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How could Billy and Stu have both been out and about in scream 1. Here’s what I mean

1. We know Himbry is killed in the day time scene which is risky considering cerfew. But then we see Ghostface sneak into the store and Tatums residence. What I really want to know is was this done by a prankster Billy or Stu. And before u say it no. It wasn’t Roman Bridger because he said in scream 3 he had no ideas of the events of scream 1.
   So we know himbry is killed(I previously made a post about this outlining how it could’ve been Stu. So let’s assume that himbrys kill was Stu, even though i think it was Billy there’s no way Billy was going to be in costume out in cerfew as a suspect. So here’s my question did Stu kill himbry wait for night fall to let Billy know about himbry. While this happens Billy arrives to Tatums house where he spies on Sid in costume in the bushes moves without being caught and goes to the video Store where stu would meet him. Then Billy obviously gets there first and then Stu arrives as we see in the movie. Then once that’s over Billy follows Sidney and Tatum into the store.(yes it’s risky but I don’t know if he would’ve trusted Stu with this, sneaks around and goes out an exit where presumably he wouldn’t get caught. Then Billy heads to the school because he heard Tatum probably say “I told Stu to keep his mouth shut”. He would then go to the school to hang himbry while Tatum and Sid head to Stu’s party.
   I don’t know what yall think of this. Lmk because the logistics don’t make sense and please Billy glazers understand that Billy would have to be superhuman for that to happen

Hello everyone I’ve had something on my mind that is bothering me. That thing is.
Who killed principal himbry in scream 1.
Now we know a lot of u are gonna say Billy. And I do agree.
However there are some pretty solid arguments for Stu macher(the goat btw).

1. We see Stu heading back towards the school. Maybe to stick around to help Billy hand himbry but we don’t know maybe Stu wanted to kill himbry before of the killing game being fun.
2. The logistics of the store scene. So we know Stu arrives at the video store. However it seems like he just got there. Billy seems to have gotten there before Stu. Also one Ghostface could not have hung himbry, then stalked Sidney and Tatum at Tatums house that quickly. Explain to me this how could Billy kill himbry. Hang him, spy on Sid and make it to the video store before Stu, something isn’t adding up.
3. Yes I know the kill styles used to kill himbry and the planning seems to indicate Billy killed himbry. However, the himbry kill was to distract the partygoers away from the house and who made the call and hosted the party? Stu maybe it was his idea to kill himbry to lure everyone away. Also something to think about maybe Billy and Stu didn’t hang himbry during curfew, which could have possibly been why Billy gave Stu the eyebrow raise.
4. I still do think Billy killed principal himbry but let me know because the timeline like I said Dosent add up and how could Ghostface get from the school, to Tatums house to the store that quick they arrived separately. In conclusion this is how think this could’ve turned out.
5. Stu invites everyone and Tatum and Sid heads back to the school waits till everyone leaves. Sneaks into the costume catching himbry off guard and stabs him leaving the body there. Billy waits for Sid and Tatum to leave and follows them to her house where he would have the costume. Stu during this time sets everything up for the party. Billy goes to the store and Stu goes straight from his house to the store.

Reason 1 kill style: This has been discussed in other scream movies as we know Charlie admits to killing Olivia, Marnie, Jenny and Robbie, who all of which took multiple stabs to kill, we see this on the video when Charlie stabs Marnie multiple times evidenced by him showing her the kill.
And as for Kate, hoss, Rebecca and Perkins, all of them were dead with one fatal stab, 2 to the head and 2 to the stomach area.

2. The logistics of the house kills heavily point to Jill. Now before people say that Jill couldn’t have done it because she had left. When we see Jill’s messages with Kirby she says on my way not I’m here. This could’ve just been sent by Kirby meaning Jill could’ve had enough time to kill hoss and Perkins and her mother. Because she knew her mother wouldn’t leave. I also believe she is the one to call Sidney about gales stabbing evidenced by the way the killer mentions family. Now u might be asking how she could’ve snuck out of the house to kill them. Well she could’ve climbed through her window to kill the cops and sneak back in through the roof or back door before Sidney goes up in her room and looks for her and this is when I think she’s already outside calling Sidney while in the Ghostface costume waiting to kill her mother.
3. Charlie couldn’t have done this for 2 reasons. 1 we know Charlie rode with Robbie so he would have to be Robbie’s ride to the party so he didn’t have an immediate place to go anywhere and couldn’t possibly have drove 10 miles that quick without being noticed by Robbie. The stabathon is 10 miles from Kirby’s house.

I believe these theories even more now and Jill’s confession to my own mother had to die kinda implies it I know she didn’t extinctivley say it but why would she say that?

Laura’s kill= Jason carvey we litterally see him unmask no explanation needed

Jason and Greg’s death= Wayne Bailey. The way he kills Jason and Greg is similar to the way he kills in the bodgea, also he sneaks in to the house as he would have acsses since he is a cop and would know how to get into the house. He planted Sam’s drivers license at the scene which Quinn would’ve given him so it’s obvious this was Wayne Bailey.

Bodega kills= Wayne Bailey, both friends are accounted for (Quinn and Ethan) if it were them they would have to leave before Sam and Tara and since everything is so close in proximity it’s not out of the possibility that way could’ve got in the Ghostface costume and gotten out in time to get back in the crime scene. Also this Ghostface is very tactical with there weaponry and combat iq is through the roof which makes me think it’s Wayne.

Dr stone. Ethan . Now people think that this is Wayne , I disagree and this is why. I think that Wayne was too busy with getting Kirby situated as she was apart of the investigation and as we know on Kirby’s time stamp the kill happened around 15-20 minutes after it would be highly improbable for it to happen and be Wayne so I think he sent Ethan to go off campus, steal her notes and kill stone so suspicion isn’t on Wayne

Paul 2.0 and Anika’s kills= Ethan, as we know Quinn is the one getting in she gets faked killed, also Quinn was previously taking to Wayne on the phone so by process of elimination it has to be Ethan also in that scene it was jack champion. So Ethan is the only responsible explanation also Ethan claims he had Econ but I’m not buying it.

