r/Gacha_Powerscaling

The King of Magecraft vs The King of Insanity

Who would win?

Round 1: Ainz and the rest vs Novum Chaldea

Round 2: All Guild members vs Novum Chaldea

Round 3: Prep time for both sides - All of YGGDRASIL vs Novum Chaldea + Solomon

I hear crazy statements like she's above everyone with the exception of types. Genshin is so neglected in this sub I should probs make genshin posts or something bet theres loads of dormant genshin fans. Still about BB though

Gilgamesh vs Round 1 Heracles

Hello people burning in the 36 degrees Celsius weather how are ? have you ever wondered how does Gilgamesh do against x servant well I have and in a lot of detail combined with the abundance of free time on my hands I thought why not make a huge series of posts going over how these different match ups go and who better to start such a series off with than tge king of heroes the strongest heroic spirit vs the hero he who needs no introduction whatsoever the man for whom nothing is impossible Heracles.

Since this will be my introductory post I will be establishing the rules of the match ups here and there are a few notably 7 they are :

1. I will only be covering servants that can actually put up a fight against the Gilgamesh I will be using I do not intend to spend hours finding servants that are mentioned and appear once to blute the series and Gilgamesh’s win tally.
2. I will be covering servants as they appear starting with archer moving to saber , lancer than assassin, berserker, caster , rider plus the extra classes . The exceptions because there must always be exceptions in this verse artoria will be left for last and divine spirits will be covered in there own video except again for some of them.

3.As I cover a servant I will cover all the versions of that servant as in the servant who I am first covering Alcides opens up the opportunity to cover all versions of Heracles including ( berserker , archer , megalos , ichor and others ) .

4.Grand servants will be reduced to there normal servant version since Gilgamesh vs the grands is another topic altogether. Although I will do a grand naked Gilgamesh vs each of the grands .

5.Servants will have there circumstances evened out as in there masters shall all be Tine for an infinite reserve of mana and normalised stats there fame shall be evened out in most cases but I will not be taking into account every servants level of fame in every feat they preform for my sanity the masters will also be taken to another world let’s say the reverse side of the world I did this because 1. So the servants won’t have to hold back and 2. So Gilgamesh does not cheese a lot of wins .

6.The battle is a head to head fight with both fighters well aware of each other sorry assassins, the battle will take place in a City Similar to snowfield they start 25m away from each other.

7. The version of Gilgamesh I will be using is archer with Tiné as a master in strange fake since his stats are normal and he is more serious I will be covering 3 levels of effort on his part 1. As series as he was against Alcides in there first battle 2. As series as he was against Alcides in there second battle and 3. Basically naked Gilgamesh he discards all arrogance and fights using sni ( sha naqpa imeru ) for this version I will say the servants he is facing will also get to be out of character and fight optimally.

8. Not a rule but a suggestion I do not know every bit on type moon lore and even the stuff I do know i may have forgotten the specifics or may have forgotten it altogether so if you see a mistake please correct me in the comments for any counter argument please be civil and site your source thank you i genuinely enjoy discussing with you all . Without further ado Gilgamesh vs Alcides.

Round 1.1 Gilgamesh vs Alcides with bazdallots mana supply and grail mud ( bazdallots mana supply is particularly potent we he will get his mana crystals as a Bonus ) : the first thing I will do is cover the servants in question’s stats and parameters

Alcides has A rank strength the main demonstration of this is him drawing back his bow and swatting away nps from the gate of Babylon it’s so impossible in fact i believe even Alcides demonstrates feats of strength greater than A rank but that’s beside the topic,

He has A rank agility wich is well demonstrated in him avoiding attacks from hippolyta and Gilgamesh.

He has B rank endurance as his durability is only tested against Jack from hell and he seems to be holding in pretty well I’m almost inclined to believe this stat is to low as well but one high rank np from Gilgamesh is enough to finish him off even after his buff so maybe I am wrong.

His luck is B rank this statistic is basically irrelevant I will not be accounting for a miracle here and even if I was Gilgamesh’s luck is better .

His mana is A rank again not relevant here as the match up does not care for his normal reserves .

And his np rank the one that matters the least is A++ .

All around his stats are ridiculous not only the perimeters but also his actual feats with them his skills are also top of the line although his mentality does slightly hold him back no were near as much as Gilgamesh’s but he could be oh so slightly stronger but I will get into that later .

There initial encounter can be summoned up as Alcides attacks Gilgamesh and tine and the auto defender defends tine but the second attack from Alcides manages to get through auto defender even if it was still hit by the lightning and Gilgamesh has to block it by putting on his armour and batting it away this is a very impressive feat for Alcides arrows .

