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So basically everything about pantalone dottore and the potential revive

- the scales are unbalanced i suppose even if its positioned to show being tilted to pantalone's side implying dottore is in debt through visuals only

- pantalone telling him about the story of a guilty man who wanted to confess his sin to god while an angry mob outside waited to bring him to justice

- feofan meaning "manifestation of god"

- pantalone having priest - themes (can i call him daddy?)

- dottore quite literally confessing his sins in the last cutscene

- confession, forgiveness and rebirth being themes of Christianity in russia- i mean snehznaya

- pantalone got hit by the idea of a soul baby from dottore, which is declined as he cant do it alone, for now

- wearing the ring symbolising eternal connection at the very least

I suppose it all comes down to whether pantalone himself will be playable (because if he is then they must push another male with him. Its a tradition at this point for the tall males like with varka-flins , neuvi-wrio , alhaitham-kaveh, ororon-ifa , zhongli-childe , ayato-thoma) and i dont think they can push any other male character with him other than dottore since thats already been established since all the way back in sumeru.

And also if the devs themselves want him back- because if they want to then theres atleast a hundred different ways to do it. But will they after going above and beyond to give him a supposed "peaceful" goodbye (unlike in 6.3 where he went out cursing the entire world) with every character saying hes dead for good for the last time, with almost everything about him hastily resolved? Well we will know in 37 days when patch ID drops . Pray we see pantalone in it 🤷‍♀️

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u/No_Throat_5869 — 6 hours ago
▲ 180 r/DottoreMains+1 crossposts

When youre in a competition of being based as fuck but your competition is this guy [aq spoiler]

u/No_Throat_5869 — 24 hours ago

His hatred for columbina makes even more sense now.

As we know pantalone has always despised columbina, at first i thought it because of the obvious reason : she was born a goddess. Someone who didnt have to claw their way up to power but now that his backstory atleast in the fatui has been explained.. everything makes sense and it makes you question whether his hatred is really unjustified

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Feofan, age 20. Business failed, framed by a gang and sold to a certain doctor as a test subject. Unstable

https://preview.redd.it/ip42tc8lib2h1.jpg?width=952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd8eed031fe0ef90e1436f59d4318ed149ec83b3

From this point onwards we have atleast 8 records telling us about his sufferings as a harbinger, i will include a few

https://preview.redd.it/nu4gc75qib2h1.jpg?width=1065&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=480c52733cf6436ccc8fd0c59bd9265613dc56b9

https://preview.redd.it/satcy45qib2h1.jpg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d02b0f7f62cf143e71e273169d19ce0153a7afa6

https://preview.redd.it/te3l865qib2h1.jpg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef9ec2bcf752908f1f17d44cf9b1f3ed95597623

https://preview.redd.it/sg2wj75qib2h1.jpg?width=969&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f5096bfe305b415fbf3ae7b3f1babd8488eda9d

https://preview.redd.it/9gfgd95qib2h1.jpg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ec7393798a77028e98cd8ef35529962305e9b84

https://preview.redd.it/p7ohoh7qib2h1.jpg?width=1012&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9f12f216e2490aca82c165d1ff111636f19cd39

https://preview.redd.it/ckog185qib2h1.jpg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d89266ad0ea4388609949571f05bdddd136b042d

Now we dont know who exactly has been literally assaulting him even as a harbinger but we do see him being constantly injured and depressed, turning to smoking as a coping mechanism..

Now imagine you see this. From his pov. A newly appointed harbinger - columbina. Who does absolutely nothing in the fatui (thats what it looks like to him ) doesnt get sent to missions while you get sent on field missions and are almost guranteed to come back with injuries. You see this harbinger at the 3rd rank receiving a life of comfort (tea parties, sleeping, occasional "boring" experiments ) while you have to deal with acid attacks and poisoning. And the only reason youre alive- your only friend- starts treating this..new worthless "harbinger" as family . Yeah id be furious too.

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u/No_Throat_5869 — 3 days ago
▲ 295 r/PantaloneMains+2 crossposts

Something about Dottore and pantalone that tears me apart [preload leaks mentioned]

Setting aside the absolute shit show that 6.6 aq is with the cutscene dialogues included, i love how we explore dottore and his only actual friend's dynamic and the things included about pantalone's past and dottore helping him just makes me wanna jump (negative)

It just shows how much dottore can form a genuine connection with someone and how pantalone genuinly cares about him (also his abusive past mentioned) one thing i dont like is that this is his first appearance and he has already given up on life.

>The Doctor
After I die, there will be no one to make the elixir of immortality, and your remaining stock will only last a few more years. How then will you prove that you didn't perish in this incident alongside everyone else?

>16569
When I feel optimistic about market environments, I never forcibly adjust them — they have their own direction. And I myself am one such environment.

>16569
I have been quite particular about many things in my life. But where the manner of my death is concerned, I choose not to be. to be.

Anyway here are some of the things i really wanted to mention, to get the thoughts out. (Maybe even vent) first things first i always imagined their relationship to be transactional and mutually beneficial however pantalone's lines suggest he has always been operating at loss

>16682
Weighing profit against loss is a necessary part of life. But to tell the truth, I have been operating at a loss since this all began... since many centuries ago, in fact.

>16569
For instance, why would a banker act as the executor of a will? If you hadn't deposited your personal belongings at Northland Bank, I would have no reason to be here right now.

"Since this all began" refers to him sneaking out an entire military to sumeru, going against orders and helping the "traitor". Yet he helped dottore execute his..will. Why? You may ask. Well he has known from the very beginning that dottore will not succeed

>16569
From the very beginning, I never thought you could win this game.

>The Doctor
But still you came, contract in hand, to honor our agreement.

