT

🇪🇺 Central Europe VIP: 14.30 CEST | Free: 15:00 PM CEST

🇺🇸 US Central VIP: 7:30 AM CDT | Free: 8:00 AM CDT

10 episodes

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⚠️ WeTV EXPRESS / FAST TRACK UPDATE

When WeTV suddenly announced the Fast Track / Express release of Episode 9 only about two hours before it became available, I was surprised. It had not been part of the schedule.

But then, I was quite sure that Episode 10 would also get an Express release this week. Yesterday, I started to doubt that.

The reason is that the final episode will have a big cinema screening in Bangkok on October 14, the same day as the regular Episode 10 release.

It also does not help that WeTV is not very clear about this. I do not get a notification in the app or an email telling me when a new Express episode is going to become available. Yesterday I eventually started seeing information from other sources saying that Episode 10 will indeed be available through Express today.

I have also seen quite a few viewers who are not happy about that decision. They would rather have the finale released for everyone on the same day, especially with the big cinema finale happening next week, instead of having the ending available today. I myself have also another reason to be unhappy, no matter what I have tried, I still cannot watch Episode 9 through the WeTV app on my television. The Fast Track episode works on my smartphone, but not on the TV app.

So now I am still deciding whether I even want to pay for Episode 10 today if I am going to be forced to watch the finale on my phone. Or I will pay to support the show, but not watch it, if I am capable to do that.😄

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🙈🚨IMPORTANT SPOILER WARNING FAST TRACK / EXPRESS + SOCIAL MEDIA

Episode 9 was already available through WeTV express / fast track last week.

Despite WeTV, Tailai Entertainment and several members of the cast asking people not to spoil it, spoilers have been circulating on Instagram, TikTok and other social media.

So if you are not planning to watch Episode 10 through Fast Track and want to experience the finale without knowing what happens:

Be very careful on social media this week. Even opening your social media account and that can be the first thing you will see.

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📜 OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS - WeTV

In a misty city haunted by unexplained fires, hot-blooded young police officer James crosses paths with the enigmatic Captain Ken. James soon discovers that his supernatural ability to "read" people doesn't work on Ken, who is secretly an immortal man hiding a centuries-old curse.

At the same time, forensic pathologist Dr. Jirat and rescue worker Chita, who can see the dead, get pulled deeper into a world where the line between life and death starts to blur. Together, they become entangled in an investigation that will change their lives forever.

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🌌⋆.˚ ☾⭒.˚ WHAT HAPPENED IN EPISODE 8?

And here we are. Episode 9.

I am still not completely over Episode 8, and having read the reactions, I am not the only one.

Before we get into today's episode, I want to look back at what happened last week, because Episode 8 was, for me, one of the most impactful episodes of the series so far.

Episode 8 gave us Chita and Jirat at their darkest and most desperate.

The scenes between Phoom as Chita and Toey as Dr. Jirat were extraordinary. We have had vampire BLs before, but I cannot remember seeing anything quite like this in a BL series. Or any series at all.

It was brutal, emotional, intimate and disturbing all at once.

And most importantly, it did not feel like shock value for the sake of shock value. Everything that happened came directly out of who Chita and Jirat are now. I also can't forget what happened after the NC, how upset both Jirat and Chita were.

For me, this was vampires done right, as I recall someone writing these exact same words. (Snidget-88 in the comments).

And for unexplainable reasons, if you become a Nour, that means that if you wake up after the proces, you will be totally naked! 😄

I will add an Episode 8 recap here for anyone who wants to refresh their memory before Episode 9.

🔁🎬EPISODE 8 RECAP VIDEO

I am NEVER going to do this again. Failure after failure and costed me hours. 😬

Recap video edited by myself

📝EPISODE 8 RECAP FROM X

I came across a Thai recap of Episode 8 on X by timarkrabjam. I can not post the link here directly, but I noticed that director Boss Wasakorn had responded to it.

Translated from Thai

What I really liked was the way the recap described Chita and Jirat, because it was very close to how I felt watching them. For me, Episode 8 was their episode.

The recap especially praised Toey in the scenes where Jirat is struggling with what his body suddenly needs. It did not treat that as simple hunger. You can still see Jirat fighting against it, because hurting other people is not who he is.

And then there is Chita.

The recap described his actions as morally grey devotion, and I think that fits him almost perfectly in this episode.

What Chita does is obviously not morally clean. But I never watched him and thought he was doing terrible things because he enjoyed them. He does them because, in that moment, he sees only one thing that matters and that is that Jirat has to survive.

That is also why Phoom impressed me so much here. The reveal of what Chita is was already huge, but his performance in Episode 8 gave the character much more weight than just “surprise, he is dangerous too.”

The recap also interpreted the blue colour grading later in the episode as creating almost a world outside normal reality, where Chita and Jirat are cut off from everything outside them and even from the consequences of what has happened.

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💬 WHAT REDDITORS SAID AFTER EPISODE 8

Reading the reactions after Episode 8, I was definitely not the only one sitting there wondering what I had just watched.

One viewer called it their favourite single BL episode of the year, with another replying that all the choices felt satisfying because the series is really committing to its plot.

Someone else said they had not been this “enthralled and confused” by a series since 4Minutes, which honestly made me laugh because that is a pretty accurate description of my own state after the episode.

Another reaction praised the writing team for simply going there and not becoming afraid of the story they had decided to tell. That is probably one of the things I appreciate most about NOUR too. Even when it gets dark or uncomfortable, it does not suddenly pull back because a safer choice would be easier.

And then I found this review which explains very well why I think more people should be watching this series.

They wrote that none of us are ready to say goodbye and hoped NOUR gets the viewers and recognition it deserves, praising the storyline, acting, cinematography, originality, visuals and the way its darker fantasy elements are woven together.

And yes, I completely agree with the shortest part of that review:

“We got served!”

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🤝 TOEY & PHOOM: FROM CASTING TO CHITA & JIRAT

After Episode 8, I wanted to give Toey and Phoom more space here. Their acting was phenomenal, imo.

I already had much info gathered about them, weeks and weeks, but every time thinking I should make someday a separate post, but I decided that this can not wait any longer. The more I found out about how they ended up playing Jirat and Chita, the more interesting their partnership became to me.

Phoom has explained that when he first met Toey, he was quite intimidated. This was Toey Pongsakorn, an actor with many years of experience, while Phoom was more or less a newbie.

Their first meeting was arranged by director Boss Wasakorn. Phoom was called into the office, Toey came in, they sat together and talked, and Boss encouraged them to sit closer because they might end up acting together. And they did.

What I did NOT know until Phoom recently revealed it himself is that the roles were originally supposed to be the other way around.

Toey was going to play Chita.
Phoom was going to play Dr. Jirat.

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After more casting, workshops and discussions between the writers, producers and director, the decision was eventually made to switch them.

After watching Episode 8, I find it impossible now to imagine them the other way around. 😄

Phoom also said that they had around four to five months of workshops before filming, and that he went through the casting process several times before finally becoming Chita.

A lot of work went into Chita physically too. Phoom explained that Chita's way of moving was something he worked on for a long time with Boss Wasakorn. Chita has a problem with his left leg, so Phoom did not simply decide to “walk with a limp”. He observed people with leg problems and talked to them about what they feel when they walk or run.

He also worked on things like how Chita breathes, speaks and moves his body.

That made me think again about all those moments where I was already staring at Chita's walk, his posture and the differences in how he moves in certain scenes.

What I also like is hearing Phoom talk about how his relationship with Toey changed. In the beginning he was careful around him and did not tease him much because they had only just met and he was very aware that Toey was the more experienced actor.

Now, that is a very different story.

Phoom started teasing him almost immediately. He once told Toey that they had met before and that Toey had barely acknowledged him. Toey took him seriously and immediately worried that he had been rude. It was not true, Phoom was just messing with him.😂

Phoom has said that he is much more comfortable with Toey now because Toey understands his personality and knows his limits. He also described Toey as someone like an older brother, somebody with more experience and a different perspective who he can learn from.

And watching their social media, that comfort is not difficult to see.

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Fans have even started joking that sometimes you have to check twice whether you are looking at Toey's account or Phoom's, because so much of what they post now seems to involve the other.

Toey also recently said when he was asked to name a flaw of Phoom, that he is too handsome, because people can become distracted by his looks instead of paying attention to how good his acting is.

But Toey himself is also a fantastic actor, the Thai recap I mentioned earlier praised the way Toey plays Jirat after his transformation. It is not simply “he is hungry now”. You can see Jirat's body demanding one thing while the person he has always been is still fighting against it.

And that fits something Toey has said about NOUR. Scenes and individual shots contain more information than you realise, and that the director and actors did a LOT of preparation before filming.

And Toey had a different challenge with Jirat. He has to play a rational, medically trained and normally controlled person who is little by little pulled into something completely outside what he understands. By Episode 8 that control is almost completely gone, but Toey still makes Jirat feel like the same person inside his Nour personality.

And acting is not the only thing Phoom is good at. He can sing, dance, act, draw, and he also edits video. One of the group videos made with the cast was Phoom's own idea, which he proposed to Tailai, and he later edited the material himself, including artwork and effects.

Source: Instagram Phoom @Wooooyd

He has also finished a degree in Aeronautical Engineering.

His graduation ceremony at Kasetsart University is tomorrow, October 8.

Fans are welcome tomorrow.

There is also one thing I find quite funny about Toey and Phoom.

They can both be just a little bit... too informative.

Not necessarily by giving an obvious spoiler, but by casually saying things separately from each other. I have already managed to combine something Phoom said with something Toey said and make a prediction about what I think is going to happen. And at this point I am almost certain I am right.

I am NOT writing that theory here yet. 😂 But if it happens, I am coming back to those two comments.

After Episode 8 especially, I think what I appreciate most about Toey and Phoom is that their scenes do not only work because they look good together or because they have chemistry.

You can see how much preparation went into these characters, and how much they trust each other, it was Phoom who said that Toey led him through this.

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There is also something else I remember from OOPS! BROS!, episode 3. During a conversation about careers, success and what they expect from acting in AKINA (yes, this was probably filmed beginning of February or the end of January 2026). Boss Wasakorn got a bit emotional when he explained how people had changed after Top Form became a success and you saw Toey nodding. Toey was very clear about the importance of not abandoning the person you are working with.

They recorded Rainbow Unfulfilled together for the NOUR OST, perform together, appear together in Tailai content and increasingly turn up on each other's social media. Plus of course the Valentine pictures that I posted and mentioned in the On-Air of episode 5.

The information I gathered here are coming from the social media sources of Toey and Phoom, Tailai accounts and also a thank you to Aurora_wuv on YouTube for capturing the lives of the actors.

Source: Instagram Toey, @toey_pongsakorn

📜 OFFICIAL EPISODE 9 SYNOPSIS

The official stills and synopsis for Episode 9 were released unusually early this time.

The strange part is that parts of the synopsis almost sound as if they are already moving into Episode 10 territory, so I am putting it behind spoiler tags even though this thread is already marked for spoilers.

Translated from Thai. Source: Nourtheseries account on X.

>>!When James discovers that Ken is secretly making a deal with a murderer, he devises a plan to protect Ken without him knowing. However, this leads to a major confrontation between the police and a terrifying force. At the last minute, Ken has a change of heart, but the murderer escapes. !<
>
>>!James, no longer trusting Ken, sets out to hunt him down alone, while Ken chooses to pursue and protect James, even knowing that the end might mean losing what he has waited for for two hundred years.!<

I have also been waiting for the usual Episode 9 preview video on YouTube.

For the past couple of weeks those previews appeared around noon or early afternoon CEST, so I kept checking for almost twelve hours. And even now, writing this only a couple of hours before airing, there is still no preview video.

If someone wants to see the stills/photos from episodes 9, I had them posted yesterday in a preview post, called NOUR (นูร์) No Episode 9 preview yet. WeTV already releasing the synopsis and stills early 📸🖼.

The photo's up here are the BTS photo's from episode 8.

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🗣️ WHAT THE SUBTITLES CANNOT SHOW

Chocominnie pointed out a Thai-language detail from Episode 8 that I would never have caught from the English subtitles.

When talking about Ken's former friend:

>The way they called each other มึง (mueng / it means “you” in a rude way) and called themselves as กู (ku/ it means “I” in a rude way) mean that they are close friends so they used vulgar words with each other. If they are lover, they would called themselves ชั้น (chan/ polite pronoun for “I”) and called each other คุณ (khun/ polite pronoun for “you”). So Thai people will immediately understand that these 2 are just friends when they watch that scene.

Thai has different ways of saying “I” and “you” depending on intimacy, respect and even anger. Using กู (gu/ku) and มึง (mueng) with each is very informal and are vulgar pronouns.

The same words can also show a loss of respect. In Episode 5, James switches to them when he is furious with Ken, and goes back to more polite language after he believes Ken’s explanation.

What I found interesting is that Jirat also uses those rough pronouns with Chita in Episode 8 afterwards. Chocominnie interprets that as Jirat being so confused and conflicted that he does not even know anymore how he should address Chita.

And that is what subtitles cannot fully translate. In English, it is always "I" and "you", in my language there are two different ways to say you, namely "jij" and the more formal one, "U". The Thai language has clearly more ways to say that, that is probably also why I will never learn Thai, it's too difficult!

Phoom was most impressed by this scene because he felt really hurt, Toey had never spoken to him like this.

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💖 ONE TRUE LOVE?

Many viewers and also I already have mentioned this, there seems to be not one true love in one's lifetime. You can have multiple, which also seems fitting because if a Nour lives for hundreds of years, that will be sad, but also for us mortals.

Chocominnie has explained that from a Buddhist POV, this is not that strange. If people pass through many different lives, the idea that there must be only one soulmate who somehow has to be born at exactly the right time and place in every lifetime becomes too complicated, especially when someone is incarnated as an animal.

