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Outlander Series Extra Long Reread- Voyager chapters 42- 48

Outlander Series Extra Long Reread- Voyager chapters 42- 48

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This week we started with The Man in the Moon

The man in the moon can mean more than one thing:

-men going to the moon

- Jamie, his head it is dark against the moon - he is a man in the moon

- the face that can be seen n the dark and light areas of the moon.

One controversial line is Stay fit at the end of Claire's letter to Brianna. tThe purpose of this line was to break the tension, restoring the relationship between Claire and Bree with famous ''Claire humor''. She is reasserting her role as Bree's other. There is bitter sweetness and it gave a comic relief. Jamie is laughing at Claire's coment as well. Claire was trying to give Bree a mother to remember, although she is absent.

Are you annoyed by it?

''Ghost afraid of spittle''- similar to pissing on the door posts.

While examining IInnes, Claire ,once again, shows wisdom and ift for healing and diagnosis.

Forces of nature are many in chapter 44. Our Frasers are definitely one of those!!

I could literaly feel the smells of rotten meat, that was the level of being in the scene. And it was horrible!

Mr. Willoughby's Tale is very interesting!

Parallels : Mr Willoughby and Claire :

- both outlanders ( culturally with no way back)

- forced to live among people who consider them ''others'' and mistrust them

- have specialized skills / knowledge and both use their hands

- both are tolerated by the rest because of Jamie

- both are skilled in healing arts which are alien to the others

Mr Willoughby and Jamie :

- both lost their birth rights

- they can't practice their true trade/ skills

- had to make hard decisions in their youths

- both are enduring consequences of those decisions as wiser / older people

- both exiled

Vow to heal VS mariage vow - There are times when Claire puts her healing vows in front of everything - her safety included. Jamie, unlike Frank, understands that , it doesn't mean she loves him less.

What did you think about this exchange between Jamie and Claire? Can he understand her devotion to healing? Can he accept it ?

Talking about vows, Claire ( when threatening Mr Tompkins) is bending her medical vow for the sake of her marriage vows . She is putting Jamie's well being ahead of her medical ethics

Moment of grace - grace of forgiveness

Claire crossed herself - Jamie's religious beliefs beginning to influence Claire. She was asking God to watch over her and give her strength.

Claire leaned her head against the gun - just like an officer after the battle.

John recognized the sense of failure, he experienced the same and he relieved her sense of isolation. He is like an angel -she is forgiven for not being able to save all her patients.

I really like how this encounter went by. And you? Do you think this conversation will have an impact in the further story?

u/Nanchika — 3 days ago

Outlander Series Extra Long Reread- Voyager: chapters 38- 41

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One of the funniest scenes were in the chapter 38 when Jamie and Jenny are waiting for Hobart MacKenzie to come and take revenge. But, Ned Gowan is back!

What do you think about Jamie agreeing on leaving Laoghaire with nice amount of money?

Mary MacNab brought the food and put it in front of Jamie, as if he were the laird. She is the piece of Jamie's past still unshared with Claire.

Do you think he should have told her then and there?

Ian's initiation ceremony into manhood went wrong. I can feel Jamie's desperation so well. Do you think Jamie did well not informing Jenny and Ian what happened?

'I Shall Go Down to the Sea', we are going to set sails on Artemis - goddes of chastity ( Marsali) , hunting ( hunt for Ian ) , moon ( talk about moon in the chapter 42).

Old coins - When Claire was preparing to leave, Roger was commenting on the value of the old coins as well. Good parallel there!

Claire visiting Faith's grave and meeting Mother Hildegarde. I love that she went there and left pink tulip.

Willoughby's words about Reverend rang an alarm in my head. I knew we will see him again eventually.

Traitor among smugglers - decoy on the real traitor - casting suspicion on everyone kept Jamie on guard.

What do you think about Fergus and Marsali's pairing at this point? Does she have any idea what she put herself into?

Acupuncture scene was hilarious. The way Claire and Willoughby handled it was perfect! Twisted testicles, pah! 🤣

u/Nanchika — 9 days ago

Outlander Series Extra Long Reread-Voyager : chapters 32- 37

We are in part seven, named Home Again.

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The Prodigal's Return can definitely refer to more than one person returningto Lallybroch.

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My heart breaks when I see how Claire is longing for home. Especially when she asked Jamie if they would live at Lallybroch in one of the previous chapters. Do you think they could have lived there happily? Or the pull to make their own place elsewhere was too strong?

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Why did Jamie want to be punished by wee Ian as well?

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Was it to motivate him to behave and to demonstrate that he was sorry that Ian was bearing such a load of anger from his parents? Jamie was guilty for keeping Ian in Edinburgh.

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I saw it as that and also as a way for Ian to be cautious about his actions in the future as they can lead to this same situation and punishing his uncle as well.

