r/GatewayExperiences

I’ve had several experiences lately that don’t feel like regular lucid dreams, but also not exactly like classic OBEs.

They often start from a lucid dream, then something changes and I end up in an extremely realistic environment — usually an apartment or house that feels completely physical and stable.

What’s strange is that these experiences have very specific characteristics:

• Everything feels solid, coherent and normal
• No bizarre dream logic
• Time feels slower and heavier than in regular lucid dreams
• Returning to waking consciousness also feels slow and gradual
• I often cannot fly or use “dream powers”
• Movement feels heavy, almost physical
• The environment feels independent from my imagination
• People seem autonomous and believable
• The realism is sometimes so strong that I become cautious (for example being afraid to jump from a balcony because it genuinely feels dangerous)

Most of the time, I reach this state while attempting an OBE from inside a lucid dream.

My usual method is to deliberately throw myself backward during the lucid dream, almost like letting go of the dream body.

When this happens:

• the environment often turns completely white and luminous,
• there is a transition phase,
• and then I suddenly find myself inside a fully physical-feeling body in another environment.

One time, I even had the strong impression of being inside someone else’s body while still retaining my own waking identity and memories.

Last night for example:

1. I became lucid inside a dream and ended up in a completely realistic apartment. I tried to fly but couldn’t. I even hesitated to jump from the balcony because the place felt 100% real.
2. Later, after re-entering the state, I found myself in a very dark environment. I repeatedly asked for “clarity” and vision. Slowly the scene appeared: another apartment, ground floor, daytime outside. I saw several young girls outside the window. They didn’t seem to see me directly, but reacted as if they noticed movement from the curtains. I tapped on the glass and even made a heart shape in the condensation so they wouldn’t get scared.

What makes these experiences different from normal lucid dreams for me:

• Much more stable
• Less fantasy-like
• Less control over the environment
• Strong sense of “being somewhere” rather than generating a dream
• Very realistic physics and perception
• Emotional tone feels calmer and more grounded

Some authors like Robert Monroe, Buhlman or Raduga seem to describe similar states, sometimes called “Locale III”, “real-time zone”, or “The Phase”.

Has anyone else experienced this kind of “Level 2” hyper-realistic state?

Especially:

• inability to fly,
• realistic physics,
• autonomous characters,
• gradual scene formation from darkness,
• and the feeling that it’s more real than a normal lucid dream?

Hello everyone,

I’m writing this after finishing my One-Month Patterning practice (Focus 12). Instead of getting the smooth, positive results that I usually read about here, it seems that everything I pattered took me down completely different—and frankly, unpleasant—roads.

Instead of showing me the experiences I desired, the process brought a lot of heavy contrast, forcing me to face things that aren't working in my life right now.

Have any of you experienced this kind of intense contrast or reverse results during your practice? If so, how did you process it, and what do you think is the greater message or lesson behind these contrasting experiences when the patterning doesn't go the way you expected?

Thanks for reading.

English is not my native language. I write simple, but I try to share important thing. Please be patient with my grammar.

This is from shamanic session I did with subject I call Omar. He is adult man from Houston area. During healing soul journey, he dropped into theta brainwave trance. Past childhood. Past trauma. All way to before he was born.

What he found there was not what anyone expect.

Before incarnation, Omar and his mother were together. No bodies. No space between them. Just consciousness. He describe it like this: "Like there's no separation and there's no space. I feel more like a blob than anything else." She was close, another node of awareness next to him.

Then he saw something like checklist. Experiences this life would bring. Weakness. Helplessness. Hard things. And he did not want to go.

He said: "I don't think I want to go." It will be difficult.

But then he undrestood that this is how light expands into darkness and help others. "It feels like it's a required experience." His Higher Self showed him why. The point was not to fix anything. The point was to understand. "It's not for changing. It's for understanding." You can study suffering from outside. But you only know it by living it.

His mother agreed on soul level to play the harsh role. Her mission was to make him tough enough for this world. She did it. But there was cost. Some beings volunteer for dark roles. Not because they are evil. Because the plan requires it.

When we finished, Higher Self had simple message. "Love everyone. Let go. Learn to forgive."

