r/Outlander

Hi there! I don't watch the show but I'd like some help from you Outlanders. My wife loves the show, and she's been hinting that she'd like Claire's wedding ring for her birthday. I found it for sale in a small workshop (https://macielatelie.com.br/loja/aneis/aliancas/anel-outlander/) here in my country, but they offer three types of ring: Polished (Polida), rustic (Rústica) and hammered (Martelada).

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By the pictures I find I can't tell which versions looks more alike the one in the show. Can someone help a lost husband who's trying to make his wife happy?

Thanks in advance!

P.S.: I chose season one flair because google tells me that's when the wedding happened. Sorry if I'm wrong

Hi there! I’ve been sucked into the Outlander universe and have finished the first 3 seasons over the last 2 months. Such an amazing show.

No spoilers please, but I’m a little worried about season 4. I’m already on ep 4 and it just feels so slow and dull compared to season 3 (which I absolutely loved). It’s also weirdly the first time I’ve gotten annoyed at Claire and found her and Jamie’s actions a little dumb.. smuggling a wanted man past redcoats (when Jamie is FINALLY a free man), the entire debacle at his aunt’s estate (understandably a horrible situation, but I still think it was handled poorly), Claire wandering off by herself in a thunderstorm. Just ugh.

This could probably be a post in itself but the scenes with Bri are hard for me to watch as well. Her acting and accent are awful and really take me out of it :/

Please tell me it gets better!! I’ve fallen in love with this show and am hoping things will turn around.

I know in the books neither Jenny nor Jamie (which I still find implausible) knew that Laoghaire was the reason Claire was tried as a witch, but still, her entire argument about why she pushed Jamie to marry Laoghaire was full of holes.

Jenny kept emphasizing that if Jamie were married to Laoghaire, he'd stay home, while if married to Claire, he'd leave? Why would she think that? Any previous traveling Jamie & Claire did during their marriage was to France cause Jamie HAD to leave the country. That was on Jamie, not on Claire. And when they returned, before being so rudely interrupted, Jamie told Claire they could farm some land at Lallybrooch, and her only objection was Jenny's newfound hatred of her.

Her other point was that "Jamie's not the kind of man who should sleep alone." WTF? The man was a virgin until 23, married Claire, sent her away, lived in a cave for 7 years & had sex once (which he didn't initiate), then goes to prison, gets paroled, is forced to have sex once and then leaves. How many years was that? 7?

So in 18 years, the man had sex twice, neither of which he initiated. Laoghaire was forced upon him, so in his entire life, the only person he really wanted to have sex with was Claire, showing that he indeed was the kind of man who could sleep alone.

Having a little vent here, but it's a fair complaint of a lot of people that Outlander leaving Scotland removed a bit of the show's appeal and character. However whenever this gets raised, there is a frequent response;

"After Culloden, there was nothing left for Jamie and Claire".

I find this quite a frustrating response, and a response almost certainly coming from people that aren't Scottish.

Sure, there was a percentage of Scots that moved to other countries following the Battle of Culloden, but that only represented around 6-12% of the country. Highlanders gradually made their way towards central Scotland, which isn't an uncharted area in Outlander either.

There is an argument that Scotland entered a state of terror, and Jamie and Claire would have to leave. Not only does that not really fit with the actual show, as they didn't leave for that reason, but they left Scotland where there was a brutal ongoing fight and suppression by the British to stay in America....where there was a brutal ongoing fight and suppression by the British.

We could have easily seen periods of Outlander cover the fallout of Culloden, the Highland clearances and the heartbreak at how the clans and every day attire get ripped apart. We could have seen Scotland began to rebuild itself in the central belt, with the Scottish industrial revolution taking place in Glasgow, or the Scottish Enlightenment taking place in Edinburgh with the rise of science and philosophy.

My vent is over the, probably American view, that you had to leave Scotland during that time and the show naturally had to go that way. Scotland didn't cease to exist following Culloden. We may have had our culture stripped away from us, but it could also be argued that Scotland has never flourished more than this period, and right after the events of Outlander is when a lot of the restrictions on Scots were repealed, so clearly there was still a cultural fight going on during this period.

It's fine for the writer to make their own decision and for anyone to have their own path, but Scotland didn't stop being Scotland after the Battle of Culloden, and the idea that there was "nothing left" after that battle and that you had to emmigrate to USA to find "something" is just massively incorrect.

i made a post a few weeks ago talking about how i really disliked roger for his entire talk about virginity with bri and the way he acted after they first sleep together. my distaste for the character only grew bigger during S4 & S5. him having trouble with associating (while still doing very good), then him not talking to bri anymore for 3 months after his hanging accident, wanting to go back home etc...

