u/Not_Very_Kuzari

What do you think the frum world's reaction will be when in the Jewish year 6000 (the agreed upon latest date that Moshiach can come by) Moshiach never shows up?

Will there be mass panic and abandonment amongst the orthodox? Will cognitive dissonance (AKA Emunah) hold strong and the Rabbanim find a new date to look forward to in some far-out Zohar/medrash? Or perhaps something else?

It's certainly interesting to think about and I'd love to hear your thoughts

On this beautiful fast day I had the pleasure of speaking to a Rabbi who gave me his best argument for the divine origin of Judaism

His first premise was that the Jewish people have survived so long and have preserved the Torah and kept it's traditions so perfectly and nobody questioned it's validity for so long that it must be from God

I heartily disagreed and pointed out that the Torah only started getting perfectly preserved ~2000 years ago at the earliest and before that we have no evidence that it was actually the same bible. I also said that the way the Bible was written points to it being compiled and edited over centuries rather than 1 complete book. To which he said "It's not true, God giving it makes more sense"

I then gave him a bunch of reasons why the Torah's claims of history (specifically Noah's Ark) don't align with what we actually observe such as no genetic bottleneck in humans that points to a crash 4000 years ago, no genetic bottleneck in an overwhelming amount of animals that would have only had 2 survivors if the story was true, no global sediment layer that would suggest a massive flood happened across the planet, the existence of trace fossils and amber fossils that would not have survived if a massive boiling tsunami engulfed the planet, no noticable change in glacier patterns during that time etc

To which he said "Scientists get stuff wrong all the time"

Um, ok? But we have evidence that you can fact check you don't have to take my word for it Rebbey.

Anyways we agreed to disagree lol

Hello, I'm a M17 currently in an Orthodox Yeshiva and agnostic. I keep bouncing between different podcasts and books and really just trying to find the objective truth on whether Judaism is God-given and if the miracles claimed to have happened actually did happen.

I see a lot of Jewish people saying that kids mostly go OTD because of emotional reasons and not because they don't believe that the religion is true which I can agree with but I dont think that everybody is necessarily like that and I would love to know for sure whether Judaism is true or not.

Now obviously I know it's not that simple and if it was then we would have a lot less problems but what I would like to know is what research have you guys done that has convinced you of your views of Judaism and whats a good place to start if I wanted to research this?

I'm a M17 currently in an Orthodox Yeshiva and agnostic. I keep bouncing between different podcasts and books and really just trying to find the objective truth on whether Judaism is God-given and if the miracles claimed to have happened actually did happen.

I see a lot of Jewish people saying that kids mostly go OTD because of emotional reasons and not because they don't believe that the religion is true which I can agree with but I dont think that everybody is necessarily like that and I would love to know for sure whether Judaism is true or not.

Now obviously I know it's not that simple and if it was then we would have a lot less problems but what I would like to know is what research have you guys done that has convinced you of your views of Judaism and whats a good place to start if I wanted to research this?

Hey everyone I'm new here. I'm 17 yr old male in an orthodox high school and have been contemplating the existence of God (and specifically judaism's version) for quite a while. FYI I'm currently Agnostic Atheist

Recently I was told by my Rebbi to talk to Rabbi Daniel Mechanic about all of my questions and he will be able to answer them. Obviously I doubt that but I'm still giving it a chance.

Anyways, before meeting with Rabbi Mechanic he told me about this book that should help answer my questions as well it's called "The Indisputable Truth"

While I was scrolling through Amazon to find it I also found another book titled "Beyond a reasonable doubt" by rabbi Shmuel Walden

I was just wondering if anyone smarter than me already read it and what their thoughts are for how compelling their evidence and reasoning is.

Thanks and gut shabbos!