Silly question: Would Lakan be the son of Athena, Hermes, or Apollo? 🫪🤔

Silly question: Would Lakan be the son of Athena, Hermes, or Apollo? 🫪🤔

I'm not a fan of Percy Jackson, but the idea that certain characters could be children of gods is definitely interesting, haha.

u/Manyasrat — 9 days ago

I love picturing Zeus as a mother hen... JSHAJAJAJ

I’m sorry, but that moment in the *Dionysiaca*—even though I don’t actually like the work itself—where Nike encourages Zeus and, in a way, lifts his spirits by reminding him that he has to do it for his children too, is one of my favorites in mythology. My personal headcanon is that Zeus drew strength from a source he didn't even know he possessed when he thought about what Typhon would do to his children if he didn't win. That man is a legend.

u/Manyasrat — 15 days ago

How's it going? Jahjajaaj

- Ever since I started reading the myths, I’ve always found it funny how Athena jumps into a fight at the drop of a hat—especially with Ares.

- I have to admit, I used to think Dionysus was harmless before reading about everything he actually did.

- I was always told Athena was the strategist, but honestly, I remember Hermes using his head more than she did (Argus, Apollo’s cattle, Typhon, Circe); that guy is really underrated.

u/Manyasrat — 1 month ago

That’s Hera for you: she flatters the personification, making her believe she is superior to an Olympian deity.

xD I don’t know if Hera was serious and truly believed Apate was more eloquent than Hermes, or if she was just saying it to win her over; I mean, claiming a minor goddess is more eloquent and cunning than a major god is no ordinary compliment... and, obviously, it worked.

u/Manyasrat — 2 months ago

The hypotenuse.

I know Hermes’s reputation as a trickster stems from his role as the god of thieves, so everything he does looks like the work of a cheat; yet, if Athena did the exact same thing, it would be hailed as the work of a brilliant mind—worthy of "the smartest goddess," and so on. In other words, in the myths, Hermes seems to embody the ultimate expression of cunning and intelligence precisely because he isn't defined by warfare (whereas Athena—if she wasn't devising a way to humiliate Ares, she was busy thrashing him—so when she resorted to a "trick," it was seen as a strategy born of her warrior nature). I don't mean to belittle Athena; she was considered the wisest of the gods—which in itself implies great intelligence and wisdom—but I’ve seen many people treat Hermes like a fool... They view him as the kid who barely scrapes by in school, someone who relies on his siblings to get things done; a god far inferior to them in intelligence. They reduce him to little more than the "mischievous brother" (which, of course, he was), and honestly, that image is incredibly superficial.

For instance, when Athena helps Diomedes against Ares, she literally uses Hades’s helmet of invisibility so Ares won't see her—hahaha—which, in modern terms, is basically cheating (and I say "modern terms" because people like to define the gods using today's morality). But if Hermes tricks Argus in order to kill him, that just reinforces the idea that he’s a trickster—you know what I mean?

u/Manyasrat — 2 months ago

Dad's favorite!

Okay, I realized the previous setup was really unfair, so I made it simpler and more balanced: an unrestricted free-for-all. Out of the 10 gods, which 5 would Zeus favor most in this first round? (In other words, his favorites xD)

u/Manyasrat — 2 months ago

Apparently, Zeus doesn't hold a grudge, haha.

Okay, I’ve always found the relationship between Zeus and Hermes kind of sweet (?). Iapetus was arguably Zeus's toughest rival after—maybe—Cronus (since, let's remember, Iapetus was his right-hand man in some accounts). Zeus didn't go easy on his children, either: he meted out special punishments to Atlas and Prometheus, gave the first woman to Epimetheus (who unleashed the world's evils), and banished Menoetius to Tartarus—there’s definitely tension there.

So, the fact that Zeus made Hermes his personal herald—and arguably the god he trusts most—is touching, especially knowing Zeus likely loathes his maternal family (and it’s even more striking given how much Prometheus resembles Hermes, since Prometheus was the Titans' herald and was just as cunning and intelligent). It’s also notable that Hermes is frequently referred to as "Atlas's grandson"—highlighting his direct lineage from that Titan—whereas that kind of emphasis isn't placed on the connection between Apollo and Artemis and their grandfather, Coeus.

I know lineage didn't always matter that much—since the legacy usually passed from father to son, especially among gods—but it’s nice to think that, despite everything, Zeus loves his son, regardless of any past conflicts with the mother's family.

u/Manyasrat — 2 months ago

Were the Pleiades stars from birth, or did Zeus turn them into stars?

I always thought the Pleiades were already considered stars—being the daughters of Atlas—before Zeus transformed them. This seemed logical to me, since Atlas’s daughters were stars (and there was a reason they were considered his), and being stars from birth distinguished them from other deities who were transformed into stars.