So, I think that at this moment it is safe for me to say, that in NOUR, two people that genuinely love each other, can be each other's true love. And that this can happen multiple times.

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📱 THIS WEEK IN THE CAST LIVES

There have been quite a few lives this past week, especially from Boss, but also Anton and Phoom. Anton does sing a lot and plays his guitar.

Boss has talked quite a lot about what happens after NOUR ends. Since this is his first acting series, he has said more than once that he has no idea what life after the show will look like.

He hopes there will be events, fan meetings and other opportunities to meet viewers, including outside Thailand. He joked that he is afraid nobody would turn up if he organised a fan meeting, while fans were already asking him about Korea and China.

He has also been very realistic about another series. Boss clearly wants another project, but he explained that producing a series costs a lot of money and depends on whether producers and the company see enough potential to invest again. He repeatedly asked viewers to keep supporting not only him, but the whole NOUR cast, because that support can help create future opportunities.

Something else I find quite funny is how closely Boss is following his own social-media growth. He talks about the numbers during his lives, compares how TikTok and Instagram reach people, and recently reached 100,000 followers on TikTok while he was live. He immediately turned 100K on Instagram into the next goal and even created an Instagram broadcast channel so he can update fans directly.

Considering his background in business and marketing, I am not surprised that he is analysing his own social media. Boss minored in Marketing during his BBA, spent a semester at Nottingham Trent University studying subjects including business strategy and branding communication/management, and says he wrote a paper analysing the marketing of the entertainment industry in England.

In the live, he explains exactly how brands look at virality, online engagement, fan-generated clips and audience numbers when deciding whom to hire as presenters or for events.

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And you can hear that the ending of NOUR is starting to become real for him. He talked about still wanting to promote the series even though it is almost over, and about not really being able to imagine yet what comes afterwards.

Phoom has been revealing enough behind-the-scenes information and his attachment to Toey, which I already wrote about above.

And Anton has also spoken about wanting to continue acting after NOUR, while being careful not to present anything as a confirmed next project.

The series is almost ending, the cast themselves are very proud of what they made, and they are right to be proud. Not very ready to leave it behind but certainly hoping that NOUR opens the door to whatever comes next.

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👥 THE SIX MAIN CAST MEMBERS

🤵 TongTong (Kitsakorn Kanogtorn) as Ken

TongTong started his career as a singer and became widely known in Thailand after competing in The Star Season 12. BL viewers may also know him from To Sir, With Love and more recently The Wicked Game.

🤵 Boss (Patthakarn Thanasiriudom) as James

NOUR is Boss' acting debut. Before becoming an actor, he worked as a model while building a corporate career after graduating from Thammasat Business School. He later left corporate life to commit fully to acting.

I wrote a separate post about Boss' rather remarkable route from corporate life to becoming the main lead in NOUR:
Boss Patthakarn (NOUR) - from corporate life to starring as the main lead 💼✨
The link is in the pinned comment below.

🤵 Toey (Pongsakorn Mettarikanon) as Dr. Jirat

Toey entered the entertainment industry through The Idol Project 2 and has since had a long career in Thai films and dramas. BL viewers may also recognise him as Jade from Top Form.

🤵 Phoom (Chawonwat Thongyoo) as Chita

Phoom participated in the Korean-Chinese survival show Starlight Boys and previously appeared in the BL series You Are My Arm.

🤵 Anton Krueger as Panin

Anton is a Thai-German actor and artist signed under Tailai Entertainment. NOUR is his first acting role.

🤵 Little (Siravit Imsee) as Rain

Little previously played supporting roles in several series and may be familiar to BL viewers from Sangmin Dinneaw.

I included more about the six actors, their backgrounds and what they have said about each other in the Episode 5 On-Air.

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👥 OTHER CAST MEMBERS

🤵 Peanut Peeranat Veeranipitkul as Peter (Phakin)
🤵 Ohm (Nutthapoom Chaisurasintawee) as Tee
👩‍💼 Kim (Kanoklak Vanichprapa) as Tangmay
👩‍💼 Namnung (Namnung Van De Ven) as Pear
🤵 Lookgolf (Thanakorn Thipsuk) as Phong

🎬 DIRECTOR & SCREENWRITER

Boss Wasakorn Khumklaowiriya

Boss Wasakorn directed NOUR and is also part of its writing team. Unlike many Thai BL series, NOUR is an original story rather than an adaptation of a novel, which means the world and its mythology were created specifically for the series.

He previously directed Top Form, and before moving into series work he was known for directing high-end commercials.

🏠 Production Company

Tailai Entertainment / WeTV Original

📌 Their official social media accounts can also be found in the pinned comment below.

🎵 OFFICIAL SOUNDTRACKS & MUSIC

The NOUR OST currently includes:

🎵 The Sweetest Line - Peanut

🎵 Unspoken Load - Little & Anton

🎵 Rainbow Unfulfilled - Toey & Phoom

I am also slightly obsessed at the moment with the song used for James and Ken's dance in Episode 6. It's not from the 1960s but very new and was found in Epidemic sound, it is a platform with royalty-free music that can safely be used, like in this series.

The song is In the World All Alone by OTE, and it was released in 2025.

I posted a clip of Ken and James dancing to that scene in the On-Air post from last week, episode 8.

👨‍🎤Yesterday, Boss Patthakarn released his own version of “The Sweetest Line” for the official NOUR The Series OST. And, yes, it is the same song we already know from Peanut Peeranat.

So we now have two versions of “The Sweetest Line”: Peanut's and Boss's.

I have associated this song with Peanut, so hearing Boss perform it this close to the finale feels special.

The Spotify link is in the pinned comment.

📺 THE ON-AIRS

Episodes 1 & 2
The introduction to NOUR, the story, the cast and the original character backgrounds from press interviews.

Episode 3
More about Ken, his history, his immortality and the timeline of his very long life.

Episode 4: Shades of the Soul
More about Nakhon Sawan, colours, symbolism and visual clues. This is also where I was already wondering about the changing colours James sees and whether they might somehow connect to the idea of a rainbow. Which has suddenly become interesting today. 😂🌈

Episode 5: Secret of Shadow
More cast and production background, music, the tree scene and a LOT of discussion and theories in the comments.

Episode 6: Melody in Shadow
Ken's past, new cast and production information, interviews, reaction material and an increasingly ridiculous number of theories about Chita in the comments.

Episode 7: The Rainbow of Fate
The rainbow theory became much more important here, together with Ken's soft-focus gaze, James' soul colours and the growing suspicion around Chita.

Episode 8: All Night Long

Chita and Jirat after the reveal, the darker Nour mythology, questions about what Chita really is.

Episode 9: FAST TRACK

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🔎 SEPARATE NOUR POSTS

💼 Boss Patthakarn: From corporate life to starring as the main lead
This one started as an introduction to Boss and somehow turned into an ongoing reference post about his modeling and corporate career, his decision to become an actor, his early involvement in the project, workshops and the increasingly complicated AKINA → NOUR timeline.

🎭 “Actors can perform chemistry”
My post about former WeTV producer Earnie J and his very interesting comments about casting around 200 actors, fixed couples, chemistry and how BL casting actually works. This also became relevant to the wider story behind Tailai and NOUR.

🏠🖤 TongTong's almost completely black house
Yes, this happened because of NOUR too. 😂 I went looking into TongTong and somehow ended up researching his extremely distinctive almost-all-black interior.

🌍📈 Episode 5 feels like a turning point for NOUR
My attempt to follow how the attention around the series was changing, using the WeTV rankings, social media trends, increasingly early promotion and the sudden amount of material appearing around the show. We now have Episode 6 data to compare with it too.

🍯🎥 The Episode 5 basement scene and what Top Form taught me about filming intimate scenes
This started with my curiosity about the Ken/James basement scene and turned into a much larger production rabbit hole involving director Boss Wasa, Top Form, workshops, camera placement, lighting and how these scenes are prepared.

🥹 What if TongTong cries at the fan gathering?
Well... he did. 😂 This post later became even more meaningful after TongTong thanked the audience and talked about NOUR having started from zero and how much the viewers helped the series grow.

👀❤️ Ken (NOUR) is hopelessly devoted to James
A closer look at TongTong's performance as Ken, especially the gradual change in his face and eyes when he looks at James. This now connects very nicely with Boss Wasa's explanation that TongTong deliberately trained a distant soft-focus gaze for someone who has been alive for centuries.

🌈🎶NOUR, the full live performances (fancam) of Rainbow Unfulfilled 🌈performed by Toey & Phoom and The Sweetest Line by Peanut. 🥰
The live performances by Toey, Phoom and Peanut, the song itself and my earlier thoughts about the rainbow imagery. This became considerably more interesting after Boss Wasa finally explained how soul colours and the rainbow actually work in NOUR.

📖🔥 NOUR and The Last Oath are the two BLs I keep looking forward to most
Why I am enjoying having an original supernatural BL where romance, crime and mystery are all tangled together and no source material to read, so everyone is guessing about what to come.

📸 NOUR EP8 spoiler. I tried to keep this for tomorrow. I failed. 😭
The official Episode 8 material arrived unusually early this week and contained considerably more information than I expected, including Jirat's return and the conflict developing between what James wants and what Ken may need.

🎬 NOUR (นูร์) - Episode 8 - Preview!
A closer look at the official preview and the new questions it created before the episode aired.

🍀Boss (NOUR) turned replies on his IG channel😂... and reveal fandom name! That was hilarious. I can't link this post in the comment section because that post was not possible because of rule number 8. It's on another subreddit. But with the search option and the title, it's easy to look up.

The EP1–6 NOUR recap is both unhinged and surprisingly useful 😂

I am not ready to say goodbye to NOUR. 😭

NOUR (นูร์) No Episode 9 preview yet. WeTV already releasing the synopsis and stills early 📸🖼

And now...

ONCE UPON A SUN ☀️

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 8 days ago

Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) FAST TRACK - Episode 9

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From today, NOUR has entered Fast Track. Viewers who purchased Fast Track access can already watch Episode 9 today.

🤫🚨⚠️ REMINDER FAST TRACK

Please be extra careful with spoilers.

WeTV Thailand has explicitly asked viewers not to share or distribute content from the Fast Track episode before its regular broadcast.

The same request is also being repeated right now during the TikTok Live with all six main cast members: please do not spoil Episode 9 for people who are waiting for the regular release.

So please keep all Episode 9 discussion completely out of this Episode 8 On-Air. No plot details, screenshots, clips, quotes or hints from Episode 9 here.

If I post a separate Fast Track On-Air, it will be kept very minimal and clearly separated from the regular Episode 8 discussion.

⚠️ 🔞 CONTENT WARNING & AGE RATING (18+)

Please know that NOUR is an 18+ series and deals with death, trauma, violence and supernatural themes.

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 15 days ago

Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) - Episode 8 - All Night Long 🌌⋆.˚ ☾⭒.˚

🌌⋆.˚ ☾⭒.˚ EPISODE 8: ALL NIGHT LONG

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Official keyword: All Night Long

Hashtag: #NOURTheSeriesEP8

Eight episodes.

THREE LEFT. How did we get here already?

The title immediately did one thing to me: it reminded me of Lionel Richie. I always connect things and events to music.

We already got the official Episode 8 photos AND a surprisingly detailed synopsis well before airing this time, yesterday. Those photo's, I placed in the post called NOUR EP8 spoiler. I tried to keep this for tomorrow. I failed. 😭

Because today we got NEW episode 8 photos, I have put them in this post.

I still don't understand their promotional schedule. Two weeks ago we were waiting until almost the last minute. Last week the preview arrived much earlier. At this point I have stopped trying to predict this. 😂

⚠️ FAST TRACK UPDATE

WeTV Thailand only announced the Fast Track release of Episode 9 around two hours ago. This was not part of the previously announced schedule and came as a surprise to me as well. WeTV has explicitly asked viewers not to distribute Fast Track content before its regular broadcast. I have posted a very small Fast Track On-Air with only the bare minimum.

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⚠️ PLEASE NOTE

To prevent this post from getting automatically removed by Reddit's filters, there are no external web links in the main body.

All official links, streaming links, cast social media, interviews, BTS videos, teasers, OST and the previous NOUR posts are collected in the pinned comment below. There are quite a lot of them, so the list continues in the reply directly underneath that comment.

🤝 BOYSLOVE COMMUNITY & ACCESSIBILITY

As always, this On-Air is open to everyone who wants to discuss NOUR. I believe that an On-Air thread is a service meant for every member of this subreddit. I personally refuse to block anyone.

⚠️ 🔞 CONTENT WARNING & AGE RATING (18+)

Please know that NOUR is an 18+ series and deals with death, trauma, violence and supernatural themes.

📺 WHERE TO WATCH & RELEASE TIMES

NOUR is a WeTV Original and the UNCUT version is available on WeTV.

Every Wednesday

🇹🇭 Thailand VIP: 7:30 PM ICT | Free: 8:00 PM ICT

🇪🇺 Central Europe VIP: 14.30 CEST | Free: 15:00 PM CEST

🇺🇸 US Central VIP: 7:30 AM CDT | Free: 8:00 AM CDT

10 episodes

📜 OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS - WeTV

In a misty city haunted by unexplained fires, hot-blooded young police officer James crosses paths with the enigmatic Captain Ken. James soon discovers that his supernatural ability to "read" people doesn't work on Ken, who is secretly an immortal man hiding a centuries-old curse.

At the same time, forensic pathologist Dr. Jirat and rescue worker Chita, who can see the dead, get pulled deeper into a world where the line between life and death starts to blur. Together, they become entangled in an investigation that will change their lives forever.

🌈 WHAT HAPPENED IN EPISODE 7?

Episode 7 answered some questions but also left a lot unanswered.

