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After thinking about it, I find it hard to believe John can beat Orrin while he’s in Sera’s body. I think the whole point of this event is to set up Cameron’s intervention.

It’s definitely possible since Cameron has been tracking John, and several days have already passed, so his arrival would make sense, unlike what happened during the Wellston raid.

My theory is that John and Seraphina will end up in a brutal, exhausting fight. Once Orrin feels that John has been worn down enough, he’ll try to force Sera to kill herself. At that exact moment, Cameron will step in, sever the connection using his Barrier, and with the combination of Barrier and time manipulation, he’ll easily break through Orrin’s defenses and take him out.

I think this moment would completely amaze John and make him realize the full potential of his own abilities, motivating him to train under Cameron afterward.

The only thing that honestly worries me is the Bureau members. I’m not sure what role they’ll play, but I don’t think they’ll witness Cameron, or maybe he’ll eliminate them early before they can recognize him. From a story perspective, it makes more sense for Cameron to remain hidden.

I know this theory sounds crazy, but I’d honestly give it about a 50% chance of happening. The only other possibility I can see is John and Sera somehow breaking free from Orrin’s control, but I don’t think that would be nearly as convincing as Cameron stepping in.

Now that Uru has forced us into a John vs. Seraphina rematch scenario, I think it’s time to analyze both of their current states.

Orrin in control of Seraphina’s body is terrifying. The latest chapter showed that he’s capable of using her ability very efficiently, from acceleration to healing himself and everything else that comes with it. However, he doesn’t seem to handle pain very well, probably because he’s not used to it.

On the other hand, John is at the strongest point he’s ever been. If my theory is correct, John amplifies copied abilities by 10%. That would give him Barrier at an effective level of 7.2, Cassandra’s ability at 7.5, and Healing at 6.4, with the possibility of adding a fourth ability if the situation requires it.
Healing may be a little difficult to make use of since it requires him to drain aura from someone else first, but his Barrier is incredibly durable. He can withstand several punches from Seraphina along with dozens of other attacks, and with healing reaching an effectiveness of 13.5, he won’t be an easy opponent to take down.

He may hold back a little because he’s fighting Seraphina’s body, but I believe John will do what has to be done. I think he’ll either defeat Seraphina or end the fight in a draw.

Yes, Seraphina is the higher-level ability user, but level isn’t everything. The matchup and the nature of their abilities give John the advantage. The particles may not be particularly useful here, but in a confined space they could still make a difference. Honestly, Orrin may have chosen the wrong person to possess, because John is clearly the stronger combatant right now.

I don’t know what will happen, but I’m expecting an exceptional performance from John. Uru usually tries to stay consistent, and she’s given John a very solid set of abilities. Who knows? Maybe he’ll drain aura from Seraphina’s body, copy Orrin’s ability, or even figure out Arlo’s chain technique after seeing it and become capable of breaking the chains.

I also don’t think Orrin will remain inside Seraphina’s body for very long. I expect he’ll be forced out somehow, either in the next chapter or the one after.

What do you guys think? Do you agree, or am I letting my emotions get the better of me?

I know everyone is upset about the latest chapter, and I am too. But I don’t think being harsh toward Uru is the solution.

The scenario was somewhat predictable, and I don’t think it was executed well. The short chapter only made people even angrier. I usually speak up about the things I don’t like, but I can still see how Orrin managed to take control of Seraphina.

First of all, I don’t think Orrin is stronger than Seraphina. A level above 8.5 seems very unlikely to me. What happened in the last chapter wasn’t a matter of raw power, but of how his ability was used.

Orrin took advantage of his high defenses to buy himself enough time to break into Seraphina’s mind. She wasn’t cautious enough, and unlike Arlo, she doesn’t have strong defensive abilities that can block mental attacks. Just as physical damage is reflected back onto her because her body isn’t protected against it, she also isn’t immune to mental attacks. The idea is similar to what happened with Tariq when John was immobilized—so the concept of Orrin controlling Seraphina makes sense.

However, I think Uru made a mistake in the execution. Seraphina is a careful and intelligent character, and she already knew about Orrin’s ability, so having her fall into the trap this easily doesn’t feel convincing. Uru should have put more effort into the setup. The idea of a rematch between John and Seraphina is great, but it needed more believable reasons. For example, Orrin could have struggled while Seraphina stayed cautious, only for him to outsmart her in the end. A longer and more engaging chapter would have made a huge difference.

Even so, the scenario itself still has the potential to be exciting. I know the execution was disappointing, and I was one of the first people to criticize it. But we can’t change what already happened. I think our message has reached Uru, but taking it too far will only put her under more pressure, which could hurt the quality of the story even more, especially this season.

Maybe this issue will solve itself as the characters continue to grow stronger. Uru has pushed their power levels so high that she’s now struggling to write situations where these characters can actually be challenged, which is why she has to create scenarios that temporarily limit them.