The Lesson

You chose this life. Even the painful parts. Not because you deserve suffering, but because before incarnating you wanted to understand something that can only be learned through direct experience. The people who hurt you may have been volunteers too. This does not excuse what happened. But it can change how you carry it.

Practical Exercise

Find quiet place where nobody will disturb you for twenty minutes. Sit or lie down, whatever is comfortable. Close eyes.

Take five slow breaths. On each exhale, let your body get heavier. Feel the weight of your arms, your legs, your head sinking into whatever supports you.

Now imagine you are standing at the edge of a vast, dark space. Not scary dark. More like the dark before stars were born. Warm. Infinite. This is the space before incarnation. Before body. Before name.

Step into it. Let yourself float. There is no ground, no direction. Just awareness.

Ask silently: "Show me the moment before I came here."

Do not force anything. Let image, feeling, or knowing come on its own. Maybe you see light. Maybe you feel presence of other beings near you. Maybe you sense a decision being made. Maybe you feel reluctance, like something inside you did not want to go. That is okay. Just observe.

If you see or feel something, stay with it. Do not analyze. Do not judge. Just be there, like you are watching a memory that is older than your body.

When you feel ready, take three slow breaths and come back. Open eyes slowly. Write down whatever you got, even if it make no sense. Especially if it make no sense. The logical mind will try to explain it away. Let it be strange.

Do this for seven days in row. First time you may see nothing. That is normal. The door opens when you stop knocking so hard. By day three or four, something usually surface. A feeling, a image, a knowing that was not there before. Trust it.

Michael Hutchison was a early consciousness pioneer/reporter in the 1980's. He was on the cutting edge of experimenting and exploring new Brain/Mind technologies. This is a first hand account on his experience with the Gateway Program in 1985, his talks with Robert and watching the Explorer team.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x6L7lA0LM3gjDUhD1aeEt3qoxYWOFc21/view?usp=drive_link

This is an article and audio interview about what happened years after Michael went through The Gateway Program, and fell on really hard times, which is just as interesting.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BKia95K6UwC9_k9c1hD4xFvRUQA4UNvj/view?usp=drive_link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQn1n6FEl_Q

Michael passed away July 22, 2013, this is lovely talk about him and his life from an old friend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etsl237GaW4&t=10s

If you visit the Internet Archive you can view old copies of his Megabrain Report, which are very dated, but are interesting to see what people were doing back then.

I haven’t done the tapes yet but I do have strong intuition and can pick up energies individual and collective. Let’s just say… the energy right now is not it… it feels like we are on the precipice of chaos and need to brace for impact- and soon. But I only pick up feelings and I cannot get anymore precise or vivid insights.

I know the tapes help with sharpening abilities, and many people have had “visions” I was wondering if anyone has developed insight on where things might be heading?

This is a bit strange, i have never been able to do the five questions tape, except once. Every time i try it, something blocks it. Either someone knocks on the door, guests arrive out of nowhere, the tale itself becomes corrupted and so on. Ive tried to do it atleast 10 times now. I completed it once. And had a bad reaction the next day morning. I woke up crying for some reason. Had a dream about some deep seated trauma i guess and woke up crying.

Any input on why this keeps happening. Today i had a feeling to try the tape, tried it and my grandfather came in opened the front door, came to my room to open it. I had every distraction removed and usually have 3 hrs free time everyday during this time, still this happened🫠

Hello, Im just beginning my research before starting the experience. I was wondering if anyone had the manuals they’d be willing to send to me, and also any recommendations for where best to listen to the tapes. Thank you for your time 😊

English not my native, so I write simple. Sorry if something wrong.

I do soul journey sessions where people go deep and meet Higher Self. And I see this pattern very often - someone comes with anxiety, depression, feeling of never belonging. They have good life on paper. But inside is empty and scared. They not know why.

What I found is - the reasons are not always from this life.

I had session recently with woman. Lets call her Helen. She came because she felt anxious all the time. Depressed. Afraid of being alone. She felt she never belongs anywhere.

When she went deep, she found herself as a little girl. But not in this life. She was in a past life, maybe 200 years ago. Her name was Malayla. She was around five years old, barefoot in green grass, wearing a green skirt, carrying a leather bag with pebbles. She was lost in a forest near her village.

The forest had wolves. She was scared. She had run away from home because she was upset.