The investigation brought Tee's phone back into the story. We learned from episode 6, thanks Peter, that it contained a way of tracking Pear, which probably explains why that phone had been so important from the moment Tee died and why someone had previously tried to retrieve it from the police station. The messages and connection between Tee and Pear also became much more clear.

Meanwhile, Chita had already warned Jirat to stay away from Pear and had even tried to persuade him to move away with him. Episode 7 made it clear that Chita's fear was justified. Pear targeted Jirat and bit him. I also heard a very noticeable snapping sound during the attack, I guess the spine, and afterwards Jirat disappeared.

And somehow, while Jirat was missing, James and Ken still found time for one of the most beautiful romantic scenes of the series. 😂

At the gas station Ken explains more about how someone becomes a Nour, while James describes a rainbow to a man who has never been able to see all of its colours. At the time it was already a beautiful scene, but it became even more interesting later when James' ability to see soul colours came back into the story. Even people in the On-Air comments were joking that maybe they should rescue Dr. Ji BEFORE flirting about rainbows. 😂

But the biggest shock was Chita.

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🩸 WHAT EXACTLY IS CHITA?

For weeks I had been asking how someone who appeared physically vulnerable could promise Jirat, under that tree, that HE would protect HIM. Episode 7 finally gave us part of the answer. Chita was nowhere near as helpless as he had allowed people to believe. Or?

When he confronted Pear on the rooftop, he revealed his strength and apparently killed her with fire. But instead of answering the question of what Chita is, that created several new ones. Is he the Nour killing other Nours, some unusually powerful type of Nour, or something else entirely?

There were also visual details that made me more suspicious. Earlier James sees Chita with a red aura, while later the Chita we see during the confrontation moves differently, does not limp and suddenly has an earring. After everything director Boss Wasa has said about deliberate visual clues, I am not ignoring it. Was this really Chita? Hopefully, this episode 8 will bring the answer, because Phoom is cryptic about that on his social media, saying

>I'll stand by what I've always said. I'm a good person

I am deliberately not putting ALL my Chita/Jirat theories in this main post.

So the more detailed clues involving Chita, Jirat, clothing, an earring, walking, aura colours, arms with a certain shirt on and other things I have stared at for far too long will probably end up in a separate spoiler-marked comment again.

What I will say here is that Episode 7 gave us several versions of Chita that don't fit together quite as neatly as I expected.

Earlier in the episode, James sees red around Chita. Later, when Chita reveals his supernatural side, there are visual differences that caught my attention.

And after what director Boss Wasa has now explained about soul colours, that red becomes much more interesting. More about that in this On-Air post.

And Chita did something else. After revealing what he could do, he looked directly at Ken.

Ken looked back.

That felt deliberate to me. Ken has already made it clear that he believes another Nour can end his immortality, Jirat knows Ken's intentions, and now he has just watched Chita demonstrate this.

James seems to understand immediately where Ken's thoughts are going. While Ken is looking at Chita, James sees multiple colours around him and also very bright and sparkly, Ken is clearly excited about what is happening. James later tells Ken that he does not want to lose him and that Ken belongs in the future he wants.

So Episode 7 leaves us with three questions going into Episode 8:

What exactly is Chita? What happened to Jirat? And now that Ken has seen what Chita can do, what is Ken going to do with that knowledge?

And apparently Episode 8 has decided those questions were not enough. 😂

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📜 OFFICIAL EPISODE 8 SYNOPSIS

So, last week, we did not get an official synopsis for episode 7, but we got one for this episode yesterday. The spoilers where too strong for me to contain, so I made a post yesterday with that information.

>>!When James discovers Ken’s dark desire, he has to find a way to stop him. Meanwhile, Jirat, who had disappeared, suddenly reappears as though nothing had happened. But Ken knows that he is no longer the same person.!<

>>!Behind everything is the murderer who killed James’ father, and that person may be the only one capable of breaking Ken’s curse of immortality. When one of them wants to kill, while the other wants to save, their relationship reaches breaking point once again.!!<

>!Jirat comes back as if nothing happened, but KEN knows he is no longer the same person!<

>!And apparently the person responsible for James' father's death may ALSO be the person who can finally break Ken's immortality.!<

>!So now James and Ken may suddenly want completely opposite things from the same person. !<Wonderful. This should go well. 😂 Of course there will be a crisis in their relationship.

And WeTV is already warning us to prepare ourselves because the story is about to get even more intense. Thank you. Very reassuring. 😭

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🌈 THE RAINBOW, what meaning does it have in NOUR?

This week Boss Wasa did another interview, and I saw him share it on Instagram. Every interview with him is very interesting because he just can't keep everything confidential. So, this one also contained spoilers.

He started talking about soul colours and rainbows.

He said that for NOUR, they thought of having normal humans just one soul colour. When someone becomes a Nour, that original colour is lost. Through drinking the blood of different people, those colours combine until the Nour becomes rainbow-coloured. That suddenly explains a lot!

I had written about that a couple of times before this interview. It does not confirm every interpretation I made about the song Rainbow Unfulfilled. See also the post with the live version of that song by Toey and Phoom, linked in the comment section.

But it does confirm something important, that the rainbow really IS connected to the colours James sees.

Ken has spent centuries unable to see all colours normally. Then James stands beside him and describes a rainbow. And James himself is the person who can see colours in people's souls.

Also, something I had completely overlooked: we all know Ken cannot see red properly, so why did he use RED TAPE to divide the office in two? Boss Wasa explained that Ken actually does not want James and himself separated. So the tape was not really about establishing a boundary at all. And, well... Ken kissed James. That boundary did not last very long anyway. 😂

However, he did not say why James is able to see that, so, he did not spill everything. 😂

Boss also explained that the colour design around the characters is deliberate. Every person has their own colour.

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👁️ JAMES, HIS BLUE EYES AND THE SOUL COLOURS

James remains one of the biggest mysteries in this series. And his blue eyes are not a new observation caused by this week's interview.

I already wrote about them in the Episode 7 On-Air, together with the fact that James can see people's auras and that we still do not understand why. Those eyes had become part of the theories around James.

There is a separate Reddit discussion about whether James could somehow be half Nour, and I had also wondered whether his father could be connected to that side of the story. I still do not think the simple answer is that James himself is just a Nour. But, what exactly is James?

Because Boss Wasa gave us the rules about soul colors and then stopped. He said that there is still something important about James' ability to see those colours that he cannot reveal yet.

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❤️ KEN & JAMES, DID KEN REALLY CHANGE HIS MIND?

This is probably the part of Episode 8 I am most nervous about. Ken has wanted to die for centuries, that is how the show started.

James now wants Ken in his future. At the end of Episode 7, he tells him exactly that. But I was already wondering after that scene whether Ken had genuinely changed his mind, or whether he was trying to reassure James.

Because now we have the Episode 8 synopsis. And apparently Ken's wish to end his immortality is still relevant. Ken has just seen someone who is capable of killing a Nour. Meanwhile, James is discovering what Ken still wants.

James is trying to build a future with Ken. Ken has spent centuries imagining a future in which he finally no longer exists. Those two desires were always going to collide eventually. Episode 8 has decided that "eventually" means TODAY.

🎬 BOSS, TONGTONG AND THE WAY THESE SCENES ARE BUILT

This is also why I keep coming back to the reaction and behind-the-scenes material. The cast and Boss have talked repeatedly about the preparation behind these characters, including workshops, meditation, building trust and working out how scenes should feel before filming them.

Boss and TongTong's reactions are often emotional. They have, like ALL the cast members, poored their hearts and souls in it. TongTong clearly had it difficult when the scene was played that his former friend said that Ken should choose to make his life happy. They were also very emotional watching last week's scene in which Panin confessed that he likes Rain as more than a friend, but is afraid to come closer because he does not want to ruin their friendship. Rain is his comfort zone and his only friend.

🧩 THE FANDOM and THE THEORIES

At this point Reddit, X and the Thai BL side of social media appear to have developed completely different criminal investigation boards. 😂 There are theories about Chita, about James, his father and so on.

And then there are theories based on names. One interesting observation from Chocominnie involves Jirat's surname, Nantawanchai, and Nantawan Garden. That observation is available with the search option here on this sub.

🌍 THE INTERNATIONAL NUMBERS AFTER EPISODE 7

More people seem to be finding the series.

Episode 7 continued the upward movement we had already been seeing, and NOUR remained the #1 Thai series on WeTV HOT Thailand during the period I was tracking.

The Episode 7 social media push also performed strongly, including the keyword reaching #10 worldwide during the trend.

These are rankings on social media, not viewing figures.

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🎥 TAILAI, OOPS! BROS! AND NOUR ME UP

Tailai is also clearly continuing to build around the cast outside the series itself.

We now have the newer YouTube content, including OOPS! BROS! and NOUR ME UP, with BossTong, ToeyPhoom and LittleAnton increasingly presented as the three pairings.

The content appears to be designed as an ongoing weekly space rather than simply one-off promotion for the drama.

Viewers are being invited to suggest ideas for future episodes, and Tailai is also giving the actors room to talk about and promote what they are doing next.

There is actually a LOT more I want to write about this.

Especially because if you go back through the older OOPS! BROS! material, there are already some very interesting comments about the actors, their casting and how they ended up here. I have actually been planning a post about this for about seven weeks. Originally I wanted to bury all of it inside my AKINA → NOUR timeline, but I have changed my mind. The variety material deserves a separate post of its own. And, interestingly, Phoom was apparently the one who suggested this type of content to his agency, Tailai Entertainment.

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👥 THE SIX MAIN CAST MEMBERS

🤵 TongTong (Kitsakorn Kanogtorn) as Ken

TongTong started his career as a singer and became widely known in Thailand after competing in The Star Season 12. BL viewers may also know him from To Sir, With Love and more recently The Wicked Game.

🤵 Boss (Patthakarn Thanasiriudom) as James

NOUR is Boss' acting debut. Before becoming an actor, he worked as a model while building a corporate career after graduating from Thammasat Business School. He later left corporate life to commit fully to acting.

I wrote a separate post about Boss' rather remarkable route from corporate life to becoming the main lead in NOUR:
Boss Patthakarn (NOUR) - from corporate life to starring as the main lead 💼✨
The link is in the pinned comment below.

🤵 Toey (Pongsakorn Mettarikanon) as Dr. Jirat

Toey entered the entertainment industry through The Idol Project 2 and has since had a long career in Thai films and dramas. BL viewers may also recognise him as Jade from Top Form.

🤵 Phoom (Chawonwat Thongyoo) as Chita

Phoom participated in the Korean-Chinese survival show Starlight Boys and previously appeared in the BL series You Are My Arm.

🤵 Anton Krueger as Panin

Anton is a Thai-German actor and artist signed under Tailai Entertainment. NOUR is his first acting role.

🤵 Little (Siravit Imsee) as Rain

Little previously played supporting roles in several series and may be familiar to BL viewers from Sangmin Dinneaw.

I included more about the six actors, their backgrounds and what they have said about each other in the Episode 5 On-Air.

👥 OTHER CAST MEMBERS

🤵 Peanut Peeranat Veeranipitkul as Peter (Phakin)
🤵 Ohm (Nutthapoom Chaisurasintawee) as Tee
👩‍💼 Kim (Kanoklak Vanichprapa) as Tangmay
👩‍💼 Namnung (Namnung Van De Ven) as Pear
🤵 Lookgolf (Thanakorn Thipsuk) as Phong

📌 Their official social media accounts can also be found in the pinned comment below.

🎵 OFFICIAL SOUNDTRACKS & MUSIC

The NOUR OST currently includes:

🎵 The Sweetest Line - Peanut

🎵 Unspoken Load - Little & Anton

🎵 Rainbow Unfulfilled - Toey & Phoom

I am also slightly obsessed at the moment with the song used for James and Ken's dance in Episode 6. I know all lyrics by heart by now, so many times I have seen and heard it.

I thought it had to be an old song from the 1960s and started looking for it because I thought it would be fun to sing it in a karaoke bar.

It is not from the sixties at all. 😂

The song is In the World All Alone by OTE, and it was released in 2025.

The production found it through Epidemic Sound, and whoever chose it for that scene knew exactly what they were doing because the retro sound fits Ken and James' dance so perfectly that I genuinely assumed I was listening to an old record.

I already posted the song in the comments of my recent NOUR / The Last Oath post.

The Spotify link is in the pinned comment.

In the World All Alone by OTE

BTS, rehearsal dance scene episode 6

📺 THE ON-AIRS

Episodes 1 & 2
The introduction to NOUR, the story, the cast and the original character backgrounds from press interviews.

Episode 3
More about Ken, his history, his immortality and the timeline of his very long life.

Episode 4: Shades of the Soul
More about Nakhon Sawan, colours, symbolism and visual clues. This is also where I was already wondering about the changing colours James sees and whether they might somehow connect to the idea of a rainbow. Which has suddenly become interesting today. 😂🌈

Episode 5: Secret of Shadow
More cast and production background, music, the tree scene and a LOT of discussion and theories in the comments.

Episode 6: Melody in Shadow
Ken's past, new cast and production information, interviews, reaction material and an increasingly ridiculous number of theories about Chita in the comments.

Episode 7: The Rainbow of Fate
The rainbow theory became much more important here. I also went deeper into Ken's deliberately trained soft-focus gaze, James' unexplained ability to see soul colours and his blue eyes, Jirat and Chita, reaction material, the growing international attention around the series and TongTong talking about NOUR having started from zero. And then Episode 7 aired and the comment section basically turned into a Chita investigation board.

Has anyone thought of the red threads in this photo and who is connected to who?

🔎 SEPARATE NOUR POSTS

💼 Boss Patthakarn: From corporate life to starring as the main lead
This one started as an introduction to Boss and somehow turned into an ongoing reference post about his modeling and corporate career, his decision to become an actor, his early involvement in the project, workshops and the increasingly complicated AKINA → NOUR timeline.

