u/NefariousnessBig4436

Not talking about one weird fare search. I mean routes where the cheap carrier used to make the whole trip possible, then the schedule gets cut or the fare is suddenly close to Delta/United anyway.

When that happens, what do you actually do?

- nearby airport

- different dates

- bus/train/drive

- wait for a sale

- skip the trip

I've caught myself doing the math and realizing the "cheap" flight isn't cheap enough to justify the rest of the trip anymore.

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but Spirit's situation feels bigger than just “lol Spirit.”

People clown them, but in some airports they were the cheap option that made every other fare look bad. If that pressure goes away, do prices actually move up, or do other airlines fill the seats fast enough that nothing really changes?

I'm not saying fuel alone did it. Just seems like fuel + thin margins + fees is a brutal combo.

For people who actually fly Spirit: what do you think changes first — fares, routes, bags/fees, or summer trip plans?

Roman army medical corps achieved an amputation survival rate around 80 percent. Civil War surgeons in 1862 were watching 75 percent of their amputees die. The Roman army was 1700 years ahead, and most of the Roman recipe was preserved continuously in Greek and Latin medical literature.

Three things they did right:

Vinegar washes — wine and vinegar poured over wounds before suturing. Acetic acid kills Staphylococcus aureus, which is what killed 19th-century battlefield amputees. Galen wrote about it. Celsus wrote about it. Sixteen centuries of published recipe.

Tourniquets that worked. The Roman fasciae was a tightened cloth band placed above the amputation site — same physics modern military tourniquets use. By the 17th century French military surgeons had decided tourniquets were dangerous and stopped using them. They were wrong. Roman doctors knew it. We forgot.

The capsarius. Every Roman cohort had one — a battlefield medic who carried the leather kit and reached the wounded man before he bled out. Trained on triage and hemorrhage control. The U.S. Army combat-medic doctrine from 1942 is the capsarius recipe with different equipment.

Why was it lost? Roman medical knowledge ran on three institutional networks: the army medical corps, the gladiator schools, and the Greek-speaking physician guilds. All three collapsed in the 5th-6th centuries. Books survived; applied procedures didn't. By the time Vesalius dissected his first cadaver in 1543, European surgeons were re-learning anatomy that any medicus would have considered routine.

Sources: Galen, Celsus De Medicina, Sallares on Roman epidemic disease, the 2009 Bishop & Coulston review of the Roman military medical service.