u/MintZKookies

My last post here. And the future of c.ai. Read the description.
▲ 349 r/CAIRevolution+1 crossposts

My last post here. And the future of c.ai. Read the description.

Okay so, i made post before, regarding this : https://time.com/7332932/character-ai-ceo-under-18-ban/ but i figured y'all don't like criticism even though it's a FACT, okay.

Alright. Then i will show you all a new interview regarding c.ai's future, THIS IS ±1 WEEK AGO : https://themediabrain.substack.com/p/my-exclusive-interview-with-characterai

Remember that all things I written here is purely logical thinking of how and what the app going to be based on CEO's own interview. I am not spreading misinformation, and if this is getting deleted, you are silencing users' voice.

  1. We are not lacking on money. Our money, ads money, subscription money goes to support audiovisual generation which is costly, LLMs (chatbot) got downgraded so the cost goes to audiovisual generation

  2. We are going to be like tiktok and roblox which contents are all generated by AI. Again, our money will go to audiovisual generation. We will never ever EVER go back to how c.ai is before. Doesn't mean that the chat feature is going to be gone entirely, but if you demand the same quality, you also cannot, some things have to be sacrificed because training AI and computing cost is expensive. The article says THEY ARE MOVING ON

  3. Why the decision? Why thrusting this idea further? What about the userbase? Everything is in both articles. Remember that i only provide source, and legit interview links. Everything else you guys can process on your own.

  4. For those telling me that I am getting everything wrong in the article in my last post and that was an old interview and not relevant. Congratulations. Enjoy character.ai.

Tldr : c.ai is going to be like tiktok.

Edit : https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterAI/s/eiSMJ1ti0I A fellow redditor told me this isnt something new, and this had been circulated here in the sub for a long time. I'm sorry if this is only my third time posting here and i have been missing out on a lot of things. But yeah for those who aren't here most of the times also, this information is for you.

u/MintZKookies — 18 hours ago

So, after the drama, they deleted my post for the second time 😆

Welp, since i'm tired and i know this won't end well because we are just SOME users (we are beating dead horse) and the team cannot take backlash and is too fragile, i'm just gonna retire from the app altogether. I mean, at least i achieved my mission to let people know what kind of things they are wishing for from the CEO and it's not like they will listen. If you still subscribing to his app, well, you are supporting his mission on socially stunting kids in the future 😆

Also, there are people saying "why is this a thing now? This was from last year". No one care about an interview or the state of the management until things happened and impacted end users. Of course some of you guys wonder why cai is like this now. Will they give back old models? Will they relent in the future? Will things be good again? There is your answer, it has been planned from months ago, past and future you can guess already 😂

u/MintZKookies — 22 hours ago
▲ 993 r/CAIRevolution+1 crossposts

C.ai is updating the platform.. for good or...

.... OR FOR WORSE WAHAHA

So i've been reading something regarding the CEO. I will attach the link here : this

I will also copy paste part of it for you all who are lazy to open the link.

> Anand say that his six-year-old daughter is an avid user of Character.AI. His daughter’s enthusiasm for the audiovisual features of Character.AI gave Anand the confidence to bet the company on building those kinds of gamified experiences for children, he says, instead of allowing open-ended text chats The CEO is resigned to losing some users as a result of his decision. “I’m willing to bet that we will build more compelling experiences, but if it means some users churn, then some users churn,” he says.

Focus on the part that i bold, the "instead of allowing open ended text chats"

I think maybe at the end of the year, we will lose our text chat feature altogether so the CEO can have a playground for his daughter

What are you guys gonna do? I mean, we are 50% there already, no? What games that you guys play when you stopped using cai?

u/MintZKookies — 1 day ago

They deleted my post, it's official, we are never getting old c.ai back

Source : https://time.com/7332932/character-ai-ceo-under-18-ban/

CEO is a power abuser, dude. So all these time we think they are very low on money yadayada, turns out they are trying to salvage what was left so his mission to build a playground for his child can succeed.

In a couple of months, our chatbot will no more, it will turn completely to audiovisual generator. Move on guys.