As the session unfolded, we saw her whole life. At 23 she married a good man - but she did not love him. She went through with it because it was tradition. At 35 her mother died. The man left her later. She raised children alone. At 93 she died poor and skinny.

in the afterlife, her husband appeared and said he loved her. He forgave her. He told her she was okay as she was. The guilt she carried was not about leaving him. It was about marrying him without real love. He wanted her to know she was forgiven. Her mother came too. Malayla told her mother she loved her - something she never said in life.

So what does this have to do with anxiety and depression now?

Higher Self explained that Helen carries the memory of all those separations. Leaving the village as a child. Losing father early. Marriage without love. Mother dying. Husband leaving. Dying alone. Each separation created a wound in her energy system.

When she came into this life, those wounds made her afraid. Afraid to be alone. Afraid to trust. Afraid to belong - because every time she belonged in that past life, she lost it.

The depression was linked to stopping the things she loves. In the past life, she stopped doing what made her alive. In this life, she stopped surfing, stopped being outside, stopped connecting with nature. Same pattern repeating.

The hip pain she had? It was not the hip. Higher Self said it was a broken heart wound from the past life manifesting as this pain.

Healing was not instant. Higher Self used white light to reprogram the anxiety. Golden light for the hip and heart. But the main instruction was simple: return to what restores the heart. Nature. Water. Warmth. Doing what she loves. Letting people in slowly.

The lesson here is - if you feel anxious or depressed and you not know why, maybe the reason is not from today. Maybe it is from another life or your childhood events you forgot. The feeling of never belonging, the fear of being alone, the sadness that has no cause in this life - it can be a memory your body carries from somewhere else.

The healing is not to fight the feeling. Is to feel it and understand where it comes from. And then to show your body that now is different. Now you are safe. Now you can trust.

If this resonates, try this simple exercise:

Sit somewhere quiet. Close your eyes. Take three deep breaths.

Imagine you are standing in a misty forest, like Malayla did. You feel lost and scared. But now you are not a child. You are adult and you have light in your hands.

Look down at your heart. See if there is a cord or chain attached to it - something old, maybe from another time. Do not pull it. Just place your hand over it. Say out loud or inside: "I see you. I am not there anymore. I am here now, and I am safe."

Then imagine golden light coming from the sky into your heart. Let it fill the old wound. Stay like this for 5-10 minutes.

Do this every night before sleep for 2 weeks. The body needs time to learn that the old story is over.

Hope it helps. Take care.

So a while ago I had an astral projection experience that was memorable, but not in the same way my other previous experiences had been. In this instance though, I’m pretty sure I went about 6–8 months into the future. I was meditating, laying on my bed, listening to a binaural beats/Hemi-Sync sound frequency meditation with the desire to induce an OBE, but not forcing it, just open to whatever. Then after about an hour and 20 minutes ish, it began, the heaviness and then the intense vibration. It always feels like I'm on one of those old-school carnival rides where they strap you into the center of a gyroscope and spin you 360° in every direction to mimic astronaut training.

​I started to slowly raise out of my physical body, which always seems to start slow, with my hands or arms. They once they were out, I very quickly begin to roll off the side of my bed, a.k.a "the roll out method". Every time I do this, I’m so scared that I’m not actually gonna be out of body and I’m going to end up knocking the heck out of my head on my bedside table. Thankfully though, that’s yet to happen. lol. So I end up kinda floating on my back, up through my ceiling (I lived on the bottom floor of an apartment building) and into the upstairs unit. I was floating above a brown leather sectional sofa with an ottoman that was pushed up against the far right wall of the living room. I saw a cute little girl, maybe 5 or 6, in her stomach, sprawled out, laying over top the ottoman. She was half watching TV that was on some kids network and half fidgeting with a toy in her hands, and I could hear her occasionally talking to and looking off at someone to her left in the dining room, which was just out of my sight.

​I decided to go around the corner to see who it was and I saw a woman who I presumed was the mother, that's definitely the feel I got. She was multitasking; cooking while also folding clothes and/or towels on the dining room table. When I fully turned that corner, I was now at one end of the hallway that lead to the bedrooms and I see two other young girls, but just. slightly older than the first. I could tell they were all sisters; they were sitting on the floor playing with some toys that were scattered about, I think the main one was a Barbie-style dollhouse. I was just observing, but I was confused because these were not my current neighbors! Yet for some reason, the thought of traveling in time didn't even occur to me; I just thought my OBE had turned into a lucid dream or something possibly.