(btw, i'm not judging his character as what he lived was highly traumatic and i could not judge a coping and defense mechanism. also, him being in another time when that's not what he really chose either. it was just hard for me to see growth in his character as he is put in difficult situations.)

all that said, everything changed when he started talking again and the end of S5 when he says he was thinking about "home" while going through the stones. i'm on S6 now and i really love his character. seeing the growth in relationship with brianna, stepping up as a real family member etc...

therefore, I am leaving the roger hate club from now on.

I thought I finished season 7 on Netflix with episode 8, because it's the last episode they offer and it felt like a season finale. Went online to see if there was a season 8, found there was, and subscribed to Starz to watch it only to discover that season 7 apparently has 16 total episodes.

So just a friendly PSA to other Netflix viewers that for whatever reasons unbeknownst to me there are in fact an additional 8 episodes of season 7.

Oh yeah, and also, WTF Netflix? I'm assuming it's some sort of wacky outcome of how media licensing contracts work so I'll give the benefit of doubt, but it was annoying to see several recap spoilers before I realized the mix-up.

I have re-watched season 8. I noticed in a scene from episode 3 what Claire said to Jaime after Claire brought to life the second twin she delivered. "That it (blue light) felt familiar when she was in Paris after the birth of Faith. When she was ill". I questioned myself. Did she start the process of healing Faith and not finish the transformation because they've taken Faith away?

Something is not adding up. When she mourned Jaime when he died on King's Mountain she completed the healing process because she had more time. Same for the second twin. She took her time to transfer her healing power.

I don’t know where to start, I’ve been hiding from this subreddit since season 8B began, apart from one post about the Outlander gallery and auction in London last week that managed to slink onto my homepage. I’ve been very very well behaved in not looking at this sub while I drip fed myself the second half of 8. Side note, in fact, this is one of the handful of series I’ve watched all the way through where I haven’t sneaked a peek at the related Wikipedia page or subreddit to find an answer to a question which spoils the future plot for me.

I think that’s why I was so anxious to get to the finale, as soon as the trailer came out earlier this year for the home stretch of episodes and I heard Jamie’s voiceover about Kings Mountain, iirc it made me dread the inevitability of the seasons end. All I could hope for the TV storyline finale was that they did the Outlander universe that Gabaldon had mothered, a good level of justice. But I didn’t want Jamie nor Claire to perish as a result, I don’t know what I wanted in totality, I knew a cookie cutter ending wasn’t plausible but jf by chance it was one of those it would have numbed the pain of the story ending, but it wouldn’t have been Outlander for me and I know it would have felt out of place. I also didn’t want to watch Claire’s world smash into a million tiny pieces if Jamie died in battle, they’d skirted death each so many times and they never truly knew retirement and their golden years together, they’d earned the right as characters to live out the rest of their days on the porch in the back country on hand carved rocking chairs reading books and watching their family grow around them.

I eventually made peace with my racing mind that if it was a Sopranos style ending I’d be content with that, given the circumstances of the story, world building and historical period which the story is set in. I’m mostly a realist, I like historic correctness in period dramas but I’m also wildly spiritual so the realisation this season that Claire and that pesky little oink Master Raymond possessed healing abilities made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside (my late Nana IRL was a deeply spiritual woman, sat in healing circles but was rugged in her upbringing in the countryside of the north of England , so I do believe there are things in life that cannot be explained by science, science only goes so far then comes god etc).

So last night comes along and I give my partner the nod about 9.30pm that signals ‘I’m ready, let’s finish this’—- it took me a week to get to this point. I really had drip fed 8B to myself episode by episode sometimes leaving a week or 10 days between viewings.

I cried at the intro, obviously, then the voiceover of James Frazers last will and testament, made me cry more. Jamie and Claire’s conversation about the bees and feets was wholesome, cried a bit more there. I managed to settle down mid way through, then came the battle, my heart pounded non stop as I watched the militia men carry out the techniques and formations they’d been learning a few episodes previous. Loved the setting of the uphill rugged battle, historically accurate and somewhat brutal. When the wind was howling and the British were all but declaring defeat, and Jamie survived, I paid close attention to the weather and didn’t let myself be happy just yet, it felt eerie. I shouted at the screen ‘Claire don’t go back down that mountain’ . The gun shot, the heart ache Claire instantly felt, Jamie’s men losing their shit at Ferguson as target practice and an axe sharpener (Ian), the bowing before their clan leaders lifeless body, the emotions on their faces, Claire refusing to leave his side, the cut scenes the day lapses, the night sky, the begging to a higher power by Claire to help bring him back.