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Jamie and Claire's time in their chamber at Lallybroch is definitely ''calm before the storm''. I wonder if the title of the chapter means that there are more things burried in Jamie's past , and not only the treasure on the island.

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And then we hear that famous word - ''Daddy''

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In Jamie's eyes , Laoghaire had a teenage crush on him, was mildly upset because of his marriage to Claire , but that doesn't make her a bad person. He doesn't see why Claire considers it betrayal.

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During the fight, it is interesting that it seems that in Jamie's mind, Claire went back to her normal life, he didn't consider its happines.

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Why didn't Jamie tell Claire about the marriage? He was afraid that Claire will leave him.

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What always grates my ears is scene where Jamie is calling Claire a bitch. I believe it shows the level of his emotions. He called her that before (during their fight in book 1) and asked for forgiveness. Twenty years of harshness and trials later, he calls her that and worse.

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Many people ask - Why did Jamie bring Claire to Lallybroch?

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Gabaldon gave an answer to this question:

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-He wanted to be away from Edinburgh where she can vanish in crowd and leave for Craigh na Dun.

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- Lallybroch contains their shared memories

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- He trusts in her but not in his own abilities

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- Showing Claire that she is his only wife, his priority.

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Claire has an instant urge to bolt and run and then to think it over. That is why she flies from Eden. Eden = Lallybroch = Jamie and Claire's eden.

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What was Jenny's motivation to tell Claire to go?

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Claire was expecting Jamie to come and bring her back. She begins losing her heart in flight to the stones. She gave him chance to prove he is choosing her and fighting for her.

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On the other hand, Jamie was expecting Claire to return. Were they testing each other's commitment?

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Ian going after Claire and retelling what happened is hilarious!!! Highly needed dose of humor!! That and Jamie talking to Claire thinking she is a part of fever dream. Precious!!!

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What's In a Name - is powerful chapter. It reveals so many crucial things about Jamie's past and present.

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Laoghaire and Jamie's marriage :

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They had already had a story, she knew his story. They both had bad experiences in the past. Jamie was her fantasy but he didn't live up to expectations. Laoghaire wished he was like he used to be with Claire, but her dreams were shattered. Jamie called for Claire in his sleep. So, she was practically married to a half- man.

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''Here in the dark, with you, I have no name'' is one of my favourite lines ever! It means so much. It means that he gives her himself , and gives her opportunity to do the same. He offers her not only physical protection , but the protection of his heart and soul, giving her opportunity to protect him s well. He is not limited by labels and titles. He opened his secret self to her.

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If you want to add anything, be my guest!!

u/Nanchika — 17 days ago

A Blessing For a Warrior Going Out Excerpt 16/06

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Excerpt from A BLESSING FOR A WARRIOR GOING OUT, Copyright 2026 Diana Gabaldon

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John Grey sat up abruptly, hearing the grate of the key in the lock. The door swung open and the big Polish seaman sidled in, bearing a tray.

“Has no one ever told you that you should knock before entering someone’s room?” John asked. “What if I had been engaged in something requiring privacy?”

He didn’t expect an answer, which was a good thing, as he didn’t get one. He had inveigled the Pole into telling him at least his first name, by dint of deliberately meeting the man’s eye every time the Pole appeared, touching his own chest and saying, “John,” very distinctly.

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It had taken more than a week, but one day, the Pole set down his tray, tapped his own chest delicately, and gruffly said, “Mikolaj.” Then hurried out, not looking at John, but leaving him with a fleeting sense of exhilaration.

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This had not led to any further exchange of confidences, though, and Mikolaj had reverted to his original face of stone when bringing in trays, removing chamber pots and escorting John on occasional strolls around the deck, the Pole carrying the iron ball attached to Grey’s ankle chain. While he appreciated the courtesy—if that’s what it was—it made him somewhat nervous, as he realized that should Mikolaj, whether by Richardson’s order or from simple pique, choose to toss the heavy ball overboard, Grey himself would inevitably follow it to the bottom of the sea.

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For the moment, though, their interaction was limited to the placement of the tray on Grey’s small desk, and his customary thanks to the seaman. As he opened his mouth to utter this, though, he had a thought, and seizing the Pole’s sleeve to prevent his immediate departure, pointed to himself, saying, “John,” and at once at the Pole, saying, “Mikolaj.” Then to himself, “Thank you” and once more pointed at Mikolaj, eyebrows raised in question.

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The Pole’s face went blank—well, slightly blanker than usual—for a moment. Then his lips pursed in thought, but after a moment, he nodded and said something that sounded like, “Jenkooyeh.”

“Jenkooyeh,” John said and bowed. The Pole gave him a short nod, turned and left.