​I end up getting a little too bold and decide to dive down in front of the two girls. I wasn’t really expecting them to see me, but I wondered if they might, since children can often sense energies and spirits more easily. I was about three feet in front of them at eye level, watching them play, when suddenly they noticed me. They began quetly questioning each other, with confused faces and then they just started giggling and kinda pointing right at me. I’m surprised I wasn’t snapped right back into my body in that moment because I became so nervous to be spotted, even though I’d basically asked for it! lol. I was nervously and kinda sheepishly smiling, trying to send out positive, safe, loving vibes (even though I probably only appeared as a ball of light or something) and thinking I should probably leave because it just felt "wrong," when then literally less than ten seconds later, the mom realizes somethings happening.​

I guess because of the slight, yet sudden eruption of giggles and excitement from the 2 girls, she turned directly around from the stove, with pan and spatula still in hand, and legit propelled in my direction. I knew she couldn't actually see me, but she had that womanly and motherly intuition that something "supernatural" (for lack of a better word) was going on. She started yelling in my direction and threatening me, cursing me out, telling me to leave right now while waving the frying pan in the air, but down towards my general direction.

Needless to say, my butt was gone! I panicked so hard and said "I’m so sorry!" with a panicked expression (whether in my head or with the lips of my energy body, I’m not sure) and jolted out of there.

Immediately I was back in my bed feeling so much guilt. I felt terrible that I might have scared that woman, probably thinking I was some demon trying to harm her kids or something. Geeze, I still feel awful about it and its a lesson learned, I'll never get that close to people again, or do any kind of spying. lol. Though that wasnt my intent, just kinda where I ended up. Anyways, it took me like 30 minutes to calm down from that and remember that these weren't even my current neighbors at that time and I hadn't ever even seen these people in my waking reality before, that I knew of. It absolutely didn’t feel like a dream though; it felt like your classic OBE. And again, at this time, the thought of time travel didn't enter my mind for some reason.

Then, about 6 to 8 months later, we got new upstairs neighbors; a woman and her three daughters. It didn’t even dawn on me until a few months after they had moved in, when I was sitting down to recall and write down my prior astral experiences. That’s when it hit me; my new neighbors were the same people from that encounter half a year prior. My mind was so blown; I probably just sat there staring into the void with my jaw gaped open for who knows how long. lol

Overall ​it was a very interesting and eye opening experience and the only time I've experienced what seems like a form of astral time travel. It’s funny because I’ve actually tried to go to the past and observe my own childhood before, but with no success, but when I wasn’t even intending to do it, I end up 6+ months in the future. Or maybe it’s not time travel in the way we usually think of it, but more of a multiverse thing. Idk, but I’d love to hear if anyone else has had an encounter like this?

Since you started a mediation practice via listening to the Gateway Experience tapes, do any of the following resonate with you:

1. Seeing electromagnetic looking, old analog TV style, white or grey coloured 'static' either in lucid dreams, during an OOBE experience, or in open or closed eye visions. Do you see that static in your minds eye since.

2. Have you, ever had open and or closed eye visions or had random 'remote viewing type experiences, in which you vividly saw humanoid figures, either in 'situation rooms' or similar settings, working in rows on computers, wearing military uniform.

3. Have you ever had lucid dreams, OOBEs, or similar, open or closed eye visions of 'scientists' or, in other words, humanoid looking people in lab coats, working in a laboratory like setting.

4. Have you had visions, lucid dreams, or OOBE and seen a giant eye or an 'all seeing eye'?

5. Have you ever had the sense of being 'under surveillance' and seeing a lot of eyeballs during mediation or in visions since you started listening to the Gateway Experience tapes.

6. Have you had open and/or visions, lucid dreams, or remote viewed biblical themed symbolism and / or occult themed imagery and symbols since you started listening to the tapes?

7. Since you started the Gateway process, do you have trouble sleeping or occasional or regular experience of unusual dream 'interference'?

8. Have you ever had 'audio perceptual phenomena' disturbances or 'visual perceptual phenomena' disturbances, since starting the tapes?