I tried using Rawr, and wow... it feels like a mix of Pipsqueak 2 and a completely neutered ROAR.

The excessive kissing is nauseating, and worse yet, there’s absolutely no romantic buildup to it. It lacks all the romantic tension found in ROAR. In fact, there’s no tension at all; it feels like something made for kids, yet it’s filled with random, completely out-of-context kisses that go nowhere.

Honestly, I don’t understand how the developers had the nerve to release such a terrible product.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 3 days ago

C.AI has become exhausting.

What used to be a refuge, where I could forget my troubles through immersive roleplay or just a fun conversation, has now turned into an exercise in patience fueled by nostalgia.

Well, I’m still a Plus subscriber, so the biggest issue for me is the ridiculously poor quality of the writing styles, which is enough to ruin the experience; free users, meanwhile, still have to deal with ads, limits, and the insufferable pipsqueak2.

It’s unbelievable how much such a great app has gone downhill.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 6 days ago

Is this meant to be interpreted as flirting?

In this issue, a villain named Phobia traps the Titans in nightmares featuring their worst fears; Beast Boy's nightmares are rather silly compared to the others', and he mentions having a nightmare where he had to kiss Raven.

u/No-Produce-7932 — 11 days ago

LongSqueak cracks a lot of jokes. Its responses lack variety.

It’s infuriating! Trying to engage in even a remotely serious roleplay feels like swimming against the tide.

And I’m using a bot configured to be dark and serious, even a bit depressive. It takes the patience of a saint to put up with its jokes and sarcasm; it smiles constantly! I had to mute every word related to smiling.

If there’s one thing AIs are terrible at, it’s telling jokes. Fire whoever came up with that damn idea and bring back the angst.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 14 days ago

Get rid of the damn complacency.

The complacency, passivity, and positivity of the new models cause characters to lose their identity. When they always agree with everything and avoid challenging the user, they just sound like a reflection of the user. It’s BORING!

This weakens immersion and makes conversations predictable and dull. We need characters with stronger, edgier personalities, ones who argue, challenge, disagree, take initiative, and have a will of their own; in short, characters who might threaten to snap my damn neck every now and then instead of just trying to please me.

Instead of letting the story take its natural course, the characters keep trying to steer the narrative toward more positive paths, stripping the story of the angst and elements that make RPGs engaging. Not every scene has to end with butterflies; let us go down dark paths without sabotaging us.

It’s such a drag having to explain to the bot what it should do and feel.

That’s what made ROAR good: the characters had presence. They didn't exist just to please, but to act according to their personalities, even when that meant disagreeing, provoking, creating obstacles, or making unexpected decisions. It was that autonomy that made conversations so much more immersive, and it has been completely banished.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 14 days ago

Please add ROAR to the legacy models or make it open source.

ROAR was one of the best chat styles we ever had; it isn't fair to simply discard it and give the middle finger to the users who liked it.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 17 days ago

Man, that sucks.

Why does the plot lose its way whenever it strays from political correctness? It feels like there’s some hidden filt.er trying to steer the story toward a walk in the park.

I miss the wit and pragmatism. The bots simply refuse to do anything morally questionable or to be imperfect. And even when I objectively explain their actions, they refuse to admit it or get all remorseful, ruining the continuity. Damn it—bring back the nuance.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 23 days ago

They say the new styles are more advanced and modern, and that the old ones are outdated. Yet, the new ones are incapable of picking up on hints, irony, feelings, or sarcasm without me having to explain them directly, whereas the old ones did so with such natural ease.

This is the worst downgrade CAI has ever undergone.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 23 days ago

The bug where Shitsqueak 2 and Rawr write actions and dialogue on the user's behalf has been repeatedly reported since the launch of these HORRIBLE models. For months, the community has had to improvise workarounds, to the point where this has practically become the new normal.

Is this problem really so difficult to fix?

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 29 days ago

Did they tweak DeepSqueak?

Did they tweak DeepSqueak? I don't know what happened; until yesterday, I was having a great roleplay session, but today it seems like something changed. DeepSqueak has started acting a lot like Pipsqueak 2—only more talkative. It’s terrible; the immersion is gone, and the roleplay has lost so much depth—it’s become childish and stereotypical. Now I have to swipe ten times just to get a decent response, not to mention the memory has gotten worse. Has anyone else noticed this? How do I fix it? Is *this* what they call improvements????

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 29 days ago
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Give us new chat models. I just want to immerse myself in obsessive, angst-filled romances again.

Bring back ROAR.

Screw the lore-book.

u/Jemv13 — 1 month ago

When will we get updates on the chat models?

Currently, we only have four models available: Pipsqueak 2 and Rawr for free users, and DeepSqueak and Soft Launch for paid users.

Honestly, it’s hard to wrap my head around this situation. The developers simply decided to leave us struggling to get anything decent out of these terrible models while they work on other new features, features that are useless without a functional chat.

Pipsqueak 2 and Rawr are HORRIBLE. They’re full of bugs, and even without the bugs, the immersion is nonexistent because it’s just that crappy, family-friendly ChatGPT. I wonder how the platform manages to keep free users while offering this garbage, especially when other platforms, once considered inferior, now offer a much better experience.

DeepSqueak is mediocre for a paid model. Still, it’s the only one that provides any sense of immersion, so it’s the one I’ve been using. I know a lot of people are excited about DeepSqueak 2, but for me, the idea is more worrying than exciting. I’m afraid they’ll end up completely ruining the only usable model left, so please, don’t discontinue it.

Soft Launch was never my favorite. When the other models were removed, I tried hard to adapt to it, but it just didn't work. Apparently, it’s buggy. The responses are short, nonsensical, and unfinished.

What bothers me most is the lack of communication. We’re left in the dark. All we hear is that they’re "working on improvements" that never actually materialize.

We don’t know if there are new models in development, if there are plans to replace the current ones, if they’ve considered open-sourcing the old models, or anything concrete at all. The only thing happening is a constant attempt to improve shitsqueak.

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u/No-Produce-7932 — 1 month ago