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Well, he supposed he could learn to speak Polish one word at a time. He wasn’t bloody doing anything else…

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He glanced at the small stack of hand-written pages, placed criss-cross fashion to separate the documents:

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A letter to William. Well, another letter to William. This was what, the fifth? Sixth?

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Two sheets of fragmentary poetry—well, doggerel, at least, and he did wonder why it should be called that. He was fond of dogs, but had never detected any sense of whimsy, let alone any talent for rhyme in one.

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A draft--another one—of his will. He was slightly hampered in the disposition of his property by not knowing exactly what it consisted of. He owned a small property in Philadelphia; he’d bought the house on Chestnut Street outright—but given the vagaries of war and government, had no idea whether he still owned it, or whether it had been appropriated by the Crown for the billeting of soldiers, or confiscated by the Continental Congress as the property of an enemy alien.

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His house in Savannah was presumably still in British hands, but that was only rented.

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He thought he had some share in a Cornish tin mine, but where it was, or of what his share consisted, he had no idea.

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_Why don’t I even know anything about my own affairs?_ He thought crossly.

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_You don’t know, because you don’t care_.

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“Well, not about houses,” he said aloud. “Nor yet bloody tin mines.” He pushed the paper away and sat back in his chair. At his request, Miklolaj had had the port opened for light and air, and a brisk sea-breeze ruffled his hair and fluttered the papers on his table.

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_What_ do _you care about_?

“William,” he said, touching the small stack of pages. “Mother. Hal. Minnie and the boys.”

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The thought of Hal’s sons conjured thoughts of Benjamin, and he felt a cramp in his gut. There was nothing whatever that he could do about it, though, and he forced his thoughts in a different direction.

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_That bloody Scot_,” he thought, and smiled, despite himself. _And Claire_, he added, to be fair.

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“Oh, and Brianna, of course.” Thought of that redoubtable young woman made him smile again, and he picked up his quill and took a fresh sheet of paper.

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“_My Dear_,” he wrote, “_you will never suppose where I am—I would tell you, but I have no Idea, the Atlantic Ocean being a rather large Place. Finding myself with Time and to spare, I think I will amuse myself—and, perhaps, you—with the Tale of my recent Travails…_.”

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His attempt to do this, though, met with difficulties. Being hit on the head and dragooned had the benefit of action, but the state of being kidnapped, considered solely for its dramatic effect, was rather…well, not boring, exactly, but far from entertaining.

He was further constrained by the knowledge that Richardson might read any of his papers whenever he chose, and it might therefore be less than prudent to tell Brianna Fraser MacKenzie what Richardson’s professed motives were, let alone his own opinion of the man.

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_Demented, and doesn’t wash often enough_. That made him smile, though the description—had he written it—would have continued with _Bloody dangerous, though_.”

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Sighing, he put that letter aside for the moment and returned to the one to William.

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“My dearest son…” _To hell with Jamie Fraser, you’re my son as much—if not more—than his_… “With luck, you will never receive this…” _Idiot. If he doesn’t ever receive it, why should I apologise for sending it? But that’s not the point—if he does receive it, that should signal a sense of apology, shouldn’t it?

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_Oh, fncking hell…_

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NB: The painting is "Baby's Birthday" by Frederick Daniel Hardy, 1867, courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.

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u/Nanchika — 20 days ago

Outlander Series Extra Long Reread - Voyager: chapters 27- 32

This week, only 4 chapters!

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In chapter 27, everything went Up in Flames- everyone's illusions about one another, their preconcieved notions and , of course, the printshop.

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''His eyes ... like a warm tropic sea'' - foreshadowing of tropic seas

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I adore Jamie and Claire's time at the tavern. From Devil take the barmaid to Let them watch. Later, in the room, Jamie's words about brute, blind with need show his self loathing. Does he refer to Laoghaire or Geneva?

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Why do you think Jamie chose to print seditious pamphlets? I see it as self sacrifiing gesture for benefit of people in general. It doesn't involve the safety of his family other than Fergus's. Do you think that is hy Jamie decided to include Fergus in it since he is an adult, with no wife and no family? Or it was a way to give Fergus job that he is able to do?

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Malcolm X part was hilarious, followed by Young Ian's conclusion about his father rutting with whores , or to be exact - Claire. I laugh every time! Claire and Young Ian have that instant bond which is great to read! Do you have a feeling that Claire is taken to Ian faster than to Fergus?

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Chapter 28 was ironically titled, Virtue's Guardian since Jamie is not exactly ''the guardian o' virtue'', not with his secret.

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A lot of mentioning of spiders which brings 'What a tangled web we weave...''quote in mind. I feel Jamie is doing just that. Weaves a web just like spiders weave two kinds of silk. Is it a metaphor for Jamie's various identities and making sure he leaves a safe way out ? ( door at the printshop, for example) . Jamie has many sticky stands.