🎭 “Actors can perform chemistry”
My post about former WeTV producer Earnie J and his very interesting comments about casting around 200 actors, fixed couples, chemistry and how BL casting actually works. This also became relevant to the wider story behind Tailai and NOUR.

🏠🖤 TongTong's almost completely black house
Yes, this happened because of NOUR too. 😂 I went looking into TongTong and somehow ended up researching his extremely distinctive almost-all-black interior.

🌍📈 Episode 5 feels like a turning point for NOUR
My attempt to follow how the attention around the series was changing, using the WeTV rankings, social media trends, increasingly early promotion and the sudden amount of material appearing around the show. We now have Episode 6 data to compare with it too.

🍯🎥 The Episode 5 basement scene and what Top Form taught me about filming intimate scenes
This started with my curiosity about the Ken/James basement scene and turned into a much larger production rabbit hole involving director Boss Wasa, Top Form, workshops, camera placement, lighting and how these scenes are prepared.

🥹 What if TongTong cries at the fan gathering?
Well... he did. 😂 This post later became even more meaningful after TongTong thanked the audience and talked about NOUR having started from zero and how much the viewers helped the series grow.

👀❤️ Ken (NOUR) is hopelessly devoted to James
A closer look at TongTong's performance as Ken, especially the gradual change in his face and eyes when he looks at James. This now connects very nicely with Boss Wasa's explanation that TongTong deliberately trained a distant soft-focus gaze for someone who has been alive for centuries.

🌈🎶NOUR, the full live performances (fancam) of Rainbow Unfulfilled 🌈performed by Toey & Phoom and The Sweetest Line by Peanut. 🥰
The live performances by Toey, Phoom and Peanut, the song itself and my earlier thoughts about the rainbow imagery. This became considerably more interesting after Boss Wasa finally explained how soul colours and the rainbow actually work in NOUR.

📖🔥 NOUR and The Last Oath are the two BLs I keep looking forward to most
Why I am enjoying having an original supernatural BL where romance, crime and mystery are all tangled together and no source material to read, so everyone is guessing about what to come.

📸 NOUR EP8 spoiler. I tried to keep this for tomorrow. I failed. 😭
The official Episode 8 material arrived unusually early this week and contained considerably more information than I expected, including Jirat's return and the conflict developing between what James wants and what Ken may need.

🎬 NOUR (นูร์) - Episode 8 - Preview!
A closer look at the official preview and the new questions it created before the episode aired.

And now...

🌌⋆.˚ ☾⭒.˚ ALL NIGHT LONG

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 15 days ago
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What if TongTong cries at the fan gathering? 🥹

TongTong really did cry at the fan meeting, thanking everyone for supporting NOUR and helping the series come this far. ❤️

Credit: littlepillow32 on TikTok

I have the transcript of what TongTong said just before this.

"Our series really started from zero," and to be honest, it was quite an underrated show. But thanks to everyone's acting, the behind-the-scenes crew, and even Auntie Chang (the admin), Noor the Series has reached this point. Thank you to Chang Muang (the production company) for bringing Tongtong and all the actors to this point. Even though the popularity is growing slowly, I believe it will continue to grow and last for a long time. I love you all! Sending you all my support!

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 28 days ago
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I went down another NOUR rabbit hole and discovered TongTong's almost completely black house 🏠🏴

I suddenly came across a post on social media showing the house of TongTong Kitsakorn, currently starring as Ken in NOUR, and my first thought was, what on earth is this house? 😂

So of course I wanted to know more, and that is how I ended up on TongTong's own YouTube channel, 2TONG Channel.

I found a house tour there, uploaded on May 2, 2026. And after watching that, I went further back on his channel and found another video from May 20, 2024, when the house was still being renovated.

And his house is almost completely black.

And with completely black, I really mean almost EVERYTHING. 🏴

The ceilings are black, the doors are black, the curtains and furniture are black. His bedroom is black. His bathroom is black. Even his bathtub is black. And this was the plan all along.

At that time in 2024, the house was around 70% finished and TongTong already explained that he wanted everything black. He even talks about wanting his bathroom to feel a little bit like living in a cave.

But apparently there were very important priorities while the house wasn't even finished yet.

In the 2024 video, getting his black "Batman" bathtub upstairs and getting a huge Iron Man figure, those had to be lifted upstairs because they couldn't carry them there.

He has put much thought into this house.

He talks about the Iron Man figure and says that yes, maybe something like this can seem unnecessary, but it is what he likes. It is something he had dreamed of having. He also looks at it as a collectible that can still have value in the future.

Then almost two years later, on May 2, 2026, we can see what all those plans eventually became.

The finished house has a movie/game room, a walk-in closet, smart lighting, lots of glass, a massage chair and that completely black bathroom with the Batman bathtub. There are more collectibles around the house, including Iron Man, and he also shows his Pokémon and One Piece card collection, including graded cards.

What also surprised me is how much seems to have been specifically made or selected for this house. During the tour he talks about the doors, curtains, window film, glass, lighting, furniture, bathroom, security and many other things. There really seems to have been thought put into almost every part of it.

And he mentions company after company involved with all these different parts of the house.

Clever and business minded.

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 1 month ago

Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) - Episode 5 - Secret of Shadow

EPISODE 5: SECRET OF SHADOW

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⚠️ PLEASE NOTE

To prevent this post from getting automatically removed by the Reddit filters, there are no external web links in the main body.

All official links, streaming links, cast social media, interviews, BTS videos, teasers, OST and my previous NOUR posts are collected in the pinned comment below.

There are quite a lot of them, so the list continues in the reply directly underneath that comment.

🤝 BOYSLOVE COMMUNITY & ACCESSIBILITY

I believe that an On-Air thread is a service meant for every member of this subreddit. We all know that Reddit can sometimes lead to personal disagreements or just being annoyed with someone, and that can even lead to a block, but I personally refuse to block anyone. EVERYONE deserves a space to read, comment, and share their love for NOUR. This thread is, and will always remain, open and accessible to all.

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What is happening in this room?

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🔴 EPISODE 5 KEYWORD & GENERAL HASHTAGS

Official Keyword today: #NOURTheSeriesEP5

นู้ร์เดอะซีรีส์ #NourTheSeries #WeTVOriginal #WeTVth #TailaiEntertainment

📺 WHERE TO WATCH & RELEASE TIMES

NOUR is a WeTV Original and the UNCUT version is available on WeTV.

Every Wednesday

🇹🇭 Thailand

VIP: 7:30 PM ICT

Free: 8:00 PM ICT

🇪🇺 Central Europe

VIP: 2:30 PM CEST

Free: 3:00 PM CEST

🇺🇸 US Central

VIP: 7:30 AM CDT

Free: 8:00 AM CDT

10 episodes

❤️‍🔥 SPECIAL PRE-EPISODE LIVE TODAY

Boss-TongTong, Toey-Phoom and Little-Anton will be live together on WeTV Thailand's TikTok today at 7 PM Thailand / 2 PM CEST, only 30 minutes before Episode 5 starts for VIP viewers.

📜 OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS - WeTV

In a misty city haunted by unexplained fires, hot-blooded young police officer James crosses paths with the enigmatic Captain Ken. James soon discovers that his supernatural ability to "read" people doesn't work on Ken, who is secretly an immortal man hiding a centuries-old curse. At the same time, forensic pathologist Dr. Jirat and rescue worker Chita (who can see the dead) get pulled deeper into a world where the line between life and death starts to blur. Together, they become entangled in a dangerous, and thrilling investigation that will change their lives forever

⚠️ 🔞CONTENT WARNING & AGE RATING (18+)

Please know that NOUR is an 18+ series and contains themes involving death, trauma, violence and supernatural events.

👀 BEFORE EPISODE 5...

Episode 4 left me with quite a lot to think about, which was also noticeable in last week's comments, so there are a few things I want to come back to before today's episode.

Here is a video with the highlights of episode 4.

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👁️ WHAT DID JAMES SEE?

Until the end of Episode 4, James could see colours around other people, but never around Ken. And then suddenly he could. I thought that the colour around Ken looked very similar to the colour James previously saw around Tee and probably the person connected to his father's death.

So my guess, which was also the guess of other Redditors, is that James realised at that moment in the car that Ken is a Nour because he recognised it.

I ended up putting the scenes next to each other because I wanted to see whether I was imagining it.

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I am very curious whether Episode 5 is going to tell us why Ken suddenly had all the colors. My first guess was that it happened because of excitement, but later I started wondering if blood could be the trigger. Ken had just licked James' blood, while Tee had sucked blood from Mint, his victim.

📿 AND WHAT ABOUT THIS?

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After Episode 4, I still had no clue what Ken gave James as a present. It was green, but that was all I could see. The next day I saw a clear picture of the object on Boss' social media. It seemed like an old brooch. What does it mean? Is it a sort of talisman for protection or did it originally belong to someone Ken loved more than 200 years ago? But it has to mean something.

🎭 LOOKING BACK AT JAMES IN EPISODE 4

There was one scene last week that I kept thinking about afterwards. When James desperately says that he would rather give up being a police officer than be transferred back to Bangkok, someone in the Episode 4 comments asked a very reasonable question:

Is James really willing to throw away his entire career just to stay with Ken? It does sound and look extreme. I responded that I was looking from James' point of view, he has two things driving him at this point. One is finding the person responsible for his father's death. The other has become Ken. And both are in Nakhon Sawan.

If James is sent back to Bangkok to work on completely different cases, he doesn't only lose Ken. He also loses the investigation into the person who killed his father and other people, a Nour.

So when he says he would rather stop being a police officer, I didn't really read it as James suddenly deciding that his career means nothing because he is in love. For him, being sent back to Bangkok would mean losing both reasons why that career still matters to him.

And then I read an X post by Boss about that exact same scene!

This was apparently an important scene for him as an actor too. It was one of the scenes he had worked on early while learning how to understand James, and Boss explained that when he first read it, he struggled to understand James' emotions and how James could reach the point of being willing to give up what he had worked for.

So I found it quite interesting to read his explanation after we had already been discussing exactly that question in the Episode 4 comments and that it matched my thoughts about it.

Boss also thanked the director, his acting coach and TongTong for helping him, and said that TongTong had believed from the beginning that he could do it.

And apparently we haven't even reached half of what James is going to go through emotionally yet, if I read that post.

🎭 TONGTONG AS KEN

I have watched TongTong before in **The Wicked Game(*, but I honestly barely recognise that actor when I look at Ken. It isn't only the styling, it is his entire expression. Ken can look so tired (he lives over 200 years, so I can imagine, haha) and empty that even his eyes seem completely different.

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And then I saw the BTS from that intense car scene in Episode 4.

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The scene itself is emotionally heavy, and almost immediately afterwards Boss and especially TongTong are smiling and laughing again. It was funny to me.

TongTong has also talked about the contact lenses he had to wear for Ken. Apparently wearing contact lenses was new to him and something he initially had difficulty with. Which is interesting considering how much I keep looking at Ken's eyes. 😅

🎙️LET'S TALK BL: THE CAST TALKS ABOUT NOUR

I watched the Let's Talk BL interview with Boss, TongTong, Toey, Phoom, Little and Anton, and there were quite a few things in it that I found interesting.

Especially because it tells more about how these three pairings actually work together.

❤️ BOSS & TONGTONG

One interesting detail is that Boss was involved with the project before TongTong.

TongTong joined later and therefore had less workshop and preparation time.

Boss is completely new to acting, while TongTong has years of acting experience, and Boss talked about how much TongTong helped him during those first days.

On Boss' first shooting day, TongTong told him that he shouldn't try to perform well simply because he was paired with TongTong.

He wanted Boss to become an actor who could perform confidently regardless of who was standing opposite him, because in the future Boss might work with many different actors and actresses.

TongTong said that if Boss eventually becomes successful independently, he would be proud of him.

Boss said TongTong's sincerity and goodwill really stayed with him.

But what I especially liked is that the support apparently goes both ways.

TongTong said Boss is important to his own performance too, and that without Boss his performance wouldn't have been as good. He also said Boss reminds him of himself when he was starting from zero, and that he wants to help bring out Boss' talent. If Boss becomes more famous one day, TongTong said he would be proud of him like a younger brother.

TongTong has been helping Boss with acting, while when it comes to social media it sometimes seems to be the other way around. 😂

I have written more about Boss, their funny social-media role and Boss' unusual route from corporate life into acting in my completely revised Boss post, linked in the pinned comment.

💙 TOEY & PHOOM

Toey described Phoom as extremely hardworking and responsible. He talked about Phoom doing his homework for scenes and taking the workshops seriously.

Phoom already knew Toey before NOUR and described him as open, easy to work with and supportive.

This pairing didn't begin with NOUR. Toey and Phoom were already paired during the preparations for AKINA. More about that further below.

💜 LITTLE & ANTON

Anton apparently came from Germany for the audition and paid for the plane ticket himself. Before acting, he had worked as a barber, and Little said Anton has already cut his hair twice. I later found OOPS footage where Anton is cutting another artist's hair and clearly knows exactly what he is doing. 😂

Anton had something interesting to say about Little's acting too. He likes that Little doesn't necessarily perform a scene exactly the same way every time. He changes his delivery and adds small details between takes.

Anton described it almost like art and called Little very detail-oriented.

👀 APPARENTLY EPISODE 5 IS IMPORTANT...

I am very curious about today's episode. When the cast were asked which episodes viewers should pay special attention to, (Episode 5 was specifically mentioned*.

They said the story is reaching something close to a turning point, that things begin coming together for almost all of the couples, and that something unexpected happens.

So...

📈 NOUR KEEPS GROWING

Something I try to follow since the premiere is how NOUR is doing in Thailand, and the development has been interesting.