But then there is the myth where Orion pursues them and Zeus turns them into stars out of compassion. (Although in that myth, they are chaste companions of Artemis—which also confuses me, because in the Homeric Hymn to Hermes, Maia prefers solitude and doesn't seem to have any connection to the goddess of the hunt.)

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u/Manyasrat — 3 months ago

Was Hermes associated with the creation of the alphabet and numbers prior to his syncretism with Thoth?

To be honest, I read somewhere that Hermes created letters, numbers, and the very concept of writing, but I can't recall the source. I’ve already searched until my neck hurts—I was wondering if you could help me. I seem to recall reading that Diodorus (I think) named him as the creator, though he was likely referring to the Egyptian Thoth rather than Hermes.

(por ahi tmb lei que Apolo, hermes y las moiras crearon el alfabeto, pero era una sola fuente específica)

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u/Manyasrat — 3 months ago

Silly question! What do you think the Olympians would be like in the *Steven Universe* universe?

Okay, I know it's a silly question xD; I haven't actually watched the show, but what matters here is the Gem Empire and its hierarchy.

Let's see... at first, I thought the 12 gods would all be Diamonds (which would make sense), but then I reasoned that since Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades are the only ones with their own kingdoms, they would be the only Diamonds (leaving me wondering where to place their sisters).

Zeus's court (the most straightforward one) would look like this:

-Apollo as his Sapphire.

-Hermes as his Pearl.

-Ares as a Ruby (or a Jasper).

-Athena would be a Peridot or an Amethyst.

-Hephaestus would be a Bismuth.

(I have no idea where Artemis and Dionysus would fit in.)

-Image taken from *Steven Universe*

(One of these days I'll come up with better questions, I swear.)

(Now I think Hebe fits better as a pearl than Hermes does.)

u/Manyasrat — 3 months ago

How do you think the Greek pantheon (in terms of both religion and mythology) would have evolved if it had never been eradicated?

Do you think the tone of the myths involving sexual violence would have changed? Would the same twelve principal gods still be the most prominent? Do you think some gods would have faded into obscurity? Which gods do you think might have merged?

Assume that history remains exactly the same, except that the Greek pantheon managed to prevail instead of Christianity.

u/Manyasrat — 4 months ago

Which fictional or real characters do you think would be children of gods?

Yeah, I know this isn't a Percy Jackson group (and that it really belongs there), but come on, the idea of ​​classifying certain characters as the child of a particular god is definitely interesting, and I'm curious to hear your opinion based on the gods of myth and not how Percy Jackson describes them.

(Yes, I know that it didn't really matter who your divine parent was in mythology and that the children's attitude and personality didn't depend on it, but forget that, okay?)

For example, I really think Napoleon would be someone guided by Athena (after all, he's one of the best military strategists), Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame is very Ares-like (I'm still not sure lol), and Cloppin from the same movie is Hermes-like.

u/Manyasrat — 4 months ago

What's the most hypocritical thing you've ever heard from a fan of Greek mythology?

I'll start: Defending Apollo by saying that Eros shot him with an arrow to chase Daphne, but not accepting the myth where Athena curses Medusa (both come from Ovid's Metamorphoses).

u/Manyasrat — 5 months ago

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Those unfamiliar with mythology might assume that the Olympian gods held supreme authority. However, this concept didn't exist in ancient Greece. They only knew of a group of gods called "the Twelve Gods," and the specific gods included varied by region. Therefore, the question is: beyond worship and focusing exclusively on mythology, was there any kind of hierarchy that determined the superiority of one god over another? Like, for example, the famous Olympian council composed of the most well-known gods, which is possibly a modern invention?

Because, well, if we analyze the mythology, it seems that this hierarchy of superiority doesn't exist (aside from respect for elders, of course).

In some myths, it is Zephyrus who kills Hyacinthus by deflecting the discus (despite knowing that he was Apollo's lover).

Iris calls Athena a "shameless bitch" in the Iliad, not caring that she is Athena.

There are numerous myths where minor goddesses play with Persephone, Artemis, and Athena.

Pan literally challenged Apollo to a musical contest (and he wasn't scared!).

It doesn't really seem like there's a difference in authority between them.

u/Manyasrat — 6 months ago

I was amazed to discover that there are vases with a rescued story where Athena marries Heracles (I didn't expect that!), and others where Hermes seems to play a more important role in the story of Odysseus. What other stories or versions appear only on vases (especially with the Olympian gods, of course)?

u/Manyasrat — 6 months ago

Intelligence:

Intelligence is the general mental capacity to understand, reason, solve problems, think abstractly, learn quickly, and adapt to new situations. It encompasses skills such as information processing, creativity, and memory, and is a flexible tool, not an isolated ability.

u/Manyasrat — 6 months ago