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Is Jamie's penance for omitting truth as well?

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Smugglers rendezvous- So, there were two excisemen - one hanged the other to take money for himself OR somebody else did it? There are some thing that are always a bit unclear to me and I never have time to investigate them deeply. This scene is one of those.

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And finally, they all decide to go back to Lallybroch.

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Do you think it was fine to let Ian sleep with second Mary? Do you think that is what Young Ian truly needed?

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Margaret Campbell was one more victim of Culloden**. Does it represent what could have happened to Claire if she had stayed?**

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Share your thoughts!

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u/Nanchika — 23 days ago
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Gabaldon about Frank burning Claire's Clothes (lit forum)

This has been talked about here so many times. I appreciate her reasoning here, so I thought it interesting to share.

Well, you know....the show is the show.  Meaning that they will/did go for the most in-your-face blatant exposition of every dramatic moment.  Claire comes back in bad shape, confesses that she's been committing adultery in the 18th century, is pregnant by her lover  (and Frank knows that he's sterile), and then declares that she's still in love with the Other Man and doesn't mean to even pretend she isn't.

   O. K.   So, what's Frank going to do about this?  Well...his own principles won't let him abandon a pregnant woman with no resources (he says as much).  She's pregnant--which has got to drive him nuts--but he can't beat her up, or insist she give the kid up for adoption (he's a Catholic and wouldn't even consider abortion, even if he thought he could make her do it, which he almost certainly knows he can't...).

The worst thing he can think of to do to her (by way of retribution or revenge) is to deprive her of all remnants of her past life that might remind her of Jamie.  She really doesn't have anything (bar her wedding ring), save the clothes she was wearing.   Is he going to a) let her keep them in a chest, to be secretly taken out and smelled every now and then, seeking the trace of a scent of the Other Man? Or b) donate them to a museum (having carefully had the blood and semen cleaned off them) where Claire could go and languish over them privately, _and_ hordes of admiring visitors would be gushing over these traces of the Other Man, not knowing how Frank feels about them.

   

 So, no.   He's going to solve the problem by burning them--and doing so in front of Claire, who's in no position to protest this destruction of her precious relics.  Thus neatly causing her pain, and eliminating both the problem of his own feelings about them and the possibility of ongoing speculation--because museum historians don't just display the items they keep; they investigate and analyze and do research.  If he gave them to a reputable museum, they wouldn't just put them on dress-dummies behind glass--they'd be taking tiny snips from the seams and analyzing the fiber and the dye, comparing the patterns and the stitching to known specimens, trying to track them to a specific place, time, clan/family tartan, class association (i.e., she isn't wearing a peasant's clothes), etc.  If there are bloodstains (or semen stains), they'd be typing the blood, etc.  (I have, from time to time, been invited into the back rooms of a museum that has such materials, and the handling, processing and documentation go _way_ beyond "thorough", believe me.)   And, of course, they'd want to interview the person from whom Frank got these garments, in hopes of getting more information.

I don't know that whoever wrote the script for that episode thought it out in as much detail as this <g>, but they'd definitely go for the revenge angle; i.e., the only thing he can do that will truly hurt Claire (since she's already obviously written _him_ off) is take away as much as can of her precious memories--so he does.

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u/Nanchika — 1 month ago

Outlander Book Series Extra Long Reread - Voyager:chapters 21 - 27

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Claire is preparing to leave thrugh the stones. I love this part. It is full of anticipation and planning and contrasting emotions.

Do you think that Bree needed to see the deed of Lallroch to completely believe Claire?

I love the detail of a name of a dressmaker - Jessica Gutenburg - I see it as a nod to the way they found Jamie - in a printing shop

Quod Erat Demonstrandum - Thus it has been shown.

Due to Jamie's difficulty with pen he thought it impossible to write but he had been setting the lead type with great facility. Thus it has been shown that there was another way. There was another way to fight - not with the sword but with words.

Do you think Bree would have gone through if Claire hesitated?

A. Malcolm, Printer

Does the plastic film thrown equate future thrown in the wind? From Bees, we know the symbolism of this scene and I love that they added that conversation in that book.

I noticed ( as I am sure everybody else did) that Claire compares herself to other women - she has so many insecurities. It is such a human flaw and so understandable in that certain moment that I really love to see her vulnerabilities that make her more realistic character.

The reunion itself is beutiful, iconic moment for the entire book series and I love how their firstreal topic of conversation is Brianna and I love the scene where Jamie breaks down and cries in Claire's arms after seeing photos. The thought in my mind is always - It was worth it!

Did you like how they reunited? Or you needed it to be more fairy tale like? Was their reunion in the middle of chaos fine with you?

My nose is broken - echo of the beginning of the story where Jamie is on the Culloden field thinking about purgatory and broken nose.