As for why Seraphina didn’t immediately rush in during Time Freeze and take Orrin out early, that would have been logical, but it also would have made for a pretty boring scenario. Besides, it doesn’t seem like she can keep time frozen for very long before being detected. She also let her guard down because she believed her arrival had caught Orrin by surprise. Cassandra’s plan was flawed because it didn’t make proper use of Seraphina.

As for Orrin’s level, I still believe he’s somewhere around 7.5 to 7.8.

Alright, let's analyze the worst-case scenario: Orrin has taken control of Seraphina, and now we are facing a John vs. Seraphina rematch.

I’m still betting on Seraphina, but that would only be the case if she were the one actually fighting. Orrin is a master at time manipulation, and while the situation doesn't make much sense, I don't think he can keep up with the current John. However, John will be fighting while holding back, so I’m not sure.

It’s up to John, Arlo, or even Seraphina herself to break Orrin’s control before he feels the battle is lost. If he realizes he can't defeat John, he will kill Seraphina.

I really hope Arlo recovers quickly; Amelia’s healing is powerful, and she might be able to heal him.

What do you guys think? Will Orrin lose to John, or will he win, forcing Cameron to intervene to save the situation?

What do you think? Is Seraphina under Orrin**’**s control or not?

I’m honestly worried that if Seraphina has sided with Orrin, it would be a complete disaster. That said, the current John—aside from his somewhat depleted aura reserves—has never been stronger than he is now. Because of that, he might actually be able to keep up with Seraphina, or even defeat her. Without her experience and intelligence, Seraphina wouldn’t be at her best, so John could potentially overcome her.

But what about everyone else? Would they be able to hold out, or would it simply be game over?
Personally, I don’t like the idea of Seraphina being under Orrin’s control. It contradicts the story, since Orrin ordered her elimination precisely because he couldn’t control her. If she really was under his control all along, why would he have wanted to get rid of her in the first place?

Also, John never noticed any trace of Orrin’s aura inside Seraphina’s body. That doesn’t make much sense to me. Still, I reluctantly accept it as a possible scenario, because Orrin did have the opportunity to place her under his control.

After reading the latest chapter, I think John is the real trump card in this battle.

John’s barrier is a stronger version of Arlo’s, so in theory it should be able to block Orrin’s ability. However, I’m not sure whether it can completely sever the connection the way Arlo’s barrier does. Even so, this at least suggests that John is likely immune to Orrin’s ability.

On top of that, John has a powerful long-range attack thanks to Kassandra’s ability. With his amplification, I believe he can break through Orrin’s defenses. His healing ability also allows him to deal with the pressure of the fight and any damage or cracks to his barrier.

Overall, John has a very strong and well-balanced ability set, and he still has room for a fourth ability. I really hope he copies Umbral Shift, since it would be extremely useful for catching Orrin off guard and later retreating if necessary.

I’m also very worried about Seraphina. Her ability requires physical contact to deal damage, meaning she’ll have to fight in open spaces. That leaves her vulnerable to Orrin’s mind control. If he manages to brainwash her and turn her against her allies, she’ll become a problem that simply can’t be dealt with. Yes, John has a powerful loadout, but I doubt he’ll be able to defeat Seraphina before his aura runs out. On top of that, Orrin and his followers will make the battle even more difficult.

Kassandra’s team is already exhausted and relatively weak, so I don’t expect much from them.
As for Cameron’s involvement, I personally think it’s unlikely. Bringing him in now would waste a valuable card that could be used later. Once the authorities learn he’s involved, they’ll monitor him closely and put pressure on him, which could ruin a lot of future plans—especially with the possibility of a mission to rescue Jane.

I think Seraphina won’t be able to contribute much during most of the battle. Instead, John will have to shoulder the majority of the pressure until Orrin is defeated, allowing Seraphina the opportunity to move in safely.

Orrin is honestly terrifying — even the smallest mistake against him could mean death. That said, I don’t think he really has the upper hand. Sure, Orrin is strong and carries himself with a lot of confidence, but keeping control over Seraphina isn’t that simple. If you think about it logically, she’s smart, fast, and fully aware of how dangerous his ability is, plus her level is extremely high.
On her side, John specializes in aura manipulation and would immediately detect any attempt by Orrin to control Seraphina, protecting her with a barrier. Arlo is also around, and if things get messy, he can cut the connection.
The real nightmare scenario would be if Orrin forced Seraphina to kill herself — she’s so fast that no one could stop it. But honestly, that feels far‑fetched. Yes, Orrin’s ability is annoying and hard to deal with, but his confidence doesn’t mean much to me. He’s going to lose and fall against this team because they’re simply beyond what he can handle.
As for his level, I’d place him somewhere between 7.5 and 7.8, definitely not higher. Personally

Ever since this scene, I’ve been wondering what Remi’s true potential ceiling is.

Considering that Cameron specializes in abilities, I think his assessment carries a lot of weight. The fact that he singled out Remi suggests that she has exceptional potential, and there are several reasons why.

First, her ability is highly versatile and appears to have a very high growth ceiling. Second, she’s still young. At seventeen, her ability is likely still developing. Kuyo continued to grow even after turning twenty, which means Remi probably has at least three more years of natural growth ahead of her.

