


Lucifero (Black Clover) vs Aeons + Kiana
Lucifero is a non-existent being, can Aeons or Kiana destroy him?



Lucifero is a non-existent being, can Aeons or Kiana destroy him?
Lucifer - DC Comics
Akuto Sai - Demon King Daimao
Jean Grey, White Phoenix of the Crown - Marvel Comics
Ishmael, Observer - Punishing: Gray Raven
Tried to choose people that are relatively known.
Ishmael might be the most unknown one, so her feats include:
Beyond-Dimensional Existence.
Acausality.
Universe Creation and can launch them as weapons.
Nigh-Omniscience.
Destroying Dimensions and Universe(s).
R1: Anti-Matter Legion w/o Nanook
R2: w/ Nanook
Since Black Clover scale to Universal to Multiversal+ I expect them to win.
What is the scaling when it comes to Glamour World?
Like does it have infinite dimensions within it, as some claim it is a universe? Up to 4D, 5D?
Where does it stand in cosmology? Outside of the Universe, separate from it or does it act more like a sub-space?
If it has infinite dimensions within, doesn’t that make Dorothy at minimum 1-B’ish? What about someone who destroys said Universe?
First of all I want to mention that I’ve never partook in any discussion about BC scaling so I’m new to this space. Hope you guys don’t tear me a new one lmao.
I’ve been told that Dorothy, inside her Glamour World can create copies of anyone and their powers, so I asked about people like Superboy Prime, Franklin Richards and demons from SMT.
Assuming that is indeed the truth is Universal a lowball for her? I mean copying people I mentioned with all of their powers is a BIG feat, she would need that kind of power to make a copy at the first place.
What would happen if the created Superboy Prime decided to leave GW, can he exist outside of it?
Can she beat people like Lucifer from DC if he was inside GW?
If that isn’t realistic, how far do her powers go? Can she just recreate the Black Clover Universe in a scenario where it is destroyed with her powers?
Thank you for your understanding.
Basically the title.
Other than perception and speedblitzing, does he have any way to counter or tank any version of Decomposition?
For those who don’t know what Decomposition is, it is exactly what it sounds like, basically decomposing matter into constituent molecules or straight up pure energy. It isn’t limited to only physical matter as well, he can use it on magic sequences or information bodies.
No-one has any multiversal feats. Their current best feat only effected one “universe”z
They lose in dimensionality to Hi3.
They don’t even know the existence of Sea of Quanta, so called Genius Society btw. Einstein and Tesla mogs them in their sleep.
They lose to hax to any Herrscher. Wendy has more AP and hax than Zephyro or Iron Tomb.
They lose to hax to Genshin higher ups. HP is multiversal, meanwhile Surtologi can beat Nanook.
Their MC doesn’t have a single win.
Only reason why Welt isn’t just killing Nanook or any other Aeon is for bullshit narrative reasons and to glaze the Trailblazer.
They cannot get out of a single leaf while Vita and possibly others are free to roam the Imaginary Tree.
Can someone actually explain to me why they are considered high-tiers?
R1: Without Nanook
R2: With Nanook
R3: Teyvat with Surtalogi and AL with Nanook
Since Surtalogi is stronger than anything in Teyvat, I’m going to assume it’s stronger than HP and Abyss, my GOAT is the best after all.
Personally think it’ll end up Hyperversal Surtalogi vs bum universal Nanook.
What do you guys think?
>!Ps: I’m joking about R2 and R3 but can they actually successfully invade w/o Nanook? I personally think they can but what do you guys think?!<
Match-ups:
Every Herrscher vs Every SEES Member, including Metis, Kotone and Elizabeth with SMT scaling.
For Persona’s: Shadow Operative’s their final Persona’s, Elizabeth has her boss fight Personas and MCs have the wild card (for this case Orpheus = Orpheus Telos, no DLC).
R1: Herrschers vs SEES w/ equipment but no Omni-Orb.
R2: Herrschers vs Final Personas and Omni-Orb for Makoto, Kotone and Elizabeth.
Extra Round:
Kiana, Otto, Kevin, Durandal, Vita, Welt and Senadina vs Naoya, Maya, Tatsuya, Makoto, Kotone, Yu and Ren.