There are so many echoes of the wedding night - can you find them?

Claire has so much guilt accumulated. My heart breaks when she sees the scar and says - I will never leave you again.

Old Ian alludes that he doesn't know Jamie any more, how could Claire? Do you think he exaggerated or he was simply under huge stress because of Young Ian?

One more face from the past is Fergus who dropped on his knees , just like Caire did to Jamie's scar.

Here we drop in the middle of Jamie's chaotic life with excisemens, fiends, smugglers and other dangerous people around. We are like Claire - totally oblivious what constitutes Jamie's life those days and I found it interesting how Jamie appears as a cornered rat( guilty conscience?) in that cellar.

Do you think Jamie was right to hide the fact that Young Ianis in Edinburgh from Old Ian?

How did you percieve Jamie based on Madame Jean's lines when talking to Claire during the breakfast? She was very distressed.

Share your thoughts about all of it, freely!

u/Nanchika — 1 month ago

World Outlander Day Excerpt

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And we'll end with Thanks and Good Wishes to all of you (!), and a snippet from A BLESSING FOR A WARRIOR GOING OUT:

He walked through the town, downhill, up and then down again, to come out near the bay. That would do. Little as he liked being _on_ water, being next to it was often soothing. Confirmed landsman that he was, he could still find a quiet sense of himself in the regular sound of water coming and going about its business.

“So long as I needn’t be on a [Gaelic equivalent of “f*cking”] boat,” he muttered, and made his way halfway down the slope to find a patch of grass and weeds that didn’t look like poison ivy in which he could lie down and have a wee chat with God.

Love,

--Diana

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u/Nanchika — 1 month ago
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The Beginning of the Prologue

Diana posted this on lit forum today! Beginning of the prologue.

She also said that: In BLESSING, though, the Epilogue (yes, there is one, and a Prologue to match <g>) is there for Closure.

PROLOGUE
 
I, Claire…  I hesitated.  Who, exactly, was I?  In terms of a legal name, at least; anything more metaphysical would have to wait.  I sighed, dipped the quill again and wrote, “Beauchamp Fraser”.  

I thought best to include Beauchamp; as Jamie had said on more than one occasion, there were a lot of men named James Fraser, and even more plain Frasers.  I didn’t want to be confused with any of them. 

“Luckily we can skip all the Randalls and Greys,” I murmured to myself.  “Claire Elizabeth—damn, forgot the Elizabeth!”  I reached for a fresh sheet of paper, muttering “Claire Elizabeth Beauchamp Randall Fraser Randall Fraser Grey Fraser…bloody hell, that’s a lot of husbands…”

Five minutes to accomplish the task of writing my own name.  I thought this might be a sign that perhaps I wasn’t ready to write my will.

“Well, who is?” I muttered, and glanced at the clock, then back at the paper before me.  “Right,” I said, addressing it.  “You get ten minutes of my life and then we stop for today.  That’s all I can stand.”

I, Claire Elizabeth Beauchamp Fraser, being of sound mind, do declare that this is my Last Will and Testament.

“Your testament is you sayin’ who ye are and what ye own,” Jamie had told me, when I’d wondered aloud about the phrase.  “The Will part is what ye mean to do with what ye own.”

What did I own?  What did I have to leave?

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u/Nanchika — 1 month ago

Outlander Book Series Extra Long Reread - Voyager : Part Three (chapters 7- 13)

When I am Thy Captive

We start this week in Inverness on May 25th , 1968.

Claire remembers Frank supporting her profession. How did you take that support. Did he do it honestly or Frank supported Claire not because she was meant to do it, not because she was awesome,but because ''it will cause less damage to Brianna''? He points out the book on Revolutionary War and I wonder if he found Claire's name there.

Meanwhile, Jamie is at Ardsmuir Prison in Scotland on February 15th, 1755.

Honor's Prisoner- John - prisoner of his honor - he is stuck at Ardsmuir for doing something dishonorable. Jamie is a prisoner, he gave himself up, but he is still an honorable man.

''Ardsmuir is the carbuncle on God's bum'' - answer to Claire's question from the end of the previous chapter.

What happened at Carryarrick Pass is an important event in Lord John's life and military career. He was mortally embarrassed and almost 10 years later the event sticks in his gut . He despises Claire for her role and he is thrilled at the idea of seeking revenge on Jamie Fraser until he realizes that honor's duty lies between them. Their roles won't allow Lord John tove his personal revenge. Lord John is bound and held prisoner to his code of honor.

Claire plays a double part. She may have been the reason Jamie spared his life. Claire was also the reason why LJ remained spying on the camp awaiting for a moment in which to rescue an English lady.

What was your initial impression about John? Did he seem creepy not?

Duncan Kerr escaped to France - did he meet Geilis there? From ''Past Prologue'' we know who put this reasure and how. Kerr gave direction of treasure as a code for Jamie. He passed the information and died.