The forget me nots!! The bloody forget me nots!! The man standing by that monument on a cold rainy Inverness evening.. it was always him as we all may have come to suspect.

When I saw the flapping wings in the montage of their journey in love together, I stopped weeping, took a deep breath and said ‘oh please please please’. I had hope again. Cut to Claire lying on that grassy mountain meadow, her hair grayed once more, I knew, she’d became wise, but also… Jamie gasped in time with Claire eyes just opening— And scene fades to black!

I got my Sopranos ending, and now it’s over I feel empty, I feel like when you get back from a holiday and you get the holiday blues, you feel lost, empty, without purpose.

This was one of the best watches of my life, the good, the bad, the boring, the sad, the traumatic, the anxiety… all of it was a masterpiece.

I now plan to read the books (well, listen to them)
I don’t think I’ll be able to rewatch the entire series just yet, I might never do that, I never rewatched Six Feet Under because that was tied up in a realistic yet traumatic little bow for me too in its ending. Outlander wasn’t quite the same in its own, but I feel like I can close the book so to speak on the tv series and imagine that Claire helped Jamie down off that mountain top, and took him home, to finally enjoy retirement.

It’s been a journey guys. I’m not fussed if anybody reads or replies to this post, I just wanted to get my feelings out.

Slanja

Just finished the entire show and I'm still feeling upset with some of the (almost out of character) choices that Mr James Alexander Malcom Mackenzie Frazer made. I feel these choices kinda assassinated his character.

1. I simply cannot get over him marrying Laoghaire knowing that she tried to have his first wife violently killed. I know she "found god" or whatever but it feels like a serious betrayal towards Claire at every angle.
   Tbh if I was Claire I would have went straight through those stones home if I found that out.

2. Him beating LJG and letting the Continental Army take him as prisoner after LJG saved Claire's life. Why would he do that to the father of his son? He was really about to let William go fatherless over a misunderstanding he chose not to understand. Without his plot armour LJG could have easily been killed.

If you want to give book spoilers in the comments that explain some of these choices go ahead so I can have further context.

Omg! Finally, I finished the finale episode. Please, what just happened in the last part?! I can’t move on in this series. I’m crying!

Rewatching the series again and I was thinking that Jamie kissed Laoghaire in season 1 to make Claire jealous.

Thoughts?

I just finished season one, and I just don’t know if this is my type of show. I love historical fantasy, and the beginning of the season I was hooked. But toward the end I was finding it hard to go to next episode. Does it get better? Or if I don’t like season one, I’ll probably not like the rest? Does they actually leave Scotland for good lol? I loved that it took place in Scotland, I’m so sad they are heading to France.

Newbie here! My Mister and I started watching this series and we are almost to the end of season four. We both agree that even though we can’t stop watching it these people are so frustrating and exhausting. They just go from one calamity to the next making terrible decisions. Are we in the minority here? 😂

Hmm. I've glanced through recent posts since the series finale. I'm entirely new to the show, binged it with a free Starz trial (but couldn't quite finish it before the first fee set in, and given the quality of the writing, music and acting, I don't really feel bad about them getting those residuals).

To be honest, I'm not generally given to watching 'popular' shows, least of all ones that are produced for American(ish) networks. I primarily watch British, French, Danish and Canadian content that most fellow Americans have barely heard of, if they have at all. But I am a time travel fan so I knew sooner or later I'd get around to this one, and I don't regret waiting until I could binge it in a spree. Looking at the IMDb page and seeing how it was impacted by Covid and the Strikes (capital S for those of us in LA, IYKYK), I can only imagine how dedicated fans felt waiting for the next season to drop.

But now that I've found myself here and finished the show, I'm curious about some things I guess I could google, but reddit being reddit I'd be more curious to hear them from you.

a) How faithfully did you feel the show matched the intent and direction of the original author's work? My sister read a bit of Diana's work and said a lot of the grit was already there. But I've also heard the books were published in the 90s after excerpts were posted in online forums, so...as a writer I'm admittedly curious how something of this caliber sat on shelves so long before being picked up for TV development. Forgive any basic ignorance of the development path or timeline, I'd truly heard so little about the show other than time travel/Scotland, I think I thought some of the posters were Sean Astin instead of Sam Heughan, who I only knew from the Spy Who Dumped Me.

b) The impression I get is fans of the main show are reluctant to watch the spinoff. Is this just the meh of having to get to know new characters despite knowing their ancestors, or down to something else? (I saw a few remarks about Ron not really giving the actors flex on scenes with nudity, and as an actor myself who has worked on sets with even Sensitivity Coordinators during violent protest scenes, I struggle to understand how a show of this nature didn't have an intimacy coordinator from the get go.)

