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I’m on the $14.99/month Mistral Pro plan.

In admin.mistral.ai/subscription, I currently see:

• API usage — “Available via the API and Studio”: $12.08 / $30
• Vibe Code usage — “Vibe Code includes extra monthly usage”: $10.26 / $300

This is the first time I’ve noticed the $300 figure, and I never changed anything to enable it.

My current settings are:

• Pay-as-you-go spending limit: $30
• Pay-as-you-go for Vibe Code: OFF

Which BTW needs an explanation. PAYG OFF cannot coexist with PAYG LIMIT == 30 without additional explanation!!! Add (i) hover tooltip info everywhere please. 

What exactly does the $300/month Vibe Code allowance mean?

Is it configurable anywhere? Does it correspond to API-equivalent pricing, or is $300 just some internal usage accounting unit? 

The billing/usage/subscription pages are hard to understand because several different concepts are presented in very similar ways.

Meter	Current value
API / Studio usage	$12.08 / $30
Vibe Code usage	$10.26 / $300
PAYG spending limit	$30
Vibe PAYG	Disabled 🤡
Subscription	$14.99/month

I vaguely understand the current setup as follows:

• the subscription includes some amount of usage,
• PAYG only matters once included usage is exceeded, BUT not if it's "API PAYG"? Subscription PAYG is not really PAYG, by definition it's a subscription. Up to a threshold. Which you can define to be such that it generates additional cost. But it's not API. But you also get an API key just with the subscription. 
• my PAYG spending limit is $30 (included in the subscription)
• If I increase the limit to >30, will this make Vibe PAYG automatically enabled?
• and because Vibe PAYG is disabled, Vibe should stop once its included quota is exhausted rather than charging me.

The UI does not make any of this sufficiently explicit.

For example, next to:

>

there should be an (i) tooltip explaining something like "Monthly credits allowance: 30 (Used: 12.08). Current limit: 30. This means you won't be charged because 30 credits are included in your subscription for free (i.e. for the cost of the subscription)."

Or

"Monthly credits allowance: 30 (Used: 12.08). Current limit: 37. You will be charged at most $7 if you exceed the included allowance of 30."

Like, why not make things this explicit? What is preventing you from just explaining and reassuring the users?

The subscription, usage, limits, credits, API, PAYG concepts and numerical values should be all unified in one page. And each number should be crystal clear:

• what it means
• how it is configured (if applicable)
• whether it is real money, or an included allowance expressed as a $ amount, but not actually chargeable

I am postponing upgrading to expensive subscriptions for hundreds of $ in the hopes of seeing an improvement in the Mistral offering.

It would be great if Mistral dropped something competitive soon.

OpenAI is retiring ChatGPT Atlas and telling users to use the browser inside the ChatGPT app or the Chrome extension instead.

Chrome extension gives you the sidebar, but it can only open a Work task rather than a normal chat. Therefore this uses your Work/Codex credits.

ChatGPT Desktop is not even a browser, and yet they have the audacity to say "Atlas is being retired, go on, use the browser inside ChatGPT/Codex app". Codex browser is for developing and testing applications. It has none of the features of Atlas, Chrome or Safari.

So much noise and hype, especially about the "170 languages" for a not-so-great results.

I tested it in the Mistral Vibe platform, under the Document AI tab, using a printed body-composition receipt from my gym. I print and scan one of these every time I go. I already have a local, traditional OCR pipeline for processing them, but it is not completely reliable, so I wanted to see whether the new Mistral OCR model could do better. It does not.

Mistral has always highlighted how multi language is one of their strong points, and OCR 4 announcement does not fail to mention the 170 languages as "a gap they found in existing solutions". I thought Japanese would be handled reasonably well.

Unfortunately, Mistral OCR seems to perform worse than the standard OCR built into macOS and iOS. I use Apple’s OCR by cropping and enlarging the relevant area first, a technique Mistral and others _can_ and _do_ use (don't know about Mistral, if you don't, maybe try it?); I remember OpenAI ChatGPT O3 do this on the fly (crop and resize scans to read a specific hard to read parts) and successfully transcribe stuff this way more than a year ago.

Concretely, here are examples where Mistral fails.

体組成計 gets transcribed as 依頼防衛.

Tried again and the result is different every time: 依頼防衛, 依託別計, 依頼内容.

On my Mac, doing zoom + screenshot + "copy text" gives the correct result: 体組成計

体組成計

Another example (more difficult):

Truth: 体脂肪標準範囲
Apple: 体脂肪標準範匪 (wrong)
Mistral: 依頼内容の確認結果 (more wrong)

体脂肪標準範囲

Numbers are all transcribed correctly, but seeing these basic errors makes me not trust the model. Is it the white on black that threw it off?

I saw someone from Mistral posted that you are monitoring this sub.

Could you please investigate the issue where Vibe gives random language gibberish?

Examples:

bash کیوان{"command": "ls -la"}

bash습니까{"command": "ls -la"}

While everyone seems to be enjoying feline related banter, Mistral can't reliably edit markdown files in a repo that contains two .md files.

This is the tree without any exclusion rules:

.
├── file1.md <- 175 lines
└── file2.md <- 660 lines
1 directory, 2 files

Prompt: apply the improvements described below to file2.md

Mistral:

> Thought

> Failed to edit file2.md

Cool cool cool cool cool

go ahead haters, downvote me. I'm right.

Teams at the top AI companies including Mistral (according to CEO himself at the assemblee) use AI coding for 100% of their work.

So Mistral is doomed to fail because, put simply,

an inferior AI improving itself will mathematically stay inferior to the superior AI improving itself.

The difference in capability will just keep getting more and more wide.

I have both Codex and Vibe subscriptions and just worked with Vibe for 3 hours because I ran out of Codex usage. And I think I’m going to go for a walk and just wait for my Codex reset. I still have more than 90% of my monthly Vibe usage left but I don’t even want it.

I’ll keep coming back to Vibe every once in a while and keep paying as a donation to the “great European AI champion” but I’m hopeless.