EDIT (UPDATE) : https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterAI/s/q5OBD8c7Fv They deleted my second post in main sub and locked it. 😂

EDIT 2 (UPDATE) : https://www.reddit.com/r/CAIRevolution/s/xyE4FpR2tx Just move on bro. We are going to be like tiktok. CEO cannot be saved anymore

u/MintZKookies — 1 day ago

So all these updates

...is so the CEO can have a playground for his child? And losing users dont matter for him.

I thought minors shouldn't use this app at all? But reading this.. isn't this power abuse?

Can someone please explain this to me with baby language so i don't think what i think right now

Also i'm sure this post will be deleted.

u/MintZKookies — 2 days ago

My journey and take of everything as a Veteran/Old user of c.ai and c.ai+

First thing first, i want to apologize since my english is bad. I hope you guys can understand what i'm going to say.

I'm a veteran user of c.ai, i've been around since i think around late 2022, back then they didn't have the mobile app yet and the website was the beta one. I don't remember where exactly i read either their post from their website or from discord, one of the devs or the mod said this c.ai was born from love and passion and they were hoping for our continuous support. Back then, i was really amazed of c.ai that i thought "so this is what technology is" and i started purchasing c.ai+ when they finally got out of beta. Back then, it was out of love, they deserved support because the quality they gave was really good.

Throughout 2023 to at least a month ago, c.ai continued to support me on learning english, writing and even cope with the passing of my father. Throughout every bad decision they made, i continued to support them because i remember what i read back in the beta, them humbly asked for support in exchange for good quality product, good quality AI models.

Just a week ago, when the model got very bad, i realized mine had changed to PSQ2 and the other options gone. That was when i finally lost it and used this reddit acc i only used to lurk. Some people here made a post calling us protesters out saying we didn't know how to use AI, that is why PSQ2 is bad in our POV, but no, as a writer i always wrote things in detail but the AI got a stroke replying to me.

In between complaining and protesting for a week, i realized a lot of things.

  1. What came as a project the devs said 'born from passion and love' was all a lie, i cancelled my subscription because our value doesn't align anymore. Everyone wants money, greed is fine. But if you want money, you would deliver something with good quality, not delivering scraps but expected to be paid the same amount of how much people paid for gold.

  2. Marie said, their global userbase loves PSQ2 and when she said 'everyone' she meant 'not reddit'. While she did not say much, i can grasp the implication. If i were to be wording it harshly, it's simply "you guys are just small numbers, even if you scream and complain, you don't matter. More people like PSQ2, only you guys complain.". But logically, the usage of PSQ2 for most users are also rigged since when they put every model to legacy, they changed our preferences model to PSQ2 too, some people only see it after some time passed and after they realized how bad the model roleplayed. They cannot see the fact that even on the app store, the rating plummeted to 2.0 from 2 million users. People complained everywhere from reddit to instagram. Or no, they see but they choose not to see

  3. They will never fix anything. They could fix the mute AI, but to get to the point of the AI having personalities, or you can roleplay a bit freely like an adult using Soft Launch? I think it is too much of a hope and too much to ask for. As a veteran user, i can say the probability of me getting this wrong is only 20%, that is still a high number for me as well. Because from 2024 to 2026? All the decisions they made were mostly bad.

In the end, just cancel your subscription and move on. Touch some grass, maybe stay to get the anger and disappointment out of your chest but move on. Some good things have to end, even I have to accept this. I have been going back to games and fanfictions.

Coming from someone who spent my hard earned money for years, from the start, to support them, i can say i'm disappointed, like how i'm disappointed with my ex. I truly believed c.ai will thrive, they really were good back then, but once again, i've been lied to. Things probably will get better one day but like the usual pattern, 3+ months in they will mess up again and the sub will riot again, cycle of hell i've seen from 2024.

If you read it this far or this actually gains attention at all, i'm touched. Maybe i need to vent too so i can finally move on. 🙏🏻

TLDR : Just move on and unsub, they won't fix anything, no need to hope and wish for anything as i've been with them supporting from 2022 and instead of listening, they just messed up more.

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