When the series premiered, it reached #39 on X Trending in Thailand. By Episode 3 it had climbed to #23.

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And Episode 4 reached:

#39 → #23 → #4 in Thailand

The Episode 4 keyword ****“Shades of the Soul”**(*separately reached #7 in Thailand, #33 in Brazil, #50 in Indonesia and #25 Worldwide.

And it wasn't only X.

After Episode 4, WeTV reported that NOUR had become the #1 Thai series on WeTV HOT Thailand. It also appeared in WeTV rankings in a number of other countries, including #2 in the UK, Canada, Laos, Chile, Argentina and Mexico, and #3 in the US, Colombia, Brazil and Vietnam.

These are rankings and trending positions, not viewing figures.

WeTV has not published viewer numbers. But going from #39 at the premiere to #4 in Thailand by Episode 4 is still a nice development to see. 😊

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💬 HALFWAY: TONGTONG ON NOUR'S JOURNEY

Today TongTong also wrote a touching post about NOUR reaching its halfway point.

He thanked everyone who watched, reviewed, shared and told other people about the series. What especially stood out to me was that he said they started "from zero, from a series that almost no one knew about", while now more and more people are discovering it every day.

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That fits with what I have been seeing. The series started relatively quietly, I even watched it by accident, but people seem to be recommending it to others and more people are finding it.

He also called this halfway point an important turning point in their journey, which is what the cast already told us that Episode 5 itself is a turning point in the story.

Boss was apparently also affected by TongTong's message. He replied that P'Tong had written it so touchingly that reading it made him tear up.

TongTong's answer was basically: "Come here, I'll comfort you."

And Boss: "So who is comforting whom?" 😂

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👥 THE SIX MAIN CAST MEMBERS

🤵 Tongtong (Kitsakorn Kanogtorn) as Ken Tongtong started his career as a singer and became famous in Thailand by competing in The Star Season 12, a major national TV talent show. That's also the reason for his IG handle name. You might have seen him as Jet from The Wicked Game, where he played the cruel half-brother of Pheem, or as Yang, the supportive brother in To Sir, With Love.

🤵 Boss (Patthakarn Thanasiriudom) as James NOUR is his official acting debut, as he has never acted in any series before. He speaks Thai, English, and Chinese fluently, and his hobbies include drawing and collecting fan photocards.

Before transitioning into acting full-time, Boss lived a serious corporate life. He graduated with a business degree from Thammasat University and worked as a Management Trainee for big tech and telecom companies including Lazada and True Corp.

His transition from corporate life into acting happened remarkably fast. Boss has said that when he learned he had been given the role of James, he made the decision to leave his corporate career behind and fully commit to acting.

For more information about this side of Boss Patthakarn, I wrote a post on this sub:
Boss Patthakarn (NOUR) - from corporate life to starring as the main lead 💼 ✨️. See the link in the pinned comments below.

I have updated that post regularly after it became known that he was hospitalized and underwent surgery for a pneumothorax. He continued promoting the show through his social media while recovering in the hospital.

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🤵 Toey (Pongsakorn Mettarikanon) as Dr. Jirat
Toey entered the entertainment industry through the TV talent search The Idol Project 2, which helped launch his acting career in mainstream Thai movies and dramas like Bang Rajan. He is not new to the BL world. He previously played the supporting role of Jade in the series Top Form.

🤵 Phoom (Chawonwat Thongyoo) as Chita Phoom recently participated as a trainee in Starlight Boys, an international Korean and Chinese survival show where contestants trained to join a global boyband. He already has experience in the BL genre, having played the supporting role of Chris in the series You Are My Arm.

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🤵 Anton Krueger as Panin Anton is 19 years old and NOUR is his first acting role. He is a Thai-German actor and artist signed under Tailai Entertainment, officially introduced as: "A face of pure sweetness and timeless grace, whose song flows as effortlessly as starlight".

🤵 Little (Siravit Imsee) as Rain Little has played supporting roles in several series. He is best known from Sangmin Dinneaw, where he played Sainam, a wealthy hotel and resort owner who aggressively pursued Dinneaw.

👥 OTHER CAST MEMBERS

I realised while making my previous On-Airs that I had spent a lot of time talking about the six male leads. Which is not very surprising in a BL post. 😂

But NOUR has more people in its cast, including women and supporting actors who are important to the story, and I don't want them to disappear simply because most of our attention naturally goes to the couples. So I have expanded the cast and social media information this week. Some of them have hardly followers, so, exposure can help them grow in their career.

Peanut (Peeranat Veeranipitkul) as Peter
Ohm (Nutthapoom Chaisurasintawee) as Tee
Kim (Kanoklak Vanichprapa) as Tangmay
Namnung (Namnung Van De Ven) as Prae
Lookgolf (Thanakorn Thipsuk) as Phong

📌 Their official social media accounts can also be found in the pinned comment below.

🎬 PRODUCTION HISTORY: FROM AKINA TO NOUR

People who read my previous On-Airs know that I have been trying to understand what exactly happened between AKINA and NOUR. And somehow this rabbit hole keeps getting deeper. 😂

Originally, I thought the timeline was relatively simple.

AKINA was announced by WeTV in November 2025 with Boom Raveewit as the male lead. Toey was also present. The teaser did not show much, it was more a stylistic video, an impression.

On February 5, Boom was still doing official action training for AKINA.

Boom preparing for AKINA

But after Boom Raveewit stepped down for health reasons, WeTV announced on March 25, 2026 that the lead role would be recast so production could continue. Only nine days later, on April 3, the opening and blessing ceremony for NOUR took place.

At first I thought this meant AKINA had simply been cancelled and completely rewritten into NOUR. After finding older Tailai material, however, it turns out to be more complicated than that. Some of the cast and pairings already existed during the AKINA period, and the actors themselves talked about working from an incomplete draft of the script.

So NOUR clearly grew out of the earlier AKINA project, but exactly how much of AKINA was rewritten or developed further into NOUR is something I am still researching.

u/FoundationSea2954 pointed me to episode 3, Late Night Talks from the OOPS! BROS! variety show on YouTube from Tailai Entertainment. I had already seen episode 4, but 3 and later 2 and 1 became very important for me to try to find a timeline.

Toey and Phoom, and Little and Anton, were already together during the AKINA period. The actors were talking about AKINA as a future project and Toey even talked about working with an incomplete draft.

And Boss was there too. That was already surprising. But I have now managed to date at least part of that footage much earlier than I originally thought.

Photos posted for Valentine's Day on February 14, which were picked up by Thai media and had people wondering if Toey was presenting his boyfriend 😉, show Toey and Phoom during the same island trip and on the exact same boat used for the activity seen in Episode 2 of OOPS! BROS!.

The clothes, accessories and boat match. And Boss arrives during that trip.

Valentine picture Toey & Phoom

Which means that Boss was already involved with this group by mid February at the latest, while Boom was still publicly preparing for AKINA.

That changes my original timeline. It does not prove to me that Boss was already replacing Boom. What it does show is that Boss was already involved with the AKINA group at that point. Boom and Boss now appear to overlap during AKINA's pre-production period, which raises questions for me about what the original project looked like.

I am now trying to collect all of this for a separate AKINA → NOUR production-history post, because otherwise at some point my On-Air is going to be endlessly long.

What we do know is that NOUR wrapped on May 18. That means the period between the April 3 ceremony and wrap was only 45 days.

Whatever happened behind the scenes, this was an incredibly tight production timeline.

📍NAKHON SAWAN

One thing I continue to appreciate about NOUR is the location. Nakhon Sawan and its atmosphere have become part of the series, with the fog, rivers, temples and supernatural elements surrounding Ken and James. It is about 240 km north of Bangkok, which is around a 3 to 4-hour drive. In Thailand, this is known as a very historic province. It is the exact place where four rivers come together to form the famous Chao Phraya River, and it was used as a main military base by ancient kings. The director chose this city on purpose to bring a traditional and mysterious feel, which matches the themes of this series. 

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🎵 OFFICIAL SOUNDTRACKS & MUSIC

The NOUR OST currently includes:

🎵 The Sweetest Line - Peanut

🎵 Unspoken Load - Little & Anton

🎵 Rainbow Unfulfilled - Toey & Phoom

The Spotify link is in the pinned comment.

⬅️ PREVIOUS NOUR ON-AIRS

Every On-Air has been a little different. I don't copy exactly the same background information every week.

Episodes 1 & 2 contain the introduction to the series.

Episode 3 contains my much more detailed timeline of Ken's curse and history.

Episode 4 contains more background about the production, Scarlet Light symbolism and other things I found while researching the series.

All previous threads are linked below in the pinned comment.

🎬 OFFICIAL EPISODE 5 PREVIEW

https://reddit.com/link/1wbiy7u/video/0cuhe2t24ioh1/player

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 1 month ago

Boss Patthakarn (NOUR)- From corporate life to starring as the main lead! 💼✨

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NOUR The Series, the new BL series from Thailand that aired 3 episodes last week, has made quite a impact!

For me, it was a surprise, I did not even know, last Tuesday, when I clicked on play, what quality, excitement and supernatural and dark theme it would bring. I was hooked instantly!

A lot of people know TongTong, the very talented and experienced actor who we know from series like To sir with Love and Wicked Game.

But let me introduce you to a new face, Boss Patthakarn. His role as James is his first role ever in a production as an actor, and his background is quite unique.

I learned that he had quit his normal daytime job for this opportunity and while googling about that fact, his X account showed me his own words about his new career path.

>#NourTheSeriesEP1EP2 is now airing!!! Allow me to officially introduce myself 😋 I'm Boss Pattakarn, a new actor. I've been working as a model since I was 18, for about 8 years in total. After graduating, I planned to pursue a career in the corporate world while continuing modeling on the side, but deep down, I wanted to go further in the entertainment industry and acting has always been something I wanted to try.

>By fate or whatever, one day I got the opportunity to play the role of 'James' in #NourTheSeries.

>The day I found out I got the role of James, I decided to quit my corporate career without hesitation, because I knew this was an opportunity I wanted to fully commit to..." 🤍

With his 1.87 meter height and good looks, it is not a surprise that he works as a model, but he does that mainly on the side in the weekends, mostly showing fashion on the runway and as a print model. But his main career was somewhere else.

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He has deleted his LinkedIn account since he became an actor, but some snippets showed that he has graduated from Thammasat University, which is a well known and elite, public, university for and their business and management studies are top tier. Studying there in that faculty meant that Boss was on track for a corporate management career.

After graduation, he was chose for the university extremely competitive True Taokae trainee program by the CP Group. He worked as a Management Trainee and already had professional experience working with major tech and e-commerce companies like Lazada and True Corp.

But, he always wanted to become an actor and last April, Tailai Entertainment signed him and promoted him on social media with the phrase "A sharp mind wrapped in effortless elegance."

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I guess that auditioning and getting the part in NOUR led him to be signed that month, because the shooting of the series started also in April and ended in May, a very tight schedule.

The series was originally announced in late 2025 as AKINA with a completely different main lead? Boom Raveewit. When he dropped out because of health problems in March 2026, the project completely changed, renamed to NOUR, and Boss was cast. This explains the very tight schedule of him auditioning, resigning, and shooting all within April and May!

When WeTV cast him for his role in NOUR, he knew this was his chance with a role he really wanted. Because he had to do a lot of physical preparation for this role, like learning to fight,.riding a motorcycle, handle a gun and also working out to get in shape for the NC scenes, he knew that he had to give up his daytime career to focus on the preparations. Within 48 hours, he resigned from his secure corporate job.

Tailai Entertainment targets not only the Thai but also the global and Chinese market. Boss is fluent in English and Chinese, and has an official Chinese name, Yang Senmu (杨森睦).

A fun fact. In the series, Boss as James, bought a smartphone for Ken (TongTong), who had no clue how to use it. But in real life, it is Boss who is the IT expert on set. Who teaches TongTong, who he calls "uncle", how to use Instagram and features on his smartphone.

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It is mirroring the storyline in the show 😂

I know that we have so many shows airing now, but if you have not watched NOUR, you are really missing out on a unique show that is not based on a novel or a manga, but an original story from the same people who also created Top Form.

The story is intriguing, the cinematography is top tier and also the second couple, played by Toey and Phoom, are phenomenal. I would really recommend watching this show.

The links for the on air posts for episode 1-2 and 3.

All the social media links from the cast, director etc.

I do hope that the reddit filter does not erase this post, I linked to other reddit posts and that can be tricky :)

There is a announcement of his agency regarding his health and hospitalization.

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 2 months ago

Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) - Episode 3 💋 🔥 #ScarletKiss

After yesterday's special premiere of the first two episodes, the regular Wednesday airing schedule begins today!🥳

Episode 3 is officially dropping!

I will not include any weblink to prevent this post from being removed. I will put them in the commentsection.

Official Keyword & Hashtag today:

Scarlet Kiss / #NOURTheSeriesEP3

General Hashtags: #นู้ร์เดอะซีรีส์ #NourTheSeries #WeTVOriginal #WeTVth #Tailai #TailaiEntertainment

📺 Where to Watch & International Release Times

The series is a WeTV Original. You can watch the UNCUT version on WeTV (both for VIP and Free users).

Access to the Uncut version requires a WeTV VIP subscription depending on your region.

Airing Schedule: Every Wednesday Thailand (ICT / GMT+7): 7:30 PM (VIP) / 8:00 PM (Free)

Total Episodes: 10

Information & Synopsis: MyDramaList - see comment section.

Official Synopsis (WeTV)

In a misty city haunted by unexplained fires, hot-blooded young police officer James crosses paths with the enigmatic Captain Ken. James soon discovers that his supernatural ability to "read" people doesn't work on Ken, who is secretly an immortal man hiding a centuries-old curse. At the same time, forensic pathologist Dr. Jirat and rescue worker Chita (who can see the dead) get pulled deeper into a world where the line between life and death starts to blur. Together, they become entangled in a dangerous, and thrilling investigation that will change their lives forever.

