u/Ok_Theory_1323

"You have plenty of reason to believe, you just don't want it to be true" is the ultimate projection.

If we're accusing believers or non-believers of religious claims to be biased toward what they want to be true, how do theists have any leg to stand on? Theists believe they will live in infinite bliss for eternity after death. Atheists generally think their existence ends at death.

What possible motivation would anyone have to want the latter instead of the former? Meanwhile, people who are scared of the idea of non-existence have every reason to want to grab at any flimsy, illogical reason to believe in magic gods and afterlives to ease their fears.

"There's plenty of evidence, you just don't want to believe" is simply what theists came up with to justify their god sending people to Hell for not believing, so that they don't have to consider their god obviously evil for doing so; i.e., "Atheists just didn't want to believe, even though they had enough evidence to, so it's their own fault."

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u/Ok_Theory_1323 — 12 days ago

If Heaven is just sitting around staring at God forever and you're perfectly blissfully happy forever, then there is no purpose for Earthly lives first.

Every description of the Christian heaven I've seen, when asked how we can be happy knowing friends and family of ours who were disbelievers are burning in Hell, or asked about what we even do in Heaven if we have no earthly bodies thus don't need to eat, drink, sleep, have any need for bodies (so there's no playing games/sports/fishing/hiking/anything we did on Earth), etc., it's sort of just "You sit there glorifying God forever and are perfectly content."

That does not resemble any Earthly life whatsoever. If that is what we are in Heaven, then it is no longer "us" from Earth. We are completely different beings having nothing to do with our Earthly life.

For example, if your life on Earth was a stay-at-home mother of five and your entire life on Earth revolved around them from the first child's birth through all of their life milestones until you died, and those 5 kids were non-believers and are in Hell as you are in Heaven, but you just don't give a sht because God is so glorious, what does it even mean to say that it's "you" anymore, when nothing you did on Earth makes any difference to who you are in Heaven, apart from simply being there?

And if everything you did on Earth just goes away and is no longer relevant in heaven, then why not just let everyone in Heaven, regardless of non-belief or evil acts, etc., since they will all end up being these lobotomized God-glorifiers forever as nothing they did or didn't do on Earth makes any difference to who they now are in Heaven?

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u/Ok_Theory_1323 — 12 days ago