u/Malevolent-Deity

The cultivation parodies are too much now. Misconceptions?
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The cultivation parodies are too much now. Misconceptions?

Picture of Han Jue since top tier providence was mentioned. No other connection.

Skip to skip if you want. Task is down below fellow Daoists.

I have strong opinions on the immortal path.

I have read many cultivation novels, most are parodies of the original daoist ideas and the founders' works, so I always used my rationale and and collective understanding of what I know and how the ultimate goals of cultivation are presented to always fill in the gaps in explanation.

Together with my sporadic love for infinite scaling beyond the levels where words even have meaning, the ideal immortal cultivation path in my mind has taken the shape of a perfect transcendental ladder to an elusive ultimate pinnacle of progression fantasy.

Top tier providence is not particularly good at explaining anything about the cultivation path in my opinion but what it does well is that it shows the utterly ridiculous levels this path can reach under the simple Daoistic assumption of soul and body Dualism (Descartes too) and spiritual Qi being a mystic energy that interacts with soul and mind.

From here on it scales to the laws of this mysric energy, the rules of worlds itself the Dao and concepts that reign over the existence of what can or cannot be perceived, thought of or conveyed. It even goes beyond if an author wants to torture himself to try and convey something beyond concepts with words, famously also concepts as anything else known to humankind.

Not to mention the supposed mental advancements needes for such sublimation of life, soul and mind, which can hardly be conveyed by mortal authors.

Later after fitting, adapting or discarding various concepts encountered in various novels like martial arts, blodldines, resources, dual cultivation, body cultivation, mental demons, talents, spiritual roots, the expected vs shown behaviour of cultivators etc. have given rise to a seemingly ideal and perfect system of transcendence in my mind that seems divine to me beyond measure. I revere the ideal of cultivation I have imagined to the point that it has become a difficulty in some situations.

I cannot read cultivation novels or read certain comments about cultivation anymore without having to add or disagree while writing entire essays below chapters or comments that rival the chapter length itself sometimes.

Naturally not everything I write online is meant to be serious, I am not trying to revel in the glory of how incredible my imagination supposedly is.

I'm asking if anyone else feels frustrated to the extreme because authors cannot reveal the potential you fellow Daoists see in the path of cultivation, that it's being undersold and misinterpreted at every corner and that oneself is unable to write a work themselves to try and correct these perceived misinterpretations.

I'm trying to enjoy novels again but it just become more difficult as time goes on and it's ruining my experience.

Well fellow Daoists, you may just skip this old Daoist's unnecessarily long ramblings and tell what you think are misconceptions or misinterpretations on how certain aspects of cultivation are depicted if we take your ideal path which you would want to walk and transcend as reference.

[You do not need to reference daoist principles or inner and outer alchemy, yin yang and five elements principles. After all, even the ancient and dead mortals are still mortals. An ideal can be pursued in any era and mistakes can made in any era too.]

u/Malevolent-Deity — 10 days ago