⚠️Content Warning & Age Rating (18+)

Please be aware that NOUR is an 18+ series. It contains graphic violence. Because the main character is immortal and wants to end his life, the first episode show frequent suicide attempts that do not succeed, along with intense violent scenes.

📸 Teasers

🎥 Official Teaser 1- see comment section.

🎥 Official Teaser 2- see comment section.

🎥 Official Teaser 3- see comment section.

🎞️ 🍿Official Show Playlist & Information- see comment section.

👥Main Cast & Official Social Media

Tongtong (Kitsakorn Kanogtorn) as Ken— IG and TikTok - see comment section.

Tongtong started his career as a singer and became famous in Thailand by competing in The Star Season 12, a major national TV talent show. That's also the reason of the name of his IG handle. You might have seen him as Jet from The Wicked Game, where he played the cruel half-brother of Pheem. And as Yang, the supportive brother in To Sir, with Love.

Boss (Patthakarn Thanasiriudom) as James — IG, X and TikTok- see comment section.

Boss was a contestant on The 52 Arena, a Thai survival show for T-Pop idols. He speaks Thai, English, and Chinese fluently, and his hobbies include drawing and collecting fan photocards. NOUR is his official acting debut, as he has never acted in any series before.

Toey (Pongsakorn Mettarikanon) as Dr. Jirat — IG and TikTok - see comment section.

Toey entered the entertainment industry by winning the main prize in the TV talent search The Idol Project 2. This victory launched his acting career in mainstream Thai movies and dramas like Bang Rajan. He is not new to the BL world, he played the supporting role of Jade in the series Top Form.

Phoom (Chawonwat Thongyoo) as Chita — IG and TikTok- see comment section.

Phoom recently participated as a trainee in Starlight Boys, an international Korean and Chinese survival show where contestants trained to join a global boyband. He already has experience in the BL genre, he played the supporting role of Chris in the series You Are My Arm.

🏠 Production Company: Tailai Entertainment — IG - see comment section.

🔍Official Character Backgrounds (From Press Interviews)

Ken (Tongtong Kitsakorn): An immortal man who has lived for 200–300 years across various eras, including a past as a warrior. Because his immortality was originally sustained through love, he chose to bury his feelings deep inside to escape the agony of loss—until he crosses paths with James.

James (Boss Patthakarn): A hot-blooded young police officer equipped with a supernatural ability to "read" people. He relies heavily on his sharp intuition to crack difficult cases and is on an intense personal mission to uncover a dark truth.

Dr. Jirat (Toey Pongsakorn): A dedicated forensic pathologist based in Nakhon Sawan. He serves as a positive thinker and a beacon of "light" that guides the other characters through the darkness of their investigation.

Chita (Phoom Chawonwat): Dr. Jirat's young assistant and a rescue worker who possesses the eerie ability to "see the dead". He frequently delivers bodies to Dr. Jirat for autopsies and finds his only sense of true happiness during their interactions.

📖 Production History: How "Akina" Became "NOUR"

The series NOUR started out as a totally different project.

At first, the production company announced it under the name Akina. It was supposed to be a sequel to the series Top Form, starring the actor Boom Raveewit as the main lead.

But right before filming started, Boom unfortunately had to stop acting due to personal health reasons. Instead of canceling the whole show, WeTV and the team decided to change everything. Because the first story was written specially for Boom, they wanted to make a fresh start.

They dropped the connection to the old series, rewrote the script into a standalone fantasy crime drama, and changed the title to NOUR.

So, unlike most Thai BL series, NOUR is a 100% completely original story and not adapted from an online Y-novel or manga!

It is written and directed by Boss Wasakorn Khumklaowiriya. He is a incredible director, known from Top Form what was his very first series. But now also made the script!

They also brought in Boss Patthakarn and Tongtong Kitsakorn as the new main leads to play James and Ken. It was a long journey behind the scenes, but that is how we got the show we are watching today.

⏳The Timeline of Ken's Failed Attempts to die

Year 1821 (Attempt number 4): Ken tries to end his life by burning himself in a fire.

Between 1821 and 1837, he made 65 attempts to die. This means he tried to die average every 3 months.

Year 1837 (Attempt number 69): He tries to die by jumping off a boat and drowning in the water.

Between 1837 and 1914, he made 32 attempts. This means he tried to die average every 2.5 years.

Year 1914 (Attempt number 101): During a war, he shoots himself directly in the forehead, but the wound heals instantly.

Between 1914 and 1987, he made 67 attempts. This means he tried to die average every 13 months.

Year 1987 (Attempt number 168): He starts a fight in a bar and gets stabbed by someone with a broken bottle.

Between 1987 and 1998, he made 10 attempts. This means he tried to die average every 13 months.

Year 1998 (Attempt number 178): During the Asian financial crisis, he jumps off a very high building.

Between 1998 and 2021, he made 57 attempts. This means he tried to die average every 5 months.

Year 2021 (Attempt number 235): He climbs inside a spinning washing machine in a laundromat, which is where James finds and "saves" him.

Looking at these numbers, there is a pattern in Ken's life. In the beginning, right after he discovers he cannot die, he panics and tries everything to end his life every three months.

Later, he calms down and takes breaks that last for more than two years, probably to study medicine and understand his body and how people die.

What happens in the world influences him. Wars or a big financial crash in 1998, Ken starts trying to end his life more frequently.

By the time he reaches our last 2 decades, he attempts every five months until James stops him in 2021.

♾️Conclusion is that Ken has not made a single attempt since 2021. Meeting James and the Nour cases has given him a new target, because his former target was to die. Maybe that target is still there, because he has learned that there is someone able to make him die and he wants to find that person.

On January eighth, 2026, Ken and James meet again at the hospital to investigate a strange murder where a woman burned completely from the inside out.

James works as an inspector and has a special gift where he can read people with his eyes, making him better than a polygraph test, according to James himself.

Ken touches James wrist and he gets a fast flashback of James saving him from the washing machine five years ago.

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 2 months ago

Thailand 🇹🇭 NOUR (นูร์) - Episodes 1 &amp; 2 (Double Premiere) 🔥

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Thanks for waiting!

Official Synopsis (WeTV)

In a misty city haunted by unexplained fires, hot-blooded young police officer James crosses paths with the enigmatic Captain Ken. James soon discovers that his supernatural ability to "read" people doesn't work on Ken, who is secretly an immortal man hiding a centuries-old curse. At the same time, forensic pathologist Dr. Jirat and rescue worker Chita (who can see the dead) get pulled deeper into a world where the line between life and death starts to blur. Together, they become entangled in a dangerous, and thrilling investigation that will change their lives forever.

⚠️Content Warning & Age Rating (18+)

Please be aware that NOUR is an 18+ series. It contains graphic violence and heavy themes. Because the main character is immortal and wants to end his life, the first episode show frequent suicide attempts that do not succeed, along with intense violent scenes.

🎬 Details

Airing Date: August 25, 2026 (Double Premiere)

Airing Schedule: Every Wednesday at 20:00 (ICT / Thailand Time)

Total Episodes: 10

Platform: WeTV (Uncut Version)

Information & Synopsis: MyDramaList - see comment section.

📸 Teasers

🎥 Official Teaser 1 - see comment section.

🎥 Official Teaser 2 - see comment section.

🎥 Official Teaser 3 - see comment section.

🎞️ 🍿Official Show Playlist & Information - see comment section.

Access to the Uncut version requires a WeTV VIP subscription depending on your region.

👥Main Cast & Official Social Media

Tongtong (Kitsakorn Kanogtorn) as Ken— IG - see comment section.

Tongtong started his career as a singer and became famous in Thailand by competing in The Star Season 12, a major national TV talent show. That's also the reason of the name of his IG handle. You might have seen him as Jet from The Wicked Game, where he played the cruel half-brother of Pheem. And as Yang, the supportive brother in To Sir, with Love.

Boss (Patthakarn Thanasiriudom) as James — IG - see comment section.

Boss was a contestant on The 52 Arena, a Thai survival show for T-Pop idols. He speaks Thai, English, and Chinese fluently, and his hobbies include drawing and collecting fan photocards. NOUR is his official acting debut, as he has never acted in any series before.

Toey (Pongsakorn Mettarikanon) as Dr. Jirat — IG - see comment section.

Toey entered the entertainment industry by winning the main prize in the TV talent search The Idol Project 2. This victory launched his acting career in mainstream Thai movies and dramas like Bang Rajan. He is not new to the BL world, he played the supporting role of Jade in the series Top Form.

Phoom (Chawonwat Thongyoo) as Chita — IG - see comment section.

Phoom recently participated as a trainee in Starlight Boys, an international Korean and Chinese survival show where contestants trained to join a global boyband. He already has experience in the BL genre, he played the supporting role of Chris in the series You Are My Arm

🏠 Production Company: Tailai Entertainment — IG - see comment section.

🔍Official Character Backgrounds (From Press Interviews)

Ken (Tongtong Kitsakorn): An immortal man who has lived for 200–300 years across various eras, including a past as a warrior. Because his immortality was originally sustained through love, he chose to bury his feelings deep inside to escape the agony of loss—until he crosses paths with James.

James (Boss Patthakarn): A hot-blooded young police officer equipped with a supernatural ability to "read" people. He relies heavily on his sharp intuition to crack difficult cases and is on an intense personal mission to uncover a dark truth.

Dr. Jirat (Toey Pongsakorn): A dedicated forensic pathologist based in Nakhon Sawan. He serves as a positive thinker and a beacon of "light" that guides the other characters through the darkness of their investigation.

Chita (Phoom Chawonwat): Dr. Jirat's young assistant and a rescue worker who possesses the eerie ability to "see the dead". He frequently delivers bodies to Dr. Jirat for autopsies and finds his only sense of true happiness during their interactions.

📖 Production History: How "Akina" Became "NOUR"

The series NOUR started out as a totally different project.

At first, the production company announced it under the name Akina. It was supposed to be a sequel to the series Top Form, starring the actor Boom Raveewit as the main lead.

But right before filming started, Boom unfortunately had to stop acting due to personal health reasons. Instead of canceling the whole show, WeTV and the team decided to change everything. Because the first story was written specially for Boom, they wanted to make a fresh start.

They dropped the connection to the old series, rewrote the script into a standalone fantasy crime drama, and changed the title to NOUR.

They also brought in Boss Patthakarn and Tongtong Kitsakorn as the new main leads to play James and Ken. It was a long journey behind the scenes, but that is how we got the show we are watching today.

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 2 months ago

ETERNAL SUMMER (2006) Review and context

I want to share some thoughts on Eternal Summer, the Taiwanese movie that was made 2 decades ago, in 2006.

I discovered this movie the same weekend after watching Your Name Engraved Herein on Netflix because I wanted the same kind of content.

After this, I searched started online, discovered the BL community, and the rest is history!

Recently, I saw two different posts about Eternal Summer on this subreddit. Reading the comments got me into a discussion about the characters, which made me realize that many, imo, often misunderstand the movie, especially Shane's behavior at the end.

That behavior is indeed confusing and leaves us thinking, what is this kind of ending? Jonathan finally tells Shane his secret and tells Shane that he loves him. Shane is shocked and terrified, which I find weird because he must have known, otherwise he didn’t use sex to try to keep Jonathan in his life. Shane cries and says "But you are really my best friend."

He forces Jonathan back into the friend zone. The movie does not show a clear ending. Shane is again too scared to say the truth and that leaves the three (Carrie, Shane's girlfriend) of them in limbo.

I read a comment with the interpretation that Shane was openly expressing his gay or bisexual feelings through sex and that he never rejected Jonathan, because of his actions. But I don't think that is the case at all and that Shane has psychological trauma and that they don't think about the heavy social pressure 20 years ago in Taiwan.

We see in this movie that Shane has ADHD. That made him hyperactive, different and lonely. Because of this and seen as a troublemaker, a schoolteacher stepped in and ordered Jonathan to be his friend, hoping Jonathan would be a calming influence. The tragedy is that Shane always knew this friendship was forced. Because of his ADHD and early isolation, Shane developed an extreme fear of abandonment. Jonathan became not only his only friend, but was the one that guided him and felt save in a world that did not understand him. If Jonathan was not there, Shane would be alone like in his childhood.

When Jonathan tries to pull away later from Shane because he was secretly in love with Shane and it got so bad that it destroyed him. Especially seeing Carrie in a relationship with Shane. Jonathan is trying to pull Shane away from him and Shane panics. His coping mechanism as someone with ADHD and attachment anxiety is to act impulsively. This is why the sex scene happens. It wasn't a peaceful, romantic confession of love. It was also not Shane just openly gay or bisexual. Having sex out of fear of abandonment is not a love confession. It was a desperate move. Shane used his body to tie Jonathan to him because he couldn't handle the panic of Jonathan leaving.

In a promotional interviews on YouTube, the actors Bryant Chang (Jonathan) and Joseph Chang (Shane) say how anxious and hesitant they were before filming that scene. They knew they had to get it right in one single take because they did not want to repeat it. And that emotion is also matching the story in the movie, because that was also confusion and panic.

But after the sex, Shane returns to his view that Jonathan' is his best friend. That is the way Shane is coping. He hides his true feelings behind that friendship label. He is too afraid too admit to himself and the outside world that he is bisexual and has romantic feelings towards a man.

Why is this? Because I also have seen mentioned that this movie doesn't show that there is hostility towards gay men, unlike in Your name engraved herein, that movie is set in 1987 at the very end of martial law and dictatorship with shown loud homophobia. So why would Shane be afraid to come out?