c) I acknowledge another reason I waited to watch was because I'd heard of the intense abuse Jamie's character faced, and while I'm very pleased to see media admit men are also abused and delve into the important tangents and discussions related to that, I knew I needed to be in the right mood to watch it. I'm glad I waited, but also - and this may sound very odd to some of you based on a few passing remarks I saw here - I was relieved to find those scenes were not as rough as I thought they may be. To explain, I didn't realize they happened so early in season 1, I was glad he was at least married and no longer a virgin by then, that it wasn't his first encounter of any related kind, and that he more or less knew she would be there to support him after. Not saying that makes any of it "easier", but what scant details I'd heard made it sound ...I don't know, more like 300 or Spartacus, if that comparison makes any sense. It was still bloody and gratuitous, no doubt. But it wasn't a gang (for him, anyway), which I suppose I may have assumed it was, all things considered. While the psychological aspects are no less grueling, a healthy relationship before and after can heal those wounds more fully, and I found salve in their bookending it that way.

d) I haven't seen any of the interviews or articles, though I see a few of you have mentioned favorites here. Being LA based, my instinct now that I've finished the show is perhaps to watch the PaleyFest panel, but if there are standout clips you'd recommend, I'd trust your opinions over popular search results. I noticed some of you mentioned Sam wrote a book also, for instance, that was quite honest and revealed the reality we all face on set of being buried by the work. I'd also appreciate hearing which of the cast and writers other work you've enjoyed; I love going down a new-to-me actor/ress's IMDb catalog and watching their work back to back to fully appreciate the oeuvre of it. My TBR is also perpetually long, so - I'd love to hone in on the creme of the crop.

e) More unique to me perhaps, but maybe not as rare as it may seem at first blush: this show in particular, more than some others I've watched of late in British and Canadian realms, really made me miss set. Like many, I've stepped away from the more public parts of the industry while the ship rights itself, but ...I used to work predominantly on period pieces, historical dramas. It's just my type, and my appreciation of history and time travel lent me well to the work and keeping things true to the era. It was a time travel all its own. With the advent of AI, present studio mergers and the development pipeline grinding to a halt in a number of ways, watching a show like this makes me simultaneously hopeful and sad in almost equal measure: because I know for the most part a show of this nature would not be greenlit today, even with the book following. It would need a million followers on socials, and that audience gets more and more reductive and narrow by the day, less critical thinking, more lowest common denominator (the stories, not the people, should there be any doubt). I have so many industry friends shifting to verticals and interactive because that's where the work is right now, like the reality show boom in the 90s and oughts. But this show makes me a little mournful, because while the optimist in me wants to believe ensemble casts like this will continue to create and thrive somehow, the realist in me just doesn't see how. Not with the current studio heads, the current economic climate. I keep hoping we'll be the phoenix rising from the ashes eventually, the way we have after every other season of strikes, but...I don't know. It hurts my heart for this cast, because all of them deserve to land another few shows with this gravitas, and through absolutely no fault or lack of skill and interest of their own, they might not. And that's a loss.

Anyway. Those were my main questions and thoughts, joining this party so late. I wrote a couple fics for this show recently too, so to ensure I did them justice I just wanted to get my bearings. Apologies if these questions or ideas have been shared a million times over the years in this forum, forgive my being the newer Sassenach here who's still green.

I’m curious if anyone else has had their Davina Porter narrated copies of A Breath of Snow and Ashes, An Echo in the Bone, and Written in My Own Hearts Blood disappear from their audible libraries AND purchase histories.

It seems titles being difficult to find but ultimately still in one’s purchase history has been a common occurrence with audible but disappearing entirely like this less so.

I know I bought these books. I’ve listened to them several times over. And yet they’re gone?

I know they’re adding the new narrations so I can imagine something got goofed somewhere but I was wondering if it was just a me problem.

I’ve watched Outlander earlier this year and I am currently at Season 5, but already watched season 1 like 3 times! So I decided out of curiosity to read a few scenes I’ve found interesting and compare them to the book. And I did, which lead me to be half way through in Book 1. But one thing I’ve noticed was as I was reading the book my view and feelings towards Jamie’s character in the book were not the same as Jamie in the show, which is odd! Because his character on TV is basically the same as the book but almost sugar-coated! In the book he’s almost more in touch with his masculine side while still managing to be thoughtful and affectionate (even behind closed doors), but TV Jamie I feel was more on the affectionate side all around with an easier projection of his masculine side, it was effortless! In the book it’s quite the opposite, which I found very interesting and almost dissatisfactory, the same with Claire, in the show she’s fierce and always of an opinion, but in the book it’s almost subtle… which was kind of disappointing. Am the only one who felt this contradiction?