Gales attack and brooks kill= Quinn this one is obvious because Wayne and Ethan are both accounted for in the park scene so don’t have to go into the details.

Mindy’s stabbing on subway= Quinn again this one is obvious as Ethan is with her and not in costume and she litterally admits to it.

Jenny Randall and Marnie cooper= Charlie walker(he litterally admits to it. Jill however was on the phone

Rebeca morris= Charlie(Jill is presented to us

The one who planted the evidence in Sidney’s car= Charlie

Rebeca Roberts kill= Charlie walker, Jill is in the hospital as we know from a deleted scene . No way could she have escaped undetected. So she had Charlie do this

Gale weathers attack at the stabathon= Charlie walker
We know this because Charlie was there and could easily sneak away undetected, no matter what. Jill was at the house at the time.
Sidney’s phone call after gales attack= Jill the way the killer taunts Sidney is Jill’s mo

Officer hoss and officer Perkins kill= Charlie Walker, now this is where Jill fans will go batshit crazy , but why would Charlie have the cops gun when handing it to Jill saying the cops wanted u to have this. Also why would Jill kill the cops outside of her house.

Kate Roberts= now this one I have no definitive answer. I lean towards Charlie because the killer was slammed by the door pretty hard and would’ve left a bruise, in the party scene we see Jill with her sleeves rolled down but Charlie’s are up. However Jill claims “for fuck sake Sid my own mother had to die so I’m stuck on this one but I’ll lean towards Charlie

Robbie Mercer= Charlie walker, Jill was accounted for
Charlie walker attack= Jill Roberts
Kirby stabbing = Charlie walker,

Maureen Stevens and Phil Evan’s= Mickey altereri
( this one is pretty obvious because of the physical description of the killer. If the killer was Nancy loomis Maureen would have instant red flags if the character had boobs and the size of Mrs loomis.

Cici cooper= Mickey altereri
This one is heavily debated but I say Mickey for two main reasons

1. The phyiscallity and overall strength of the killer fits mickeys description the way he throws cici through the glass and lifts her up to throw her over the balcony , Mrs loomis wouldn’t have the gusto or determination for that kill.
   Mrs loomis does call Cici as Mickey would have told her the phone number

2. Cici is not apart of Mrs loomis plan so she wouldt even try and go for Cici because it would make her plan possibly fall apart.

Sidney’s first attack at the party= Mickey altereri with Mrs loomis doing the phone call.

If it was Mickey doing the phone call Derek would’ve heard that from the front porch and the way the killer says “ remember me” signifies that the caller and Sidney have history. So Mickey sneaks back into the party undedected says “ my pleasure and attacks Sidney, he also slashes Derek’s arm to throw suspicion on to him.

Sidney’s attack in the theatre. This is obviously Mickey as Mrs loomis wouldn’t want to get detected early on by Sidney( which furthermore makes me believe Mickey attacked Sid at the party. Also Mrs loomis wouldn’t have acsses to the school as easy as Mickey.

Randy’s kill= Mrs loomis, she literally admits it and she called Randy but intended the call for Gale

The threat to Sidney in the library= Mickey, obvious again as Mickey has access and Mrs loomis wouldn’t want to get caught early

Gale and Dewey’s attack= Mrs loomis, Mickey is else ware and gale and Dewey were apart of Mrs loomis plan and the antics of the killer fit Mrs loomis, we also hear Laurie metcalf’s grunt so all signs point to Mrs loomis

Officer Richard’s and Andrew’s= Mickey Altereri , this one is obvious the killers athleticism is through the roof and out of the two killers Mickey’s the one who would have that athleticism because he’s younger and we saw through the movie his good build and other kills where he shows off his strength and athleticism

Hallie McDaniels kill= Mickey altereri= after Hallie and Sidney leave the car Mickey slips through the window hides behind the barricades jumps out and stabs Hallie multiple times and then chases Sidney down

Derek Feldman kill= Mickey we see him do it

So I hear this debate a lot as people think that Nancy Loomis or Mickey altereri could’ve both been involved.
Yes I agree but I think the killer was Mickey. I’ll give three reasons for that l

1. Mrs Loomis plan: as we know Mrs loomis plan was to kill everyone who was responsible for the death of Billy , cici was not apart of the plan and she wouldn’t have the determination or gusto to perform the act.

2. The attack itself.
   So we know that Mickey is at the party before the scene ever begins. However as seen in the movie the delta lambda zeta is right across the street evinced by people seeing all the cops after cici is killed. Mickey has time to sneak away from the party and kill her the way the killer lifts cici the athleticism while chasing her. The way the killer throws cici through glass and over the balcony. Mrs loomis does the phone call.

3. Cici in class the day before says to Mickey “ you have a heart on for Cameron which might’ve angered Mickey and wanted to get revenge.

Again this is my personal headcannon but let me know what you think

1st reason: Stu is smarter than Billy. Now before all the Billy fan boys argue with me.
Stu planned out the murders of Casey and steve, planned to frame Neil presscott, called Sidney to prove Billy’s innocence, planned all of act 3 and manipulated Sidney at the door saying Randy was the killer.
2: Stu played it off better than Billy. Not once did I think he was Ghostface.

3. The 3rd act performance= Stu has some of if not the most iconic lines ever. Litterly carried Billy in the third act.

4. Was in the Ghostface costumes more times than Billy was and did most of the grunt and brute work while Billy was there to manipulate the situation.