I saw this mechanism in more modern stories like Love in the Big City, where characters try to deny reality immediately after intimacy because of their internalized shame. Sex can be an impulsive act, but admitting who you really are takes courage what Shane did not have. He was not honest with Jonathan, Carrie, or himself.

I have seen comments about the novel Eternal Summer written by Wang Chi-yao. But, this novel is written AFTER the movie, because of the succes of this movie. In that novel version, the story ends with Jonathan dying in a car crash, and Shane finally admitting he loved him after it's too late. That means that in the novel, Shane could only admit after Jonathan died that he loved Jonathan on a romantic way. He never could do that before the accident.

In the movie, this is not the ending that we see as I have described earlier.

So, imo, to understand the characters, you have to look at the source material. The movie is based on the original screenplay and short story Light Years (光年) by Hsu Cheng-ping, which was published in INK Magazine in 2006. In this original text, nobody dies. Right after Shane says "you are my best friend" on the beach, he immediately starts acting playful and childish to force things back to the safe friend zone.

In LiveJournal Eternal Summer Archive, where this script is being talked about, Jonathan is left confused by those words, so Shane wraps his arm around Jonathan's neck to force a playful mood and drop the romantic tension. He uses that childish behavior as an shield because he wants Jonathan in his life, but he is too terrified of the to say he loves him romantically. He cannot face that commitment.

So in both versions, original screenplay and the movie, the idea that Shane was pursuing Jonathan makes no sense. He was trapped in deep denial and fear. Even the road trip to the beach wasn't Shane pursuing Jonathan, it was Carrie who dragged both of them on that trip to the beach because she was sick of the lies and wanted to force them to face the truth. Shane was just driving the car.

About comments that say Eternal Summer lacked proof that Shane was afraid to come out because there was no homophobia shown. Pressure is not shown like that, the shame is inside your own head. That’s why Shane can have sex with Jonathan but still can't say the words out loud. He is trapped in his own denial because of the society he grew up in.

Besides that, the Taiwanese audience at that time did not need proof of homophobia shown in the movie. It was 2006. They knew their own society. The proof of how homophobic society was is right there in the movie, that park scene. Straight people could pick each other up openly in clubs, bars, schools, etc. The fact that gay men had to hide in the dark in a park just to find connection or sex shows how dangerous it was to be open back then. It was underground. This also reminds me of another famous Taiwanese movie, Ang Lee's The Wedding Banquet (1993). There is no violence in that movie either, but the pressure to hide your identity because of traditional family duty and expectations is suffocating.

Some people argue that Asian cinema back then was much more "enlightened" or progressive about LGBTQ+ themes than Western cinema, but that is a misunderstanding imo. In the 90s and 2000s, classic Asian queer movies almost always ended in tragedy, heartbreak, or forced heterosexual marriages. As analyzed in a retrospective on the Taiwanese site BIOS Monthly, these early works focused on the reality of being an outsider and the difficulty of escaping social expectations. Filmmakers wrote sad endings because that was the reality in their country. Happy endings became a normal thing much later with recent Thai BL series as the start.

Taiwan went through what sociologists call "compressed modernity." This means society changed and modernized so very fast, compared to other countries. The generation from Eternal Summer grew up with parents who lived 100% under a conservative military dictatorship. In Taiwanese culture, the main source of homophobia wasn't religion, since Buddhism and Taoism don't have strict moral laws against homosexuality. The biggest taboo was and can still be traditional family duty and values. Marrying the opposite sex to continue the family line and have children, instead of a same-sex partner.

It might seem confusing because Taiwan became the first in Asia to legalize same-sex marriage in 2019. But that change didn't happen because the inhabitants suddenly became progressive. In fact, Taiwanese voted against same-sex marriage in a referendum. The law was forced through by the Constitutional Court because judges ruled that the ban was unconstitutional. Taiwan also used its progressive LGBTQ+ rights as a smart political statement. They needed to look modern to the world and show that Taiwan is a free democracy, totally different from their neighbor China, with its communist dictatorship and censorship.

So while the law changed fast, the social pressure and trauma remain for people from Shane’s generation, who are now in their forties. Taiwanese people in their 40s still struggle with internalized homophobia. The fear of being rejected by their parents and grandparents is still deep. The law changed very fast and that is reflected by the younger generation in Taiwan.

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 3 months ago
▲ 343 r/boyslove

I love "To My Shore" so much! 😍

I finished watching To My Shore for the second time and I am absolutely obsessed.

The chemistry between the main actors is just incredible and every episode felt so perfect.

This is easily one of the best BL series ever made! ❤️

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 4 months ago
▲ 45 r/BLJapan

"The Boy and I Who Will Break Up in 100 Days" is to good to sleep on.

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I had to write this post after I have watched episode 3 today.

I know we are currently drowning in a wave of BL series, and it can be exhausting, but do yourself a favor and start watching The Boy and I Who Will Break Up in 100 Days

We are only 3 episodes in, but it is one of the most unique, mature, and brilliant BLs airing at this moment.

The show is based on a book by Naoto Asahara. He was an openly gay Japanese author (he also wrote What She Likes) who understood the queer reality in Japan and has used his own struggles into his writing. Sadly, he passed away in 2023.

The screenwriter for the show is Miura Naoyuki, also known from Fujoshi, Ukkari Gei ni Kokuru, which I recommend watching. He adapted the book into this documentary style. And that was a very good choice, because it makes the show so clever.

Instead of just telling a standard story, the screenwriter uses this way to show the contrast in different perspectives.

The Director (Shiho): She represents the outside world. She is obsessed with filming a politically correct, idealized gay relationship that she completely misses what is happening in front of her.

The Cameraman (Yamada): Through his lens, he actually sees what is really going on.

I found out that the show actually changed a few things from the original book. In the book, the story is told from the perspective of Yuma and Itsuki, the main couple. But for the show, the screenwriter added the documentary crew (Shiho and Yamada) as the eyes of the story.

The script writer is clever with every line of dialogue and every parallel scene matters. It uses nervous defense mechanisms, silly jokes, and interviews with side characters to give hints, facial expressions and late-blooming realizations. Even the side stories feel real. For example, how the show portrays the legal status of same-sex relationships in Japan, microaggressions, and even the struggles of a young mother at home.

This is not a standard BL. It is about social pressure and expectations.

The developments, conversations etc. in this show will make you pause, think, laugh, be sad or realize that things aren't what they seemed at first glance and that you can piece clues together.

Synopsis on MyDramaList, but I would advice to read that synopsis AFTER episode 1.

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 4 months ago

"The Boy and I Who Will Break Up in 100 Days" is to good to sleep on.

https://preview.redd.it/rehzah19bg6h1.jpg?width=1027&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f9c4912e62315ddcf635952b4336552a6da32dc

I had to write this post after I have watched episode 3 today.
I know we are currently drowning in a wave of BL series, and it can be exhausting, but do yourself a favor and start watching The Boy and I Who Will Break Up in 100 Days

We are only 3 episodes in, but it is one of the most unique, mature, and brilliant BLs airing at this moment.

The show is based on a book by Naoto Asahara. He was an openly gay Japanese author (he also wrote What She Likes) who understood the queer reality in Japan and has used his own struggles into his writing. Sadly, he passed away in 2023.

The screenwriter for the show is Miura Naoyuki. Also known from Fujoshi, Ukkari Gei ni Kokuru, which I recommend watching. He adapted the book into this documentary style. And that was a very good choice, because it makes the show so clever.

Instead of just telling a standard story, the screenwriter uses this way to show the contrast in different perspectives.

The Director (Shiho): She represents the outside world. She is obsessed with filming a politically correct, idealized gay relationship that she completely misses what is happening in front of her.

The Cameraman (Yamada): Through his lens, he actually sees what is really going on.

I found out that the show actually changed a few things from the original book. In the book, the story is told from the perspective of Yuma and Itsuki, the main couple. But for the show, the screenwriter added the documentary crew (Shiho and Yamada) as the eyes of the story.

So instead of just reading their thoughts, we are watching Yuma and Itsuki through Yamada's camera lens.This is so smart and more exciting to watch!

Also, the script writer is clever with every line of dialogue and every parallel scene matters. It uses nervous defense mechanisms, silly jokes, and interviews with side characters to give hints, facial expressions and late-blooming realizations. Even the side stories feel real. For example, how the show portrays the legal status of same-sex relationships in Japan, microaggressions, and even the struggles of a young mother at home.

This is not a standard BL. It is about social pressure and expectations.

The developments, conversations etc. in this show will make you pause, think, laugh, be sad or realize that things aren't what they seemed at first glance and that you can piece clues together.

Synopsis on MyDramaList, but I would advice to read that synopsis AFTER episode 1.

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 4 months ago
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Dual Stars (2026) Review

I just binged all 6 episodes of Dual Stars after it was suddenly dropped online without any prior promo, on IQIYI and YouTube.

I thought to write a short review about this, because it’s probably going to get buried under the current wave of uncensored BLs, and that would be a shame.

SPOILERS!

Although it is officially produced under a Taiwanese label (Lumina Original) to bypass censorship, this is obviously filmed in Mainland China. I could tell that from the scenery, the dubbing, the cinematography, and the fact that the kiss scenes are strategically blocked and almost never mouth-to-mouth.

Myself, being a fan of kiss scenes and also (intense) NC scenes, which I admit openly 😊, did not mind that. But if you would think this is Taiwanese BL with intense NC scenes, it's not. But don't let that be a obstacle.

Ray Chen and Alan Chen did an very good job. Even without physical romance, their chemistry is easy to see. They show love, tension, and affection with their eyes and body language. The acting is great. They don't need explicit scenes to make you believe that.

What really surprised me about Dual Stars is how open it is. When drunk, one actor tells his co-star he is gay, and later learn the other actor says he likes men. I was also surprised how this production did not shy away from heavy criticism about their own filming industry, how image is everything and the toxic side of Chinese idol culture.

Obsessive and agressive fans and how they behave themselves to the actors in order for views and money and ruin careers. The industry looks terrifying. Walking on eggshells, toxic internet, censorship, the companies managing actors. I feel sorry for Chinese actors trying to make it in that industry. Imo, it was quite a honest look.

u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 5 months ago
▲ 116 r/ChineseBL

Please support the Chinese BL "Journey With You" (与君同). The actors were literally crying on a live stream. 😭

https://reddit.com/link/1ticzvi/video/oj0ftv0v692h1/player

I am making this post to hopefully convince you to check out this show.

Earlier this morning, I saw a subbed video fragment on Instagram from a live stream where the actors of Journey With You, Wang Jinghan and Tang Bide, were literally crying on the screen. You can watch the clip on Instagram here or on X here.

It is just so heartbreaking to see how stressed they are about the low views. And Wang Jinghan said that he is sad, thinking that if someone else had played the role instead of him back then, maybe it would have been better. 😭

I can say after 3 episodes that Wang Jinghan is absolutely doing a wonderful job and that he is not to blame, because he is not the issue.

Right now, there is a massive surge of other Chinese BL dramas that are coming out via the international loophole, it is just a lot. And for viewers, also me, it is hard to keep up with all of that.

Smaller indie shows like Journey With You are getting completely snowed under. It’s not just that people prefer modern dramas over historical ones right now, because high-budget historical shows like Pursuit of Jade are actually super popular. I think that the main reason, correct me if I am wrong, is that with this surge of shows, most attention is towards the bigger budget productions.

For example, Double Helix released at the exact same time this and it got a lot of attention and has a Singaporean co-production budget, it is based on a famous web novel and it stars Ayden Sng, so it already had a big fanbase before it even started. Then you also have modern shows like The Gaze airing right now, which is maybe easier to follow.

I actually discussed The following video was posted by u/Federal-Ad5944. A Jinghan weibo update "thank you for choosing me" 🥹 ♥️ (Tang Bide's reply in the comments) with u/Federal-Ad5944 on this sub, who summed up the current situation perfectly.

>To me, its the best CBL on right now. I really wish the show was getting more love, but in this saturated market its very hard. It's not even isolated to reddit, it's not really picking up on socials in general, even Chinese ones. It's getting lost in the shuffle everywhere and it's really hard.

Even though these actors are actively promoting on Weibo and the show is technically marked as an "overseas drama" to bypass domestic bans, they still rely on international platforms like GagaOOLala to get traction. If you look at their Instagram accounts, their follower counts are still low, so they really aren't getting the international push they need.

If the views don't hit the targets, it directly hurts their future career and they can get a hard time to be casted again. They put their hearts into this, and seeing them cry because their show is not picking up by now is sad.

Until now, the show is honestly so good. And it is also a bit spicy we are just 3 episodes in and we have already seen the villain prince in two NC scenes. You can see this edit on Instagram or on Reddit to see what I mean with the spice.

I know that the first episode is a bit complicated to follow, I had to rewind it some times. There are intrigues, court politics, and palace secrets, so it may be a bit difficult to see who is who and what is happening in the beginning.

But let me explain the context so you don't drop it, basically the Fifth Prince (Yin Qi) gets betrayed and killed in a coup by his own family. But then he wakes up three years earlier in the past. So it is a rebirth or time travel story. He tries to change his death and what happened in the future. In that first timeline where Yun Qi gets killed together with his closest childhood friend Pei Yanzhi, Yun Qi at that moment thought that Pei Yanzhi had betrayed him. Which is not true, it was a brother of Yun Qi, I call him the villain prince (Yin Zhou) who framed Pei Yanzhi with the help of a false letter to make it look like Pei Yanzhi helped his own country to stage a coup.

Pei Yanzhi grew up together with Yin Qi, but he is a prince who was sent by a rival country to the imperial court as a political hostage. This was done as collateral to guarantee peace between the two empires. A hostage prince like him grew up inside the palace, but constantly spied on because is seen as a potential enemy or spy. In reality, Pei Yanzhi cares so deeply for Yin Qi and is trying to do his best to protect him, in secret, with his own secret political networks because of his hostage situation.