>16569
Because I am a reputable partner.

He is also depressed and suicidal (explained later) -This coupled with the fact that he has very much made peace with the fact that he is going to die , he is not afraid to spend his limited time to help out a friend. Yet even knowing this .. he wishes for dottore to succeed, he knows he has to say goodbye but still hopes for their conversation to continue , to buy a little more time.

>16569
As long as your current soul survives, there will be no need to create a new individual

>Il Dottore
See you.

>16569
Isn't it a little too early to be saying goodbye? Not that I wish to keep you from your business, of course.

["Isnt it a little too early to be saying goodbye?" Yes pantalone it is. Iam not crying YOU ARE-]

As for their history theyve been working together- or atleast known eachother for 4 centuries.

>Il Dottore [228485338]
You too might ask yourself, which stage of your life you want to be preserved at? The day your business failed? Or the day you were framed by a gang and sold off to a medical lab as a test subject?

>16569 [3660303562]
....We needn't dredge up the past

Feofan or pantalone was framed and sold to Il Dottore as a test subject, aa can be seen by the records below: (notice how he only ever heals and helps his patients.. hm? mad scientist where? is this his "other" side? a genuine doctor.)

https://preview.redd.it/z06pxc6u522h1.jpg?width=952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=341b8fc937d5f7caa370b5b1f7c31eac3da4283f

https://preview.redd.it/uwebdb6u522h1.jpg?width=994&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=feb9faacae7d737e42424a682e94e8040fee2cee

This is just the starting of suspicious injuries on feofan. Next thing we know hes a fatui bank clerk .. and refuses to tell dottore the cause of his injuries. "Isnt being a bank cleek supposed to be a safe job?" Kill me now 😭

https://preview.redd.it/rcg3ox63622h1.jpg?width=1065&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27efe6173caacaa5dddb46408b263530131013ae

After this due to dottore's recccomendation to pierro, pantalone becomes the 9th harbinger at age 30. This also when he starts smoking to cope with the stress

https://preview.redd.it/csh2vrlo922h1.jpg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbd7307ee999c79571768c79baab8902420bee4c

>16569 Managing money is not like other professions. Mine is not a role I could have acquired based on your recommendation alone, and certainly not one I could have lasted so long in without genuine ability.

And then slowly over the years we can see pantalone be on the verge of death multiple times because of very anomalous attempts at his life . He even develops depression , starts smoking 20-30 cigs a day. To the point that even dottore.. noticed. And joked about it to not push him too much

Notice? After the segments dissected the og's body , the first thing they did.. was utilize that information to stabilize and extend pantalone's life

And ofcourse a bunch of rather depressing events and dottore assisting him through it all..

https://preview.redd.it/nobrgf7na22h1.jpg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66d6df73a766cd1b5d2493dfaf2d80edbccbb296

https://preview.redd.it/3k5lwg7na22h1.jpg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6805d759dfa70dc752732463dcfc1f1db7395a3f

https://preview.redd.it/fr6vrm7na22h1.jpg?width=969&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef5dc6e2b988e901e2ddd762e74de7d815ddf12c

https://preview.redd.it/bp1eon7na22h1.jpg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44ac96525ead4a1388d6ee861e363d7fe38931cf

https://preview.redd.it/m9b02o7na22h1.jpg?width=1012&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d341f43da3c6667e077dcc69e830e1012f30d90e

Basically my guy here works so hard he forgets to eat and collapses, has to deal with people trying to kill him (iam impressed at the audacity) , suffering from depression , frying his lungs (smokes so much to deal with the sheer stress), his eyes, getting poisoned and what not.

How can you not feel bad for him... and for dottore. And for this entire duo to be introduced to us in one patch for TEN MINUTES and then taken away so cruelly.

>16569
Oh, but I am, and I hope you will be too. It may have been a long time since anyone told you this, Dottore, but I recognize that you are a truly rare talent.

>The Doctor
...Hah.

When.. was the last time someone complimented you zandik?

Well what now? After 400 years of partnership, 400 years of dottore being feofan's doctor and him being dottore's supporter in everything.....

https://preview.redd.it/tc2fc91zc22h1.jpg?width=1014&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b84513fedefe57e18fbae26e7606d6c102fc35d8

..... dottore is gone. For real this time (as he says so himself), pantalone watches his 400 year old ally dissolve into ashes and instantly goes back to smoking. He knows he has barely a few years left and hes fucking speeding up the process.

>The Doctor
After I die, there will be no one to make the elixir of immortality, and your remaining stock will only last a few more years. How then will you prove that you didn't perish in this incident alongside everyone else?

>16569
I have been quite particular about many things in my life. But where the manner of my death is concerned, I choose not to be.

>16569
Field work always takes quite a toll on me, as you know. Once I'm back in Snezhnaya, I'll start with a well-earned cigarette.

>Il Dottore
Why are you so eager to ruin your lungs after I went to the trouble of replacing them for you?

>16569
If you have an issue with it, feel free to try to stop me.

.🥹.

Yeah this is the most well written yet the most doomed duo genshin has *ever* introduced (fight me ) and that.. already gone.

Bonus mention of CHILD DOTTORE fixing pantalone's nosebleed by recommending him to wear his glasses 😭 arent they fucking ADORABLE

https://preview.redd.it/jm5qdw5qd22h1.jpg?width=990&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=934f1b2946bf8127b58ad5ce5e036b89c235f5d1

Reminder they took this away from us. We couldve had this in SNEZHNAYA. The two most well written tragic characters navigating a complex relationship but NOOOOO god forbid they let dottore be alive for more than 1h

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u/No_Throat_5869 — 4 days ago