Is Siegfried Lore-Wise Nerfed?

Is Siegfried Lore-Wise Nerfed?

>At the end of his adventures, Siegfried obtained a cloak that hides his figure, obtained the demonic sword Balmung, and in the end, accomplished the feat of Dragon Slaying where he felled the Evil Dragon Fafnir. And, almost a large number of these extremely gruesome battles were events that went untold

In his profile, it is said that his track record in battlefield other than subduing the two kings, King Shilbung and King Nibelung, were not tolded. In the actual Nibelungenlied story, he did not just killed them both, but also defeated their 700 army, 12 Giants(?) or 12 Champion and defeated the dwarf Albreich to obtain Tarnkappe.

While it also said that he obtain the Tarnkappe, it didn't explicit that he obtain it from Albreich. Is it to adjust the lore that after Ragnarok finished, all of the myhtical being and mystery is gone from most of the European continent?

Also when wooing Kriemhild, Siegfried also participate in war, serving Gunther. His battlefiel trackrecord in the Nibelungenlied story is this :

Saxon–Danish War

  • Volunteered to defend Burgundy against ~60,000 enemy warriors: 20,000 Danes under Ludgast + 40,000 Saxons under Ludger.
  • Took only about 1,000 Burgundian knights + his 12 Netherland warriors into the campaign.
  • Personally rode alone into Saxony to scout an enemy army of 40,000+.
  • Instead of retreating, he was delighted by the size of the enemy force.
  • Challenged King Ludgast in single combat.
  • Defeated Ludgast with three deep wounds through his armor and captured him.
  • When 30 of Ludgast's warriors attempted to rescue their king, Siegfried killed 30, leaving only one alive to report the incident.
  • Returned to the main battle and personally led the attack against Ludger's army.
  • Pierced through the Saxon army three times, returning through the formation each time.
  • Killed large numbers of enemy warriors during these charges.
  • Fought King Ludger directly after reaching him in the middle of his army.
  • His blows were powerful enough to make Ludger's troops give way.
  • Despite Ludger striking hard enough to make Siegfried's horse reel, Siegfried continued fighting and defeated him.
  • Captured both enemy kings, Ludgast and Ludger.
  • The campaign produced 500+ unwounded noble captives and ~80 wounded, with the majority of the wounded specifically attributed to Siegfried's hand.

Overal, his parameter his lore-wise accurate. But I think his STR should be at A+, knowing he already deal with giants, dwarf, and large number of army before facing Fafnir. But for his personal skills, His Dragon Slayer skill is not very useful, as his sword already has anti-dragon trait. Other dragon slayer servant like Sigurd, Lancelot, and Artoria don't have this skill to but just relying on their anti-dragon weapon. He also lost his dragon core, so I think he's normal servant form should be like this :

  • Disengage A
  • Golden Rule B
  • Mana Burst A / Dragon-Kind Modification A
  • Valor B / Bravery B

What do you think?

Picture Source : https://www.zerochan.net/4565394#full

u/Ok_Evening_341 — 2 days ago

Sigurd Scalling in Knight of the Roundtables

From my previous post, I was asking about where to scale Sigurd.

Through in the discussion it strays a bit from the main topic, It pinch another interest and question.

While some of us (maybe) can agree that he's on the same tier as,

Charlemagne - Arthur - Yamato Takeru,

How does he scale to others that's said to comparable do Divine tier servants, such as :

Steroid Agravain = Lancelot >= Sun Gawain = Karna > Siegfried = Mordred <=? Tristan

Based on their performance so far, is it fair to conclude like the above? And where do you place Sigurd?

Let's keep it moderate and have a fun discussion. Thank you.

u/Ok_Evening_341 — 16 days ago

How Strong is Sigurd Objectively?

I've done my research but still not sure where to scale him.

I think he's around Arthur - Charlemagne - Yamato Takeru? Since they're just basicly Arthur from each region?

He's one of my favourite FGO characters that has a very cool design.

He's mentioned in Fate/Prototype.
His Germanic counterpart is in Fate/Apocrypha.
And his first appearence is in Lostbelt II.

As the beginning of your opinion, where do you scale him based on the servants from each series up there, followed by your further reasons?

Please keep it civilized.

Source : Zerochan & Romancia:Aurora

u/Ok_Evening_341 — 20 days ago

How Strong Is Sigurd Objectively?

I've done my research but still not sure where to scale him.

I think he's around Arthur - Charlemagne - Yamato Takeru? Since they're just basicly Arthur from each region?

He's one of my favourite FGO characters that has a very cool design.

He's mentioned in Fate/Prototype.
His Germanic counterpart is in Fate/Apocrypha.
And his first appearence is in Lostbelt II.

As the beginning of your opinion, where do you scale him based on the servants from each series, followed by your further reasons?

Please keep it civilized.

u/Ok_Evening_341 — 20 days ago
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Is Sigurd a Potentialman? Where does he scale?

Divine Realm :
Ozymandias, Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Sane Heracles/Alcides, Karna, Arjuna, Ashwattama, Achilles

Top Warrior :
Iskandar, Artoria/Arthur, Scathach, Sun Gawain, Saberlot

Top Servant :
Musashi, Tristan, Siegfried, CuChualin, Romulus, Charlemagne, Roland, Theseus

u/Ok_Evening_341 — 1 month ago

Strongest Europe Dragon Slayer vs Singularity 6 Knight of the Roundtable

Who will win based on this matchup:

Siegfried, Sigurd and Artoria has Dragon Kind Modification.

Round 1: Siegfried/Sigurd vs Artoria (Excalibur/Rhongomyniad).

Round 2: Siegfried/Sigurd vs Saber Lancelot

Round 3: Siegfried/Sigurd vs Sun Boost Gawain (No Limit)

Round 4: Siegfried/Sigurd vs Lancelot and Gawain

Round 5: Siegfried/Sigurd vs Mordred, Tristan and Agravain

Final Round : Sigurd & Siegfried vs All of them in Singularity 6

u/Ok_Evening_341 — 1 month ago
▲ 2 r/manhwarecommendations+1 crossposts

[Help] I forgot the title. Can someone help me?

Comedy romance manhwa about a college student mc that wants to get a girlfriend with the help of his experienced friends by coming to bar/blind dates?

I remember the comedy is very good because he failed many times because of funny reasons.

And the mc is a third year Architecture student?

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u/Ok_Evening_341 — 2 months ago