How and When has Azriel suffered in recent (past 400 at least) years?

I often see Elriels claiming Azriel deserves to be happy cause he suffered enough. Even tho i do agree that i would love for him to find a mate, when has he suffered in recent years?

Sure, he was abused as a child. But then got rescued and lived in luxury with his found brothers ever since. All his recent suffering is self imposed to me, like obsessing over the same woman for 500 years even tho it was clear she didn’t reciprocate. And this is a whole another thing imo cause that’s not normal for me.

So how has he “suffered enough”? Especially compared to other character and his ship rival Lucien? Has Azriel suffered more than Lucien? If so, how?

It’s not specifically anti one ship even tho I personally don’t like elriel. It’s just curiosity of how elriels can say azriel deserves elain cause he suffered enough while also saying lucien’s suffering don’t matter and elain is not a price.

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u/Ok_Many4671 — 5 days ago

Shipping ruined the books and sjm knows it

I’m 100% sure the delay in ANYTHING about the books is intentional, everyone is scared. The shipping is out of hand and people are genuinely mean and hateful. It’s not just harmless shipping anymore, and more times than not it’s never about celebrating your ship but putting down the others and insult anyone who disagrees.

I said this months ago but now it’s unbearable, it’s just insults and snarky comments.

Sjm and publishers know that half the people will be disappointed either way. I’m sure they won’t reveal anything until like few days before release, the situation is that bad imo. And i don’t think “shippers aren’t the majority” holds up anymore

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u/Ok_Many4671 — 1 month ago

Lately i’ve been seeing so many anti Lucien posts and my question is simple, HOW? I get not liking him as Elain’s mate for your ship, that’s valid. But hating him as a character almost feels illegal? He has done nothing but trying to be helpful and lost everything in doing so.

And no, i don’t think he abandoned Feyre or refused to help her. He did his best. He did try to talk to Tamlin and make him see reason. They were all deeply traumatized.

He eventually even went againt his only friend and high lord, in a court he was a guest in. Idk why anyone expected him to immediately drop Tamlin, the only person that helped him whe his father was trying to kill him, for a girl he met 3 minutes ago and killed one of his friends???

He is my favorite character. He is so complex and has so much potential. Plus he is so sweet and charming. Back off him please lol

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u/Ok_Many4671 — 2 months ago