Why do many people think Hongwus purge was responsible for the overthrow of Jianwen emperor, when it was Jianwen's own incompetence.

Many people blaim the fall of Jianwen of the Ming solely on Hongwus purges, or atleast this is a very often repeated narrative. When infact it was Jianwens own incompetency, and Zhu di future Yongle empeor's military talent, that caused the situation to collapse, first of all the central goverment had a way larger army not to mention it had no shortage of competent genrals, Xu Huizu the son of Xu Da, being a prime example he managed to defeat Yan forces, but was recalled to Nanjing by Jianwen who failed to properly utilize him.

Aswell as the replacing of veteran genral Geng Bingwen who served in the red turbab rebellion era, whose defensive tactics was working against Zhu Di, even after a major feild defeat, with Li Jinglong who was better favoured by the officals but little skill. Li Jinglong was granted command of a large army, but was constantly out manuverd, and defeated multiple times. The truth is because Jianwen was too unlike his grandfather he actually listened to the officals, and beurocrats for everything.

This was not a lack of competent genrals, the way Jianwen mismanged actual talents it's no surprise he failed, along with the militarily competency of Zhu di. It's a little disappointing how people blaim this on Hongwus purge of military commanders, while ignoring the fact that many competent commanders or their prodigy were still alive, and more then enough to crush Yan if properly coordinated, Hongwu isn't stupied you don't just proclaim a ""vastly martial"" era without knowing something like maybe he should leave a few competent genrals around, I mean why do you think Xu Da's son kept his titles.

The Yan rebellion was actually being contained by a coalition of Hongwu era commanders or their protégé, Xu Huizu is the main example, his recall disrupted this success.

He Fu for another general served under Fu Youde, and Lan Yu, was competent he, Ping An, and Xu Huizu worked together to halt Yan advance but Xu was recalled leaving them in a much weaker position. Ping An was another Hongwu era commander, he nearly captured Zhu Di in another battle, the recall of Xu Huizu disrupted, and weakend their forces causing a defeat that costed the life of Ping An, and the isolation of Hefu.

Jianwen was incompetent belived everything officals with no military experience told him, while ignoring advice from experienced military figures. Horribly managed the situation, Yan was on the verge of defeat yet he recalls Xu.

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u/Mysterious-Gas-7365 — 2 days ago

Why do people assume Chiang kaishek, and the KMT didn't want to eradicate Chinese religion?

In his April 1938 address “Why I Believe in Jesus,” Chiang said

“Therefore, while we must eradicate all superstitions, we must at the same time cultivate a strong and positive faith.” and “Religious faith ought to exist and ought to be allowed freedom but superstition absolutely ought not to exist and should be thoroughly eradicated.”

The KMT definition of superstition was native Chinese belifs or folk religion, they targeted shrines, temples, Daoist preists, closed many temples, destroyed some, banned fengshui etc in Canton they made the Daoists burn their own scriptures, and idols of gods, or they would be aressted. The damage done to folk religion is arguably only second to the cultural revolution, arguably the reform era CCP has done more for Chinese religion then the KMT. The KMT also targeted particular deity cults for permanent abolition. One example of large scale persecution is In 1936, when the Guangzhou/Canton government ordered all Zhengyi/Daoist ritual halls within the police districts to cease operation immediately, remove their signs, the preists were made to burn their idols/books/ritual implements, and stop performing specified rituals, with arrest threatened for violations. Native funeral practice, and ancestor worship was also discouraged, and chirstian ones promoted, so my question is why do people often blame the CCP for trying to destroy Chinese culture etc, but think the KMT was somehow a traditional Chinese tradition oriented state? When in fact the KMT were doing the same thing except they were trying to promote their christian belifs disguised as confucianism.

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u/Mysterious-Gas-7365 — 4 days ago

Is there a way to grant title inheritance to rulers in the celestial goverment?

I haven't played in a while but but I want to install members of my house as local princes kind of like what Jin, and Ming dynasty did. Is there a way to grant title inheritance, I know that vassals can petition for house appointment, but this can't be granted. Is there someway to do this?

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u/Mysterious-Gas-7365 — 5 days ago

Ming dynasty thirteen tombs.

Highly recommend a visit here. It is in the outskirts of Beijing which means it's managed much better. I only found one of those weirdly modern things that kind of ruin the whole atmosphere id they're placed everywhere like in other places, in final photo.

Highly recommend Beijing.

u/Mysterious-Gas-7365 — 10 days ago

How devastating was the 150 year long Qing dynasty Literary inquisition?

What was the actual scale of works lost, and destroyed or altered, how much of Chinese history was changed and how many works were destroyed, how much of Ming history is inaccurate or alterd, how much of Chinese works had been edited and changed?

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u/Mysterious-Gas-7365 — 20 days ago

Why did China during the Republican era deliberately destroy parts of Chinese culture?

Unlike Japan which adopted western culture selectively while still maintaining Japanese traditions, China blindly adopted western traditions and labeld traditional culture as backwards and feudal during the republican era. For example Chinese art, the southern school art style which was the defining image of Chinese art for the past thousand years was abandoned in favor of Japanese and western art, the Lingnan school of Canton quickly replaced Chinese art. Other examples include closing of temples labeling traditional religions as superstition, the abandonment of confucianism, which is understandable it was used as a tool of forgien rule by the Qing for hundreds of years, but it really feel like instead of reviving and modernizing Chinese culture the Republicans really went for modernize = western. This is different then Japn which kept it's religion, traditional art and rituals.

I doubt it was due to anti manchu sentiment and association of traditional culture with Manchh rule as the Republicans were happy to keep wearing Manchurian clothing. Many elites of the roc including Chiang and Sun yet sen were christians, so perhaps this could have been why. So why did Japan embrace modernity on their own terms while the Chinese veiwed modernization as westernization?

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u/Mysterious-Gas-7365 — 21 days ago

I assumed deepseek would be more knowledgeable on traditional Chinese items, I was so wrong.

I asked if I could clean a gourd cage with water, it told me yes, this cost me my insect gourd cage I bought in Beijing. I asked it why it told me this, it's response was it thought I was talking about a bird cage, even though all of our pervious conversations had been about where to find and buy a 蝈蝈葫芦, aswell as conversations about insects. Idk felt like I had to share this don't assume deepseek is somehow more knowledgeable on Chinese subjects it may cost you a antique, thank goodness it was rather cheap. It's excuse was also that it applied a western lense to my question or something.

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u/Mysterious-Gas-7365 — 1 month ago