It seems that the video gained some attention on X. And yes, I made this post because of the Instagram post I saw. But this show really deserves to be watched. It is honestly very good!

The following video was posted by u/Federal-Ad5944. A Jinghan weibo update "thank you for choosing me" 🥹 ♥️ (Tang Bide's reply in the comments), probably as a reaction to the livestream.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseBL/s/Ib1uOMpOZR

Please go watch it on GagaOOLala, it releases every Friday. You can also check out the On-Air DiscussionThread to see what others are saying about the latest episodes and all relevant links and information.

The actors and the production studio have not much followers on Instagram. And their budget for promotion is very limited.

You can follow them for support.

Page: Journey With You on MDLOfficial Studio: https://www.instagram.com/theonestudio001

Jinghan (Pei Yanzhi): www.instagram.com/wangjinghan5454

Bide (Yin Qi/Fifth Prince): https://www.instagram.com/tangbb666

Tongzhou (Yin Zhou / Villain Prince): https://www.instagram.com/duantongzhou

Youcheng (Wei Ziming): https://www.instagram.com/louischengo

MyDramaList

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 5 months ago
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Please support the Chinese BL "Journey With You" (与君同). The actors were literally crying on a live stream. 😭

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYiXxRyocmO/?igsh=YzEwdnZzZ3l4M3Vj

I am making this post to hopefully convince you to check out this show.

Earlier this morning, I saw a subbed video fragment on Instagram from a live stream where the actors of Journey With You, Wang Jinghan and Tang Bide, were literally crying on the screen. You can watch the clip on Instagram here or on X here. It is just so heartbreaking to see how stressed they are about the low views. And Wang Jinghan said Jinghan said that he is sad, thinking that if someone else had played the role instead of him back then, maybe it would have been better. 😭

I can say after 3 episodes that Wang Jinghan is absolutely doing a wonderful job and that he is not to blame, because he is not the issue.

Right now, there is a massive surge of other Chinese BL dramas that are coming out via the international loophole, it is just a lot. And for viewers, also me, it is hard to keep up with all of that.

Smaller indie shows like Journey With You are getting completely snowed under. It’s not just that people prefer modern dramas over historical ones right now, because high-budget historical shows like Pursuit of Jade are actually super popular. I think that the main reason, correct me if I am wrong, is that with this surge of shows, most attention is towards the bigger budget productions.

For example, Double Helix released at the exact same time this and it got a lot of attention and has a Singaporean co-production budget, it is based on a famous web novel and it stars Ayden Sng, so it already had a big fanbase before it even started. Then you also have modern shows like The Gaze airing right now, which is maybe easier to follow.

I actually discussed this with u/Federal-Ad5944 on the r/ChineseBL sub, who summed up the current situation perfectly.

>To me, its the best CBL on right now. I really wish the show was getting more love, but in this saturated market its very hard. It's not even isolated to reddit, it's not really picking up on socials in general, even Chinese ones. It's getting lost in the shuffle everywhere and it's really hard.

Even though these actors are actively promoting on Weibo and the show is technically marked as an "overseas drama" to bypass domestic bans, they still rely on international platforms like GagaOOLala to get traction. If you look at their Instagram accounts, their follower counts are still low, so they really aren't getting the international push they need.

If the views don't hit the targets, it directly hurts their future career and they can get a hard time to be casted again. They put their hearts into this, and seeing them cry because their show is not picking up by now is sad.

Until now, the show is honestly so good. And it is also a bit spicy we are just 3 episodes in and we have already seen the villain prince in two NC scenes. You can see this edit on Instagram or on Reddit to see what I mean with the spice.

I know that the first episode is a bit complicated to follow, I had to rewind it some times. There are intrigues, court politics, and palace secrets, so it may be a bit difficult to see who is who and what is happening in the beginning.

But let me explain the context so you don't drop it, basically the Fifth Prince (Yin Qi) gets betrayed and killed in a coup by his own family. But then he wakes up three years earlier in the past. So it is a rebirth or time travel story. He tries to change his death and what happened in the future. In that first timeline where Yun Qi gets killed together with his closest childhood friend Pei Yanzhi, Yun Qi at that moment he thought that Pei Yanzhi had betrayed him. Which is not true, it was a brother of Yun Qi, I call him the villain prince (Yin Zhou) who framed Pei Yanzhi with the help of a false letter to make it look like Pei Yanzhi helped his own country to stage a coup.

Pei Yanzhi grew up together with Yin Qi, but he is a prince who was sent by a rival country to the imperial court as a political hostage. This was done as collateral to guarantee peace between the two empires. A hostage prince like him grew up inside the palace, but constantly spied on because is seen as a potential enemy or spy. In reality, Pei Yanzhi cares so deeply for Yin Qi and is trying to do his best to protect him, in secret, with his own secret political networks because of his hostage situation.

It seems that the video gained some attention and on X.

And yes, I made this post because of the Instagram post I saw. But this show really deserves to be watched. It is honestly very good!

The following video was posted by u/Federal-Ad5944. A Jinghan weibo update "thank you for choosing me" 🥹 ♥️ (Tang Bide's reply in the comments). Probably as a reaction to the live stream.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseBL/s/Ib1uOMpOZR

Please go watch it on GagaOOLala, it releases every Friday. You can also check out the On-Air Discussion Thread to see what others are saying about the latest episodes and all relevant links and information.

The actors and the production studio have not much followers on Instagram. And their budget for promotion is very limited.

You can follow them for support.

Page: Journey With You on MDLOfficial Studio: https://www.instagram.com/theonestudio001

Jinghan (Pei Yanzhi): https://www.instagram.com/wangjinghan5454/

Bide (Yin Qi/Fifth Prince): https://www.instagram.com/tangbb666/

Tongzhou (Yin Zhou / Villain Prince): https://www.instagram.com/duantongzhou/

Youcheng (Wei Ziming): https://www.instagram.com/louischengo/

MyDramaList

https://preview.redd.it/xhsaeeau492h1.png?width=1294&format=png&auto=webp&s=c076abc96c7fef8019b763e5cd75c705f54d54cc

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 5 months ago

My problem with Soul Mate was never the “we just wanted a kiss”

Normally I never make review posts. I just leave comments under posts and move on, because my thinking is that people can have their own thoughts about a show or movie and that is OK.

But after seeing a second post today reducing criticism of Soul Mate to:

“people are angry because there was no kiss/NC scene”

while also throwing around comments about “media literacy” and:
“It really shows what kind of BL fan you really are when you completely mislabel something so obviously queer just because there isn't any kiss scene/NC scene” or “Trying to explain that perspective to someone who just won't understand it seems pointless.” or “It’s a shame others won’t understand it.”

I got frustrated enough to write my own post instead of another comment. Here is a example. Because that is NOT what a lot of people, including me, were saying at all.

THAT is what triggered me into writing this post. That attitude toward anyone who didn’t consider it a masterpiece.Because not every criticism of Soul Mate is about “they didn’t kiss enough.” It is unfair and condescending.

Yes, I enjoy romance in BL. I enjoy chemistry, kisses and enjoy many NC scenes.
Why should BL fans be looked down on for enjoying romance and intimacy in a romance genre? BL is about romance, longing, sexuality, comfort, physical affection, fantasy, softness, tragedy, emotional intimacy, all kinds of things. There is nothing wrong with enjoying that.

And at the same time, I also enjoy stories with very little physical intimacy.
What Did You Eat Yesterday? barely has any physical intimacy at all, but the relationship between those men is clear. Same with Kieta Hatsukoi. Those stories still feel real, the relationships also and the characters communicate like people do.

My criticism of Soul Mate was NEVER “They didn’t kiss, therefore it’s bad.”

I understood Johan and Ryu’s connection.The people around them understood it too.Sua understood it. Sumiko and Seiichi understood it.
Ryu’s parents clearly saw Johan as more than a friend, more like a son in law. I even thought for a moment that at least Ryu's mother would talk more openly to Ryu like, it's ok to have a boyfriend.

The church scene in the 1st episode and Johan filming his monologue in the last episode made it clear that Johan struggled with his sexuality and self-acceptance amd he recognized himself that he was the same as that German boy. And that he understood that Ryu accepted himself in the church as gay. (Still, I find it odd that the script, allthough Ryu felt sorry and awfull about Arata, he tried to get burned in the church, but that is my opinion).

My criticism is about the total lack of reality in how this show handles human relationships and daily life. But also wanting me to believe these two share the deepest soulmate connection imaginable.

Three adults and a baby living together for years in an cramped Tokyo apartment separated mostly by curtains. And somehow there is barely any friction, real arguments, no frustration about privacy, no resentment, no awkwardness, no exhaustion from sleepless nights, no stress over responsibilities, cooking, constantly living on top of each other? No emotional tension at all?

The only “stress” we really see is Kanau occasionally having a fever and needed to be picked up from day care. Everything else feels so smooth. Some people call this a realistic story of human connection? Because that living situation honestly feels like fantasy and no reality.

Then there is Sumiko, she is one of the biggest examples for me of the show. She loses her husband. Raises a child
Lives together with Johan and Ryu for months and after that, with only Ryu.
Is going to marry Ryu for practical/legal reasons and for the child.

What about Ryu in all those years? Being with Sumiko and Kanau is fulfilling enough and he doesn't need a physical or romantic relationship? What is the difference than between Sumiko and Johan because it is practically the same way that they live together.

But what about HER emotional life, romantic future, sexuality and physical needs and grief? Has she suddenly become completely asexual because she had a child?

The show does not explore any of it and is so vague sometimes that the characters stop feeling like real people to me.

And another thing that I did not inderstand. If Johan and Ryu are in some kind of non-physical, deeply repressed or even asexual romantic space, then why is that almost never addressed?

Why are there barely any conversations about intimacy, identity, fear, boundaries or what their relationship even means to each other?
“What are we?”
“What happens if one of us meets someone else?”
“What kind of future do we want?”
“Are we afraid?” I have not seen it. What I saw was when they first started to live together in Ryu's very cramped space was, "I have cooked", "wash your hands" and that both were busy with work and study. And there was no irritation at moments at all.

And AGAIN, that criticism does NOT mean I needed kissing. But even if it is a loving but also asexual relationships, that needs communication, emotional honesty, insecurity, longing, vulnerability, fear and confusion.

If you have seen the director’s previous work More than Words, then you know he IS capable of portraying the physical and emotional realities of being gay, afraid to admitting to be gay and asexuality.

So that is exactly why Soul Mate frustrates me more.

Because here almost everything gets hidden behind silence and implication and often to subtle. I mean, where is the longing if Ryu accepted himself and Johan also realized that he is gay? Because they themselves clearly know they are gay.
Johan literally identifies with the young German gay boy.

So if these two men have this unique soulmate bond, no romantic or physical interest in anyone else for years, have this deep non-physical connection together, then why does Soul Mate show that while they were living together and what that means?

Why not show that maybe they are homoromantic asexual men or deeply repressed or afraid? The show keeps implying things while not show us.

Another big issue for me was Johan leaving. The show wants us to believe Johan and Ryu have this soulmate bond. Then HOW does Ryu go from desperately searching for Johan in Korea earlier in life… to basically accepting: “I guess he left me for someone else.” For seven years. (If I get that right, but it was a long time).

The same man who once went looking for Johan across another country. But now he just accepts it after Johan said he is leaving and said his goodbye in 2 minutes? That made no psychological sense to me. You can be angry because Johan said he found someone he wanted to protect and cherish (that person was in fact Ryu). But said in a way to alienate Ryu from him. But Ryu also said that Johan was acting strange.

If you are supposedly THAT deeply connected to someone, you would not just shrug and move on with: “Well, I guess he chose someone else.”

You would look for answers, struggle, have emotional difficulties surrounding that abandonment. Sumiko and Ryu had Sua's contacts so they could call or text.

And Sumiko knowing Johan was seriously ill for an entire year while saying nothing to Ryu made it even harder for me to emotionally believe these characters.

I understand the show wanted tragedy and Johan leaving was meant to feel heartbreaking and self-sacrificial. For me it crossed into cruelty. Because Johan allowed Ryu to believe he abandoned him for another person while he was slowly dying.

(A sidenote, Japanese doctor urging Johan to get treatment in Korea while Johan lived in Japan mainly because of the costs? Also Korea is expensibe. Luckily there was the free German healthcare.)

The script bends the psychology of these characters to force a tragic ending it. You are not smarter just because the vague storytelling worked for you.

I also got annoyed at Ryu’s speech in the car at the end. I watched the show with Dutch subtitles, so maybe the translation affected it , but some of the dialogue sounded more deep than actually making sense to me.

“If you feel lonely, that is a blessing because it means there is someone in your life that you miss.” And I was sitting there thinking… huh? Because loneliness is also often caused by NOT having people in your life. Not everyone who feels lonely is lucky because they miss that person.

And the line that sounded the most fake deep to me was when Ryu says that someone is never alone no matter where or when they are.

So, this is my conclusion why I don’t consider this a masterpiece. It was a beautiful story.
There were scenes that moved me deeply and cried. I liked the acting. I liked the atmosphere.

But I do not think the writing handles emotional and physical realism and communication in relationships. And this is why that “You just wanted a kiss” arguments frustrate me.

Because people ARE discussing the writing and realism, character psychology, emotional intimacy and gay relationship.Someone is not smarter just because the vague storytelling worked for you.

And other viewers are not shallow BL fans because they wanted more communication, more believable psychology, or more realistic emotional writing.

If someone looks down on BL fans for liking romance, kisses or intimacy, then I wonder why they are even in BL spaces acting morally superior.

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u/Little-Tomatillo-745 — 5 months ago