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I’ve had several experiences lately that don’t feel like regular lucid dreams, but also not exactly like classic OBEs.

They often start from a lucid dream, then something changes and I end up in an extremely realistic environment — usually an apartment or house that feels completely physical and stable.

What’s strange is that these experiences have very specific characteristics:

• Everything feels solid, coherent and normal
• No bizarre dream logic
• Time feels slower and heavier than in regular lucid dreams
• Returning to waking consciousness also feels slow and gradual
• I often cannot fly or use “dream powers”
• Movement feels heavy, almost physical
• The environment feels independent from my imagination
• People seem autonomous and believable
• The realism is sometimes so strong that I become cautious (for example being afraid to jump from a balcony because it genuinely feels dangerous)

Most of the time, I reach this state while attempting an OBE from inside a lucid dream.

My usual method is to deliberately throw myself backward during the lucid dream, almost like letting go of the dream body.

When this happens:

• the environment often turns completely white and luminous,
• there is a transition phase,
• and then I suddenly find myself inside a fully physical-feeling body in another environment.

One time, I even had the strong impression of being inside someone else’s body while still retaining my own waking identity and memories.

Last night for example:

1. I became lucid inside a dream and ended up in a completely realistic apartment. I tried to fly but couldn’t. I even hesitated to jump from the balcony because the place felt 100% real.
2. Later, after re-entering the state, I found myself in a very dark environment. I repeatedly asked for “clarity” and vision. Slowly the scene appeared: another apartment, ground floor, daytime outside. I saw several young girls outside the window. They didn’t seem to see me directly, but reacted as if they noticed movement from the curtains. I tapped on the glass and even made a heart shape in the condensation so they wouldn’t get scared.

What makes these experiences different from normal lucid dreams for me:

• Much more stable
• Less fantasy-like
• Less control over the environment
• Strong sense of “being somewhere” rather than generating a dream
• Very realistic physics and perception
• Emotional tone feels calmer and more grounded

Some authors like Robert Monroe, Buhlman or Raduga seem to describe similar states, sometimes called “Locale III”, “real-time zone”, or “The Phase”.

Has anyone else experienced this kind of “Level 2” hyper-realistic state?

Especially:

• inability to fly,
• realistic physics,
• autonomous characters,
• gradual scene formation from darkness,
• and the feeling that it’s more real than a normal lucid dream?