''She will come for you'' can have a double meaning here. It can mean Geilis will come for Ian who is , after all, a MacKenzie descendant, or it can refer to Claire who will come for both of them - John and Jamie.

Grey picked one of the chessmen - John is playing with a pawn but Jamie's ''I swallowed it'' is a true check mate.

John and Jamie's trust is built on belief in one another's honour. They are matched intellectually,but like in a chess game, John is searching for Jamie's weaknesses.

What is your view of John and Jamie's relatonship at this point?

The Torremolinos Gambit is a daring move with a lot of risks. Just like John's move on Jamie is daring and risky. What did you think of it?

''Your brother was right'' - Jamie will grieve Claire forever and he will hope, as well, because he hadn't seen her dead. (I love that line)

Why did Jamie take the blame about tartan and sacrificed himself?

He is reassearting the distance

He is gaining prisoners' respect. He was considered priviledged. He escaped and he was unpunished. In his head, he knows he was priviledged because of John's lust.

He escaped and left his men while he went to see the gold.

He wants to hurt John because John would need to watch the body he wants being flogged. Jamie feels that he gets special treatment from LJ not because of his leadership of the men, but realizes it is because of his lust for Jamie's body.

It is interesting that Jamie never notices John's physical appearance, while John notices everything.

Jamie severed all the connections and he mentioned the temptation on many levels: of John's company and to consider John a friend.John and Jamie have great commonality - education, inteligence and humor. But, John is sexualy attracted to Jamie who is disgusted by it due to his trauma and cultural context.

Midgame is chess term and Roger,Bree and Claire are halfway through the number of years that passed in Jamie's life.

Tell me your opinion of Ardsmuir chapters - Jamie, John, the two of them, other prisoners ( did you catch some familiar names) , the gold / treasure etc...

u/Nanchika — 1 month ago

Outlander Series Extra Long Reread - Voyager: Chapters 1-6

A bit late, but since it was finale, it is understandable!

The first Voyager reread post! We will start with theme and shape.

Theme: Identity

Voyager has a lot of adventure, changing of times and places, seeking of destiny, and so on—but the underlying theme is that of a person’s search for identity and how they define themselves, in their own eyes, or those of another, or those of society at large. By marriage, by career, by calling—or by recognition of one’s own essential being. You see this worked out most noticeably (of course) in Claire’s and Jamie’s story, first as she seeks the husband she’s lost and longed for, and then as they look for safe landing and a place in which they can survive together.

The continuing metaphor lies in their names until Jamie finally reclaims and restates his identity, when he introduces himself to a rescuer: “My name is Jamie Fraser…. And this is Claire…My wife.”

Shape: Voyager is shaped like a braided horsetail. It has a triple narrative through the first third of the book, with Jamie’s, Claire’s, and Roger’s voices taking turns, then falls into a simple linear narrative in Claire’s voice through the second two-thirds of the story. Jamie is telling his story forward as it happens, Claire is telling her story backward (to Roger and Brianna), and Roger’s story is set in the present moment and provides a turning point to switch between Jamie’s and Claire’s.

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Culloden...

''He was dead.'' - Incipt, the first line of a book. Imagery of death and purgatory. But aside from that, this incipit has an enormous amout of foreshadowing of the story to come.

**This is what Jamie says was his purgatory**. (in Bees)

Here the issue of death and purgatory lead us into the fact that even though Jamie was saved against his will, the next several years become for him a sort of living death between the cave and the prison. One really could not say that he lived during those years. And the purgatory that he anticipates until he is reunited with Claire, really does happen since he is eventually reunited but only after waiting 20 years alone. So this incipit does in fact tell us a lot about the story to come.

Jamie has lighthearted discussion with himself about physical pain until he remembers - ''Claire'' and then all pains faded.

It is actually interesting that Jack Randall saves Jamie from bleeding to death.

Crow- war goddess of the Celt aspect. Calling of the crows is common motif.

The last line - ''and still alive.'' - contrast to the first line.

In Chapter 3 , Frank and Full Disclosure this word Frank can be interpreted as being completely honest about what happenned but also it can be the character of Frank and full disclosure of him.

Perpetual Adoration - parallel to Claire's time at Abbey. She needed to let Jamie go in peace, to allow herself forgiveness for what she caused Frank.

St Anthony - saint of poor, sailors, fishermen and travelers. (foreshadowing of eir adventures on the sea)

Nursery scene is another of those scenes that are often mentioned among the readers. Gabaldon explained it as: exchange of tenderness. Two small branches of mutual compassion extended over a big void. It is not sexual, it is sensual. Frank sees Claire's frustration and the breast thing is the only thing he can do something about. It's a moment of peace for her and she is grateful. Building foundation for a family - it is house bulit on the cobwebs. There is a theme of tragedy and loss - Claire's pain is so overfull and Frank recognizes he can ease it in a way she couldn't offer to him.

