u/Maleficent_Dinner_92

Venom in Spider-Man: Midnight - I wanna speculate!

Okay listen. MJ is fluffy and silly and now Venom symbiote is a good guy. Sure yeah okay hooray BUT. Spider-Man Midnight is coming DOWN. THE. PIKE. untouchable, absolute universe-vibes/energy. I WANNA SEE VENOM IN IT. I want Venom, I want Eddie. I want CLETUS back. I want carnage. I want Flash. I want Liz. Main continuity's got their stuff - thrilling. Put it on the racks and sell it to the kids. Big thumbs up 10/10.

MIDNIGHT is for the grown ups man. The ones with disposable income and if they are doing horror spider-man they gotta include the symbiotes if it does well. How do you think they'll do it? it's animal/human hybrids so maybe octopi? Or like...man. rhinos?

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u/Maleficent_Dinner_92 — 3 days ago

Potential new Eddie symbiote is Bedlam?

I've talked about this on my socials and I don't have exact screenshots- but what if Eddie's "new" symbiote is Bedlam? And he'll just be Bedlam now and Bedlam will be the new enemy of Venomj?

TLDR: there's a couple of solid hints about Eddie being Bedlam, it makes sense from a vibes and synergy POV. I dont think they wanted to do it, its kind of cool for female symbiote fans to see themselves.

I really wanna be mean but I'll save it for the end.

The 2%:

- I recall that Ewing said Bedlam had been "locked up and was still out there" and going to be a "problem for Eddie" during one of the Death Spiral Venom: Unleashed columns.

- Bedlam is the only symbiote that Eddie's actively bonded to other than Venom recently and if I remember how he was created he *was* Eddie and now he's his own KiB entity.

- he's also the only new symbiote besides Knull with his own action figure.​

- this actually puts the eventuality into perspective. His whole thing about Eddie always being Venom is Ewing going "hey guys. I get it. He always will be venom in some capacity or another." So I'll bet post QiB there'll be 2 venoms. The Eventuality isnt caring but it does introduce the KiB host people bonded with the most.

- which is pretty nice when you think about it. Maybe not a forever send-off but the dude clearly cares/cared.

The Vibes:

- they know Eddie is popular but given that David Buckley *just left* Marvel Comics and they clearly want more movie and comics synergy because money - they know Venom is popular cause us dumb assess went to see the movie and they think he's more popular as a dumb anti-hero jock.

- but Ewing recognizes complexity and since Venom has now become a story about female rage but since they can't get rid of Eddie he's the opposite.

- instead of mastering killer instincts he's going to be mastering his own anger. Again. So while MJ is facing her own rage and they have a potential way to put Venom in the MCU they can also put Eddie...but as Bedlam not as Carnage.

- as for carnage it seems like he's gonna be Venom 2.0 and maybe rebond with norman since healing power of love. Or a new thing. So we'll hsve Carnage, Bedlam, and Venomj.

1000 isnt just a family reveal story. Its a new "sinister six" for new fans.

- Kelly isnt doing a new family member story. Crane is gonna be evil and they think they need to revamp old characters for new ones. Crane is gonna be evil, Brian is gonna be the new Lizard/Sandman/IDK - maybe torment will come back as Shocker, and either MJ or Eddie will be the new "venom" with a new "oh shit: peter can't escape it he failed Eddie/MJ and now they are evil again" twist.

- this is because no one directly asks for "old" characters like Liz or Scream or anybody but this creates a potential backstory that can be adapted to the MCU.

- the reason Eddie and Venom are "normal" ish in Rivals because they've proven so popular Marvel isnt going to fuck with it/maybe Sony can't touch it?

- Sony might try to make Venom more lethal protector-y to their spider-people. Venom might not appear as Zendaya in the MCU but it won't be Eddie.

- Gomez wasn't kidding when he said Slow burn for PeterMJ. Eddie and the Symbiote idk.

PLUSES. (The positives)

- I really like the idea and symmetry of using symbiotes to talk about rage. Marvel has never done it well and having Eddie "master"his anger and himself is actually pretty cool.

- I like the MJ design with the red hair. The teeth need to be improved upon but not only is it gorgeous its also really unique.

- given how the symbiote is portrayed and its been awhile since a female host and no one has taken the time to build someone like Liz up, or Widow, its recognizable and cool.

- even if I disagree with how its done, if you're dead set on Peter and MJ having a "kid" Dylan is a good idea. Eddie did turn out to kind of be a shit dad. It would help Peter and Mj to get together again by co-operating over him.

- I don't like symbrock as much as I did and I see the rational of putting Eddie into a new symbiote both synergy wise and otherwise. Also if you think about it that's why Jordan's on the book. You guys professor X'd him. Which could be cool if you didnt make him disappear completely. But. He might come back.​

- its cool to master your demons and stuff and fall in love with them but you could do the same story with MJ. Symbrock got really big because of the movies. Which...weren't even that romantic?

- I am a soule Stan and I think the poor man walked into a fire ant trap. I hope if they do make Eddie Bedlam people are nice to the guy. He had nothing to do with Queseda or Wells. (Please just don't fall victim to the "my childhood! I wanna write spider-man!!" Curse man. You're so much better than that.) Unleashed will be peak.

- honestly splitting up an adult "venom" and kid venom would be good because I do see a lot of kids with venom stuff. And venom did beat felicia. And did a bunch of other stuff. And I get the impulse to be more kid friendly. It *is* Disney and even removing rhe guy with mental health issues makes sense.

- I do think they care about Eddie. Which is why he's getting the mini. I think we all need to resd it! ​

Mean and Bitter Thoughts (seriously I'm gonna get nasty)?

- I'm not gonna and I wouldn't. If anybody from Marvel reads this though y'all know there are desparate PeterMj people who are gonna use your stuff to make Ai versions of how they want the story to go. Those people suck ass but given how pissed people are. Idk if venom fans will but I know people are just doing their own thing at this point on tamadachi life.

- while Eddie stans might drop the book I deadass do not know if Venom can carry this with or without Eddie. KiB was a solid ending point. Even *with* Eddie fans (which is why I suspect you moved him to spider-man)

- I spend a *lot* of time around people wearing superhero gear and while I see a lot of people wearing Venom gear its from the early days of villainy and its gonna take awhile to flood the market with Venomj.

- "well we can flood the market with MJ". While getting dogwalked by DC, flagship titles like moon knight are mourned, and Midnight is coming down the pike. If y'all do that I will tip my hat and bow man. People will bend over backwards for Spider-Man. Venom is like Vader. He's more appealing big and sharp and scary.

- congrats on the gooner statues nobody can afford now tho because almost all of us are poor.

- congrats on killing asexual/queer relationships tho. Unless MJ queer now???? 👀🫠😈 nah. Nah I really do see a slow burn family in the making that'll bring her and Peter back together like how Paul and MJ had their fake kids.

- still removed a major source of representation for a lot of people Mr. Ewing. Be cool if there was an alternative for those of us who would like more variety than mystique and her wife and Wiccan and Hulkling. Who do I write to about how something that made me feel seen and comforted is now gone? Msybe you can bring back Hercules?

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u/Maleficent_Dinner_92 — 3 days ago