On top of that, the life she’s currently living as a wanted individual practically forces her to keep improving and adapting. Constant pressure and conflict are often what drive ability users to grow the most.

That said, there are also factors that could limit her development. Her genetics are good—she comes from a high-tier family—but they’re not extraordinary like John’s. Another issue is time. I don’t think the story will progress several years within its own timeline, so those potential three years of growth may never be fully explored.

Even so, Cameron’s comment gives me the impression that Remi will eventually surpass level 7.0. If her potential were below 7.0, I don’t think Cameron would have made that remark. Characters above level 6.0 are relatively common and aren’t considered truly exceptional, so his statement feels like it implies something beyond that.

Because of this, my current guess is that Remi’s ceiling is higher than 7.0 but lower than 7.8, with the most likely range being around 7.2–7.3.

I know this season has been receiving a lot of criticism since the Prison Arc, but the events of the latest chapters are honestly ridiculous.

I understand that Orrin set up a well-planned ambush and that he already had influence over the local Bureau members, but what’s happening right now makes no sense.

Arlo’s Barrier is suddenly getting shattered by a bunch of random elites using a 3.8-level claw ability. Not only that, but this relatively weak claw somehow causes internal damage to Arlo, while the reflected damage barely affects the attackers. Meanwhile, John—who was stronger and more durable back in Season 1—literally loses an arm when reflected damage is used against him.

Then there’s Kassandra. She can’t even take down a handful of elites with her attacks, despite previously cornering Keene and being portrayed as a dangerous and competent opponent due to both her intelligence and the strength of her ability.

Orrin’s actions are also questionable. He knew the Bureau was targeting him, yet he chose not to use the ability suppressor and instead engaged in a fair fight while sacrificing large numbers of useful followers. Considering that he could have ended the entire conflict almost instantly with the device, his decision makes little sense. The only explanation I can think of is that he no longer has access to the suppressor because it was lost during Valerie’s raid on the Spectre facility in Wellston back in Season 2. If that’s not the case, then I don’t see any reasonable justification for his actions.

Uru-chan seriously needs to improve the fight writing. I don’t care that much about the artwork; writing quality is a completely different issue. My biggest problem is the lack of consistency and credibility. We’ve been repeatedly told that high-tiers are essentially equivalent to an army, so how are a few elites with claw abilities suddenly overwhelming characters of that caliber?

The power scaling and battle logic just don’t feel believable anymore.

I recently read a theory claiming that Sera will fall under Orrin’s control, and honestly, that makes no sense.

For Orrin to control someone, certain conditions have to be met, most importantly injecting his aura into the target. If Sera were already under Orrin’s control, he wouldn’t have been trying to get rid of her. On top of that, John would have detected Orrin’s aura within Sera a long time ago.

I also think it’s practically impossible for Orrin to pull that off during the current battle. Sera is fully aware of his ability and is being extremely cautious.

As for another fight between John and Seraphina, I don’t see that happening. Even if it did, John would lose. He has an amazing set of abilities, but his aura is heavily drained, and he has no way to keep up with Seraphina’s speed.

Personally, I believe Orrin will be crushed in this battle, bringing his run as a major villain to an end. He’ll likely be injected with the ability suppressant. He may resist for a while, but eventually he’ll break under the pressure because it’s simply more than he can handle.

The government forces walked straight into Orrin’s trap. He had already taken control of the Bureau agents in the area, but he underestimated the Authorities — especially Arlo, who seems to have evolved his ability to the point where he can actually break Orrin’s control.

My prediction for the upcoming chapters is that Arlo will successfully free the controlled agents, allowing the Authorities to breach the facility. In response, Orrin will unleash his strongest followers, leading to complete chaos inside.

Once both sides are exhausted, I think John and Seraphina will finally make their move and infiltrate the place. Seraphina is probably going to dominate everyone there, while John focuses on securing Orrin and beating the ice-user.

I also think John will end up combining several powerful abilities — healing, defense, strength, and maybe even a mobility-based ability like shadow movement, similar to the one the Authorities member used in the latest chapter.

That said, I don’t think his stats will be insanely overpowered. Maybe around 10 in power and defense, 7.5 in recovery, and 4 in speed. He likely won’t stay for a full fight since his aura will already be heavily drained. His main objective will probably just be kidnapping Orrin and escaping.

In the latest chapter, we saw Arlo evolve his barriers to the point where they were capable of breaking through Orrin’s ability. This made me wonder: did this change actually increase Arlo’s level, or did he simply develop a new skill?

After thinking about it, I believe the hexagonal barriers are a major evolution of his ability, similar to Valerie’s diamond-shaped barriers. Because of that, I’m leaning toward the idea that Arlo received a 0.5 level increase, just like Blyke and Isen did, which would place him at level 7.0 currently.
My prediction for his updated stats would be:

Defense: 10
Power: 7
Trick: 7
Recovery: 4
Speed: 2