Frank picks up the pieces of their lives back together - he accepts Brianna fully as his own. Claire knows and appreciates it but she came back by necessity, in love with Jamie. They make repeated efforts, but her betrayal is always there. Frank can't and won't admit the truth of the story, they can never discuss it fully and resolve it. Jamie's ghost is always there. The love they had for each other is still there, supported by their united feelings for Brianna. Yes, their love is diminished and erroded by the memory of their betrayals but it is still a kind of pillar. Pillar which is twisted and shaped by the wind and rain, but still there.

Do you agree with her? Or do you still find it weird?

In Chapter 4, we are back to Lallybroch where Jamie is the Dunbonnet. He continues to contribute to his family and tenants. Without that, his life would be impossible - purposeless.

Stag Hunting is one of those scenes which I need to explore a bit for my next reread. For now, I can see resemblance to a Catholic Communion ( physically accepting Christ so you become part of him) . Jamie drank the stag's blood and took the deer's soul into himself and became one with him and the forest ? There is respect towards the stag whose essence is transferred to the man in need. Gratitude.

Do you have more thoughts about this?

Errata for chapter 5 : Mrs Coker = Mrs Crook

Jamie's two mistakes in this chapter were innocent and meant well but could have been fatal. He shoots the crow and he admires Young Ian and takes him. Luckily, all was well. The imagery of Jenny with new grey streaks of hair is very powerful.

The title of the last chapter for this week ( '' Being Now Justified By His Blood'') is puzzling for me. Is Jamie being justified by Fergus's blood - justified in trading himself for his family's safety? Or is it Fergus being justified in his role of adopted son by the loss of his blood on Jamie's behalf? Does Fergus feel guilt for Jamie's duel with Randall?

Jamie was reeling from child being nearly killed (Fergus) , parallel to Claire reeling after Bree was hit by the car.

Mary MacNab - does she also feel guilt because of what Ronald did to Jamie ?

Share any of the thoughts about these chapters if you wish! Culloden, Dunbonnet, Claire and Frank after her return, Mary MacNab, Fergus... Discuss whatever you want!

u/Nanchika — 2 months ago

Outlander Series Extra Long Reread - Dragonfly in Amber: Chapter 45 - end

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Damn All Randalls!

Many people wondered about Frank not finding any records about Randall and Mary's wedding, but Gabaldon explainedthat it was private ceremony so there were no official records of witnesses.

This chapter was the start of Jamie's process of forgiveness. Jamie remembered his own loss of his brother and fhe feeling of being lost and alone.

Jamie is moved to compassion for Mary and Alex, but for Jack, too. His own burden of rage has eased a little. That is whee he begins to realize that his only way of recovering forgiving BJR. He's already done vengeful violenceto BJR - he only acted on the urge to kill him. Consequences to that were disasterous. It wasn't satisfactory but it was disasterous. Jamie sees Jack as he'd never seen before and he is shocked by his own empathy. Because of Jamie's ability to identify with Jack begins his process of forgiveness.

Do you think it was normal that Jamie behaved so nicely to Jack? Do you think Jamie should have been so comforting taking him outside? Did he do it to make sure Mary was safe or to allow Mary to say goodbye to Alex?

And at the end of this chapter we have the famous 'Damn All Randalls' speech when compassion and anger wll up together. The difficulties of sharing Claire's past and future come full circle. Claire had a choice, Frank didn't and that is why Jamie tolerates him so much.

Chapter 46, Timor Mortis Conturbat Me (Fear of death disturbs me)

The saddest and the most heartbreaking chapter EVER!

First, Claire sees the dead HIghland soldier and everything after that is about death. His tartan blended with the leaves is it foreshadowing of plaids disappearing from the Highlands.

Dougal dies. What did you think about him at the end?

Murtagh and Fergus show loyalty and bravery. I love Murtagh's line that It is better to die on Culloden killing the English, to have clean and honourable death, than to be killed by your own cousins.

Jamie, just like with Fergus, gives Claire a job to do and a purpose to leave that she cannot argue with, once again well done DG for providing us with just about the only reason she would ever leave Jamie for and the presence of the english soldiers at that moment made it easier for her not to second-guess the decision.  

My heart breaks every time I read this. I never cried so much over a book. Claire's thought about her heart breaking is so appropriate. 💔

The final chapters of the book take us back to 1968. I love this part of the story. I love the witch hunt, Roger and Claire working as a team and Brianna finally accepting the truth.

