Experimental Node Tracking Research!!!
Thinking about presenting at DefCon. If you’re a Meshtastic dev get in touch.
Thinking about presenting at DefCon. If you’re a Meshtastic dev get in touch.
17Ghz, 22Ghz backhaul microwave links, 700 and 800mhz Motorola P25 systems, all three cell carriers, and looks like 70 or so more antennas! Then there is my little but mighty Meshtastic Node, less than a watt repeating comms 45 miles in all directions.
Apparently you can just pull the rack out of your oven and bounce the satellite signal off of that!
Second attempt. Signal strength places it very near us and 50 feet in any direction weaker.
For a moment we considered if it could be a Quantum node existing in a parallel dimension!
The bowl was for direction awareness. Next step a thermal imaging camera… or my laptop monitoring the serial feed.
MeshDaddySD https://amzn.to/3RgjHHa
Proof of concept for anyone building a mountaintop Meshtastic node.
My first attempt failed.
I used an aluminum IP67 enclosure, but I made penetrations into the box without accounting for pressure equalization. With hot/cold thermal cycling and some rain, the pressure changes slowly drew moisture into the enclosure. Condensation formed when the sun heated the box and eventually killed the RAK board.
So… second attempt.
This new build survived: • Simulated hurricane rain • Hot/cold thermal cycling • Direct sun exposure • Outdoor overnight humidity testing
Environment: • 1550 ft elevation • High RF site with 100+ radios • Cellular, TV, microwave backhaul links (~22 GHz nearby) • Temperatures from ~50°F to 95°F • Direct sunlight year round
Build details:
• Metal bulkhead antenna connector • Metal solar power input connector
Pressure Equalization Vent Added a waterproof membrane pressure vent specifically designed for enclosure equalization. This was probably the single most important improvement.
Cable Management Very short antenna coax to reduce loss.
Added a drip loop so any water intrusion from a seal failure drips away from the electronics instead of onto the board.
Purpose: If the vent, seals, and silica pack ever all fail simultaneously, condensation is less likely to short the board.
The internal battery is reserved as emergency backup only.
If the solar system fails or is vandalized, the node remains online long enough for me to remotely identify the failure condition.
It’s also a 4 mile hike to reach the site, so casual theft risk is pretty low.
Labeling Labeled as a community network device with: • Operating frequency • FCC Part 15 compliance notice • Contact number
Solar • 5 watt solar panel • 5V DC output • USB-C powered
Radio Hardware RAK4631 / RAK4632 based system
Antennas • 2.4 GHz antenna for Bluetooth • 5.8 dBi omni directional 915 MHz antenna
Total cost: Approximately $225
Biggest lesson learned: An IP67 box alone is NOT enough for outdoor thermal cycling. Pressure equalization and condensation management matter just as much as waterproofing.
If people want the exact parts list and Amazon links here you go! ; https://amzn.to/4fhT3HO
Feel free to ask any questions!
PS. My third potential router location (Palomar Mountain, is a snow capped summit at nearly 6000 feet in the winter. With think Ice build up.) ❄️ I need advice from people who live in cold places!!
Sharing for others who may someday build a mountain top router.
Deployed the Mountain top node, only to have discovered after a not typical rain storm in SoCal, that the modifications to the NEMA 67 metal box compromised the weather proofing.
I learned that rain can track through the threads of a bolt and bypass rubber sealing gaskets.
Also, that when you use a “sealed box” any moisture in the box, will condensate when the box heats and cools.
You can see this in the attached photos. The condensation killed the RAK board as you can see in the picture. (Yes I tried cleaning the board to no avail).
Next steps:
1.Double rubber gaskets on U bolt hole entrances on the back of the box with thread sealer.
Silica moister absorbing pack inside.
Breathing vent specific designed to not let moisture flow in.
Full direct prolonged water test.
We’ll get there San Diego.