The encounter continues now after hoping on vimana Gilgamesh and tine go to the canyon were Alcides is Gilgamesh launches a barrage of nps there rank is mid high rank at best Alcides swats them away easily very impressive again then he beckons Gilgamesh to attack again this time Gilgamesh launches thousands of weapons again not doing any damage Alcides says that one line all his glazers cling to “how weak “ and hippolyta intervenes as it is not her post yet and won’t be for a while for the purpose of this discussion she simply preforms far worse than the other two However more relevant to this discussion we see Gilgamesh is able to fully counter Alcides arrows with weapons from the gate of Babylon and vimanas auto defenders can effectively stop his arrows.
It is now time to go over Alcides 3 but more like 14 nps and how would they have effected the battle had he used them :

1.He had the pelt on all battle it is highly relevant to how he was able to last so long in both there fights .

2.He uses the bow but not the venom its relevance is smaller than you would think since Gilgamesh shoots down his arrows and has the anti venom .

3.It is a divine beast far faster than Heracles however there is a problem this beast belonged to Artimas and the Same way Cerberus lost a vast majority of its power because of the loss of hades divinity it is most likely the same happened to the hind so it wouldn’t have been very useful here .

4.Extra life considering it does not do much after he is revived if an opponent sustained no damage killing him the first time they won’t sustain damage doing it again.

5.Buffs his nine lives .

6.Tge birds really are not that strong they most likely would just die to np spam .

7.Same as the hide and Cerberus a divine beast that would lose much of its power.

8.These are the horses he uses to escape the shadow they are faster than he normally is but hippolyta a more skilled rider on a better horse was being pressured by Gilgamesh so again I feel there use would be minimal.

9.He uses it throughout most of the rhapsody of Demi gods 1 and his arrows are still being shot down by Gilgamesh’s gate assuming he can use its full power on his body than I’m willing to say it would be helpful throughout the battle but not game changing.

10.I guess he gets some sheep and cows i genuinely don’t know there has to be more to it .

11.He gets golden stamina replenishing apples although he is already hooked up to an infinite mana source.

12.Cerberus gets mauled by np spam if it was at full power we would have something there but it isn’t.

13. Nine lives he is probably using not true name release through the entire second encounter and judging by how the anime portrayed it he was in the first one two Gilgamesh can counter it with weapons from the gate or hell his own nine lives and hydra venom and judging by how he says it he can even open the gates and swallow nine lives into the gate so even if he does spam it if he wasn’t before the result will be similar.

14. Reincarnation Pandora is the hold reason this is a debate in the first place and are lack of a proper explanation of how it works is annoying but from what we have seen it has 2-4 conditions the more concrete ones are
    1.The np that Alcides wishes to steal must be active
    2.He must be touching it like he was with Jack from hell and gugalana .

15. He can only steal one np at a time and
    4.He can only steal trump cards this one is a possibility.
    The main argument to how be beats Gilgamesh is him stealing the gate but even when pushed to his limits in the second fight and telling his master he will have to go all out or he may die he still does not steal it there are 2 main arguments I see for why he didn’t steal it 1. He could only steal each treasure individually and as such stealing them and getting hit in the process would have been pointless the supporting evidence for this is each and every np in the gate counts as its own np with its own ability’s and argument two 2. He needs to touch the key babilu in order to steal the gate .

Final verdict: If Alcides used everything in his disposal in snow field he would lose to a relatively serious Gilgamesh maybe forcing him to use some divine weapons like harp , vijar, hippolytas axe , or even imbue his weapons with divinity with his own goddess of war .

Part 1.2 Gilgamesh vs Alcides from hell
He was packing him up without using any divine weapons or constructs without using his clairvoyance and Alcides was forced to use his martial arts plus pelt while buffed with from hell just to survive also it is revealed that in there first battle Gilgamesh was not using any really high rank nps and now he is using ones that can one shot Alcides the verdict is clear Gilgamesh was even prepared to counter his almost full power nine lives only missing the stables buff .

Part 1.3 Gilgamesh vs full bazdallot mana Alcides
In the gugalana fight Alcides demonstrates some frankly insane mana output making me wonder if alive Heracles had the highest mana output ever the insane feat in question is doing massive damage to and destroying gugalanas left leg with a long wind up nine lives this had literally everything he could put into it all of bazdallots remaining mana the goddess or war the hydra venom and unfortunately i believe Gilgamesh can still counter it but this time he will need ea and enuma elish this opens up the possibility of Alcides stealing EA however in order to do so he has to be touching it being generous and saying he only needs to touch the beam he will most likely lose 30 percent of his spirit origin like he did against gugalana and that will leave him vulnerable to be finished off by a extremely pissed of Gilgamesh.

Part 1.4 Gilgamesh vs Alcides with gugalana exoskeleton
Alcides wins ya no if it takes Gilgamesh and enkidu to beat the bull than a Alcides who actually has skill and is a far smaller target will be far more difficult for Gilgamesh to deal with than the bull or is gugalana an ox i think i once saw it called an ox . If you are looking for a Gilgamesh who can get the job done though i would say alive Gilgamesh or extra ccc as MMC Gilgamesh is needed .