But,Brianna's reaction. I understand it. When Bree finds out the truth about Jamie it is the second loss of the only daddy she knows. She's lost him to death and now he isn't even hers. Fine line between pain and rage ( rage is easier to deal with). She is mad to a lot more than her mother. Her whole identity is upended because neither of her parents is who she thought they were. It all happens in the middle of a grief for her father. To abandon Frank's memory and embrace wife- stealing adulterer whom they are telling she is just like.

One of the very controversial scenes was when Claire says to Bree that she hated her. Anyone whose unexpected pregnancy disrupted person's life can identify with the resentment and later, love. Claire didn't mean to hurt Bree, she wanted to explain the depth of her feelings to give sense of a father who would never see her but loved her powerfully enough to give up the only anchor of his life.

I am so glad it was Bree who saved Roger from the effects of the stones.

And finally, Claire finds out that Jamie survived Culloden.

So, the end of book 2 came. There was definitely rule of three in DiA : 3 orphans - Roger, Claire and Bree are looking for a family and home. They start from different places but they end up in different emotional places. The 3 of them share ability to TT, but we don't know it until the end of the book.

A lot of things happen in these few chapters. How did you survive their separation? What do you think about 20th century chapters and ''witch hunt''?

How do you rate Dragonfly in Amber? Is it on top of your Outlander books list?

u/Nanchika — 2 months ago

I was chatting with my friend and we were talking about one scene which we both really love and know it is not favourite among the fans. (Dragonfly in Amber- Jamie and Claire's quick sex before she rushes into the stones - One more time. I must! ) and that made me wonder - Do you have books/ show scenes that you know are not popular and you simply love them?

Let us hear your confessions 😆

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u/Nanchika — 2 months ago

(From A BLESSING FOR A WARRIOR GOING OUT, copyright Diana Gabaldon,2026)

(a brief snip from a conversation between Claire and Jamie)

“Well, you saw the way she looked at him, didn’t you?”

“Was he lookin’ back?”

“He was.”

“Mmphm.”  He reached for the whisky and poured two drams, pushing one toward her.  “Aye, well—we’ll be away in two days—maybe three, at most.”  He tapped the list he’d been making. “I dinna think she can seduce him before then.”

Claire gave him one of her looks, and he grinned at her.

“Well, it didna take you more than ten minutes, aye?”

“Ten minutes?”

“Aye.  I was hurtin’ so badly when I met ye, I couldna see straight—but when ye put my shoulder right and I saw ye plain--and then ye sat in my lap for hours, wi’ my cock up against your bum….”

“We were on a horse!”

“And my cock and your bum were along for the ride, no?”

“How much of that whisky have you had?” she demanded, taking the glass from his hand, and glancing over her shoulder to be sure no one had heard him.

“Not enough,” he said, but reluctantly corked the bottle

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u/Nanchika — 2 months ago

Outlander Series Extra Long Reread- Dragonfly in Amber:chapters 41 - 45

Only 4 chapters this week!

At the start, Frasers are still at Beauly ( actually they were there for 2 whole months!). Claire meets Maisri, the seer and It is a good thing that Claire talked to Maisri - she could reconcile her knowledge of the future and have a bit of hope that future can be changed.

Again, before time traveling, her future is predicted ( just like Mrs Graham's palm reading). She will be alone. Without Jamie?

There were some funny lines in this chapter (unlike the rest of them ) , especially about Old Fox and his prostatitis.

In chapter 42, there were many reunions - Lallybroch men, Fergus,Mary, BJR, Alex, Simon, Cameron, Jamie and Dougal.

Sometimes, I forget some info like Claire selling her pearls: She put aside her personal goods and safety to tend to the needs of the men. She is a wife of a laird. Her determination and care is proven again, in the 20th century when Roger looked for them.

I loved Claire's line - ''A lifetime isn't enough for that kind of love'' - (foreshadowing?) and I loved Claire taking the men to Jamie!

Falkirk battle happened on 17th January 1746

Piper - VIsion of piper, alone, far away is similar to Maisri's vision of Claire

Jamie and Dougal's dynamics is very intresting to me because they don't trust each other in terms of the politics , but they do trust each other to fight together against the English ( shared enemy) and as Scots on the side of BPC they are clearly on the same side at this moment.

In chapter 44 in Which Quite a Lot of Things Gang Agley we meet Duke of Sandringham who, until his death , didn't reveal his true colours. From what he told Claire, he may have been a Jacobite, but who knows?

Death of Hugh Munro was devastating and tragic because of Jamie's promise to Hugh's widow whom we never again see nor hear about. I understand Jamie wasn't in any position tohelp her, but his promise sounds weak, knowing what will come.

Did you like Jamie and Claire's stay at Beauly? Old Fox? Young Fox? Maisri? Dougal and Jamie? Duke?

Feel free to write about intersting stuff from this part of the book. Next week, I am finishing with Dragonfly!

u/Nanchika — 2 months ago