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There's been a theory that's been floating around about Asat Pramad being an Imaginae (possibly made by Aha as a prank) for a while now, but I wanted to compile some unusual facts that lead me to believe that he is, in fact, an Imaginae created by Isee with Isee's memories, similar to how Himeko is an Imaginae created by Himeko. The difference is that Asat Pramad doesn't know what he is (as he confirms in the Improv Tour Trailer) while Himeko is aware that she is an Imaginae. He thinks he's Enroute/Isee.

Now, I have a couple of reasons, but there are some major sticking points. Isee is implied to be behind the Omen Vanguards as well, as they emerged when Isee quit the Astral Express. If you're keeping count, that means that Asat Pramad (if he's Isee) is walking 5 paths now: Elation, Traiblaze, Destruction, Finality, and Voracity (according to the description of those clowns he makes). That's almost the amount of paths the Trailblazer is currently involved with, and the highest amount of any character. It seems a bit odd.

Now, for the facts I have a couple that don't really align. First off: In the new Improv Tour where he kills Ryusuke, it shows the backstory of Enroute and Isee. But you never see him as having purple hands and never see his full face, only necks and outlines of a chin (implying he's either disguised or wasn't a hand-man yet). That is, aside from one moment where Isee looked through the telescope to witness Nanook's ascension. But then we have another moment that's very important in the Improv Tour showing the past winners of the Phantasmoon Games: It's Isee, standing before Nanook. Now I forget the exact readable, but it's said somewhere that Nanook's chestwound was inflicted by the Elation. Before the Asat reveal, I figured this scene showed Isee using the Elation to wound Nanook. This is even referenced in the Aeon gossip trailer when Aha stabs Nanook in the chest for his golden blood. And in the new trailer it shows the tiny dice that Isee had, and it shows a single drop of golden blood (Said to be Emanator Level as shown in Amphoreus), falling onto the dice.

I think Isee created Asat Pramad. To what end, I do not know, but I strongly suspect that Isee is a separate entity doing his own thing. And one of the examples I have of possible creations (possibly when he still went by Enroute as a fool) is in Dovebrook District: Umbralle. A very odd Imaginae who notably lacks a head, and instead he has a floating umbrella there. His suit is also quite striking and he doesn't know why he was created either. He's just very involved in legal battles between the Fools and Imaginae.

We'll have to see, given that new large form is no doubt Asat's big Lord Ravager boss form, but I strongly suspect that he's a creation of Isee's, rather than the real deal. And I doubt he knows it.

Hey all, just wanted to compile all the proof, and "denial" of the Generals of the Xianzhou being Emanators. Because this is, for some reason, the source of a lot of confusion in the fandom, when the lore has been extremely consistent.

First, let's start with the obvious: The Emanator Special. It explicitly dedicates a section to the Generals. The image is, unfortunately, the Lightning Lord, leading people to the false "Well the Lightning Lord is the real Emanator theory". But this is debunked as of the Wardance, when Feixiao's boss material confirms: The Spiritus are "Manifestations of Lan". Meaning: They're not separate entities, and not "people who became Emanators". Conclusion: The Generals are Emanators.

Second, we have Black Swan during 2.3, explicitly stating that the hypothetical of Jing Yuan fighting Dominicus Sunday, was a "Clash of Emanators". Now this was a dream sequence, but there is no "gotcha, this part was wrong so you should have known!" moment for this statement. For all intents and purposes, this was meant to be a plausible dream in a "what if" scenario that could have happened. And if it did, it would be a "clash of Emanators". Therefore: More proof.

Third: We got Yao guang in recent patches explaining several parts of being a General. Mainly that it requires the three ceremonies: the "Rainbow Ordainment," the "Reignbow's Gaze," and the "Bestowal of Spiritus". This confirms that Generals are, in fact, picked by Lan in some way, and that a mere gaze is not enough.

Fourth: This patch we have "Mister Meanie" AKA Asat Pramad explicitly stating that the Emanators in Planarcadia are "a tenth of a pebble" referring to Pearl, a "piece of wood" referring to Evanescia, and after a pause: "a Warlord" referring to Yao Guang. Yao Guang being the only one whose Emanator status is neither mocked nor simplified.

Now... I've gone 4 reasons without mentioning the Ratings Pistol. Even if its "regular ratings" are puns, the Emanator Ratings are consistent. In fact, it's so consistent that when The Herta launched in 3.0, her rating read "it cannot be rated!" but in 3.1 it was changed to "Rating Invalid". Meaning they're consistent about their Rating Pistol rankings when it comes to Invalid ratings. And so far, it's been: Confirmed Emanators, Generals of the Xianzhou (who were confirmed since the Emanator Special but people didn't quite get it), confirmed Emanators after the fact (March) and some speculative Emanators (Luocha, Sampo, each have their own separate proof).

So I challenge anyone to combat this stuff, and I'll use lore to debunk it. I'll respect "Well Jing Yuan didn't look at the camera and say 'I'm emanating so much hunt right now' posts", but I will be harsh on anyone still denying that they're Emanators when both in-game and outside the game Mihoyo has told us repeatedly that they're Emanators.