So in total Gilgamesh gets 3 wins from different versions of Alcides i believe Alcides was designed as a rival to Gilgamesh however this does not reflect Gilgamesh’s dominance over him in there second battle and his ability to seemingly toy with Alcides while in the drivers seat .

P.S I hade the full post done but i forgot to save it so to avoid doing that again i will just post Alcides vs Gilgamesh while I get the rest of it do again. A majority of the information i used here is from fate strange fake mostly the novels , Gilgamesh having those divine weapons comes from the origin visual novel and other sources, Gilgamesh having nine lives comes from prisma illya , Gilgamesh having Heracles ace and the goddess of war is speculation derived from him having harp .

She's so cool. I dont even lewd her.

Anyway, what's all that severing zero thing and sword talk about. Apologies for the merlin slander I can't help myself its terminal. I am curious about musashi though.

Who wins ?

DISCLAIMER: I am not a Gacha Nerd. I'm just analyzing the Discussion

Scenario Note: After escaping Cloud Cuckoo Land, Emmet, Wyldstyle and Their Group went to Other Universes such as Gacha Games. However, Emmet accidentally triggered The Super Secret Police Invasion due to The Tracker from Bad Cop.

They are at all their Peak with all The Different Gacha universes that they will not be united are going to work together. No LEGO Dimensions Scaling on Super Secret Police or OP / God Entities from Fate/Grand Order

List:
Honkai Series [Impact 3rd and Star Rail]
Limbus Company
Arknights
Genshin Impact
Blue Archive
Girls' Frontline
Wuthering Waves
Fate/Grand Order
Hololive Dreams
Azur Lane

Super Secret Police would have:
Bad Cop
Robo SWATs
Sharks and Laser Sharks
Robo Crocodiles
4x4 SWAT Cars
Police Cars
Enforcers [I see that on 30282]
Turrets [LEGO Movie Video Game]
Jetpacks [LEGO Movie Video Game that is on The Sheriff Not A Robot Boss Fight]
Motorcycles
Wagon Cannons
Police Horses
Copper Choppers
Super Secret Police Dropships
Micro Managers
Octan Planes
T.A.K.O.S. (Tentacle Arm Kragle Outside Sprayers)

Robo SWATs woud have:
Laser Rifles
Rocket Launchers [LEGO Movie Video Game]
Batons [LEGO Movie Video Game]
Scimitars [Seen attempting to Kill Wyldstyle in Rescuing Emmet from The Melting Room]
Black Ray Guns [seen in LEGO Movie Video Game where Robo SWATs are Using Jetpacks and Ray Guns]
Stud Shooter Blasters
Dynamites
Revolvers and Muskets [seen in Deputrons]
Laser Miniguns
Red Laser Pointer Cannons
Hand-to-Hand Combat [seen in LEGO Movie Video Games (1 and 2)]

Robo SWAT Variants would have:
NVG Robo SWATs
Beret Robo SWATs
Helmet Robo SWATs
Skeletrons
Deputrons
Robo Pilots
Robo Feds

Well, so, That's All. Here's the Important Note:
For anyone who Doesn't know who Are The Super Secret Police or Bad Cop, They are an Organization and Bad Cop is The Antagonist from The LEGO Movie

IMPORTANT:
Could anyone stop making my post like Its some ghost or unseen!? No one is commenting in here.

Something something albion, something something true dragon.

1st Scenario: Sargeras uses his power and the Burning Legion to slowly weaken, corrupt, and put agents on Earth. They have the same powers as in their home universe, including Argus resurecting the demons.

2nd Scenario: Sargeras appears besides Earth and simply goes berserker.

The fight takes place on a Fate timeline, but Arcueid can be summoned as a servant.

ORT jungle was turned into a raid and he is figthing adventurers who want him as a mount, so he cant help Earth. Crimson Moon didnt want beff so they ran way.

For the ones not familiar with Warcraft. Sargeras is/was/may be the big bad of Warcraft universe, he is the strongest of The Titans who are basically Wacraft version of Ultimate Ones, basically they are divine planets who eventually become cosmic giants (for the lact of a better term). Sargeras went mad because The Void (the other big bad of Warcraft) was atempting to consume creation, so he decided to rather burn the universe and start anew from the ashes.

His main feats are being larger than Earth (he is a planet himself), being the strongest "warlock" of Warcraft, having an inmortal army of millions of demons who he can summon, and uses fel as his main power, a kind of magic that destroys or corrupts almost anything it touched.

Bear Bailey (Obsession) vs Arlecchino (Genshin Impact)

I just read through this section of Ordeal Call III. Let's say by some miracle that Gerard was summoned to stop King Protea in place of Proalter; would he be able to get the job done?

I feel like a lot of misinformation gets spread around this guy going both ways. So now that the hsr collab has kinda bridged some gaps, how does he genuinely do in hsr.

Or, more simply, what are his abilities and where does he scale to. Don't include extra, though, since that was a very specific circumstance, I think.

Sorry Corein (Put up quite a fight to be fair)